Jessica Coates | 1 Sep 2010 01:35
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Fwd: P2PU Copyright Next Cycle? Are you willing and able?

Hi all - for any educators out there, or people who just want to know a bit more about copyright - a new cycle of P2P University's Copyright 4 Educators course is about to be run.

The Australian arm is being run by myself and Delia Browne - but there are also streams for the US, South Africa and the UK.

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Subject: P2PU Copyright Next Cycle? Are you willing and able?



Hi All,

 

P2PU (www.p2pu.org) is just about to start its next Copyright 4 Educators course! So if you missed out the first time round or know someone who would love to enrol, now is your chance.

 

What is P2PU?

 

P2PU is a volunteer open education project being incubated by the University of California (Irvine) with lots of support from Shuttleworth Foundation, Hewlett Foundation, CC Learn, Mozilla Foundation and others.

 

Delia Browne, National Copyright Director (National Copyright Unit) of the Copyright Advisory Groups (Schools and TAFEs), is the course organiser and one of P2PU co founders of the volunteer open education project.

 

What is Copyright 4 Educators?

 

‘Copyright 4 Educators’ is a free online course for educators who want to learn about copyright, open content material and licensing. It is open to all educators around the world. The course material is learnt around practical case studies faced by teachers when using copyright material in their day to day teaching and educational instruction.

 

The Copyright 4 Educators course is not taught, it is facilitated by the course leaders. The course is student participation focused. Students are divided into small groups who organise their online communications/discussions (via email, Google docs, Skype, tokbox etc) and jointly submits answers to the case scenarios and assignments.

 

The leaders basically review and mark the student group work (pass/fail) that has been posted to the blog and provide comments where they have gone wrong.  As stated above, the leaders act as facilitators rather than traditional teachers.

 

The first Copyright 4 Educators course was held earlier this year and was a great success.

 

Copyright 4 Educators – Next Cycle

 

The next Copyright 4 Educators course is divided into two 6 week parts comprising of different scenarios and assignments.  Each group will have 2 weeks to complete each case scenario and the last assignment.

 

Part 1 of the course must be completed before you can enrol into Part 2.

 

Course Breakdown:

 

Part 1 – Copyright Basics

 

1.       Orientation commences 17th September  

Students introduce themselves to each other and acquaint themselves with the website and ICT Tools needed to collaborate and work together.

 

2.       Course commences 24 September

Student Groups start working on the first group assignment.

 

3.       The Student Groups are required to submit three group assignments based on case scenarios:

·         Case Scenario 1- due 8 October

·         Case Scenario 2- due 22 October

·         Case Scenario 3- due 5 November

 

 

BIG BREAK XMAS and NEW YEAR BREAK

 

Part 2  Creative Commons and Practical Copyright Issues for Educators

 

1.       Commences 15 January 2011 - no orientation week.
 

2.       Assignments Due

Case Scenario 4 Due 29 January

Case Scenario 5 due 11 February

Further information on Copyright 4 Educators

 

There is further information on the P2PU website http://p2pu.org in the 'Copyright 4 Educators' section where you can look at the Course Outline, the Assignments and the Readings. There is also more information on how groups meet and communicate.

 

Please feel free to browse and/or enrol in the other courses on offer.

 

What do I need to do to enrol in Copyright 4 Educators?

You will need enrol at http://www.p2pu.org/node/5648/keypage.

 

There is a self assessment questionnaire as part of the enrolment application.

 

Please forward this email on to other educators such as Teachers, Librarians and Curriculum and E learning areas who may be interested in learning about copyright and copyright compliance strategies.

 

Thank you.

 

Regards,

 

Sylvie Saab

National Copyright Officer, National Copyright Unit

Ministerial Council on Education, Early Childhood Development

and Youth Affairs (MCEECDYA)

Level 5, 35 Bridge Street, Sydney NSW 2000

 

t: +61 (0)2 9561 8730   f: +61 (0)2 9561 1499

e: sylvie.saab-kfi53iJGRFm7NGdpmJTKYQ@public.gmane.org

 

 

 

 

 


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Shlomi Fish | 2 Sep 2010 01:52
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Re: How to Promote Your Creative Commons Works?

Hi drew,

thanks for your E-mail.

On Tuesday 31 August 2010 17:04:50 drew Roberts wrote:
> On Monday 30 August 2010 16:28:57 Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > 
> > I have written many works and published them on my web-site :
> > 
> > http://www.shlomifish.org/
> > 
> > most of my fiction (novellas, aphorisms, humorous bits, screenplays,
> > collections of factoids, etc.) is available under CC-by-sa, most of my
> > essays are available under CC-by, and I also have some technical stuff
> > (my Perl for Newbies presentations for example) under the Public Domain.
> > 
> > I have other assets such as photos on Flickr (
> > http://www.flickr.com/photos/shlomif/ - mostly under the Public Domain)
> > and a single YouTube screencast (
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHQ2bWGeYMg ), and stuff.
> > 
> > Now I've been feeling that my works are of high quality and yet mostly
> > haven't received the proper amount of recongition. So I'm asking here: do
> > you have any suggestion on how to promote one's online works?
> 
> I am trying to get something going for Free Music. See here for instance:
> 
> http://freemusicpush.blogspot.com/
> 

This appears to be a blog with some links.

> Perhaps these efforts can be broadened.
> 
> I have also recently started this:
> 
> Free Music For Free (copyleft) Movies
> http://kompoz.com/site/music4freemovies
> 
> Where I am hoping to foster the creation of Free Music for use in Free
> Movies / Videos and such. Some existing but importantly, some specifically
> written for the Movies.
> 
> I think it behooves those of us making Free works to try and support and
> *importantly* promote each other whenever we can.
> 
> I have several Nanowrimo novels licenses BY-SA online myself, start here:
> http://tingsnovelz.blogspot.com/

Maybe I'll take a look.

> 
> > Some ideas I had:
> > 
> > 1. I once wanted to create a Freshmeat.net-like site (combining a
> > directory and a newswire) for fiction and other writings:
> > 
> > http://www.advogato.org/article/529.html
> > 
> > I'm not aware of such a site yet, but I suppose I can volunteer to set
> > one up (being a capable programmer and all.)
> > 
> > 2. Naturally, one can publicise the resources on Twitter, Facebook,
> > StumbleUpon, Delicioius, etc. (without spamming).
> > 
> > 3. Perhaps one can use blog search engines to search for recent posts
> > regarding some of the topics of one's essays and refer there as comments.
> > 
> > 4. Posts to relevant Internet forums (either as top-level posts, or as
> > answer to questions: web-forums, mailing lists, Usenet (in case it's
> > still relevant), etc.
> > 
> > 5. Doing Whitehat Search Engine Optimisation. I used to subscribe to the
> > SEOmoz blog but was overwhelmed with the amount of text posted there and
> > the concentration on SEO minutae. I like this blog -
> > http://www.jenniferslegg.com/ , but I feel it is usually stating the
> > obvious and does not go deep enough (and it seems to have been neglected
> > recently).
> > 
> > 6. Part of my problem may be that I'm still blogging on LiveJournal.com
> > and other hosted services. I'd like to move my blog to a dedicated
> > server with my own engine, but since I'm unhappy with WordPress and
> > other blog engines, then another guy and I started writing our own blog
> > engine and we didn't make a lot of progress lately. Yak shaving -
> > http://szabgab.com/blog/2008/10/1224765950.html .
> > 
> > -------------
> > 
> > I'm open for more suggestions in case you have any or for comments about
> > these ones. I believe this question will interest other people who create
> > content, and hope it's not off-topic here. If it is, let me know and
> > we'll kill this thread.
> 
> I would love to take this up further with you or anyone else interested in
> the Free side of things and promoting the same. If it needs to go
> elsewhere, we can take it somewhere else.

OK, which ideas do you have? Is there anyway you can contribute? I guess that 
I (and you) are not alone in this.

Regards,

	Shlomi Fish

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drew Roberts | 2 Sep 2010 03:42

Re: How to Promote Your Creative Commons Works?

On Wednesday 01 September 2010 19:52:37 Shlomi Fish wrote:
> Hi drew,
>
> thanks for your E-mail.

Sure thing.
>
> On Tuesday 31 August 2010 17:04:50 drew Roberts wrote:
> > On Monday 30 August 2010 16:28:57 Shlomi Fish wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I have written many works and published them on my web-site :
> > >
> > > http://www.shlomifish.org/
> > >
> > > most of my fiction (novellas, aphorisms, humorous bits, screenplays,
> > > collections of factoids, etc.) is available under CC-by-sa, most of my
> > > essays are available under CC-by, and I also have some technical stuff
> > > (my Perl for Newbies presentations for example) under the Public
> > > Domain.
> > >
> > > I have other assets such as photos on Flickr (
> > > http://www.flickr.com/photos/shlomif/ - mostly under the Public Domain)
> > > and a single YouTube screencast (
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHQ2bWGeYMg ), and stuff.
> > >
> > > Now I've been feeling that my works are of high quality and yet mostly
> > > haven't received the proper amount of recongition. So I'm asking here:
> > > do you have any suggestion on how to promote one's online works?
> >
> > I am trying to get something going for Free Music. See here for instance:
> >
> > http://freemusicpush.blogspot.com/
>
> This appears to be a blog with some links.

It is. It goes along with and links to the FreeMusicPush group and was started 
with the idea of figuring out how to push Free music and then doing so.

Anyone interested in making and promoting Free Music is invited to join and to 
their bit. Take the initiative and share your efforts with other. What works 
where you are and what doesn't?
>
> > Perhaps these efforts can be broadened.
> >
> > I have also recently started this:
> >
> > Free Music For Free (copyleft) Movies
> > http://kompoz.com/site/music4freemovies
> >
> > Where I am hoping to foster the creation of Free Music for use in Free
> > Movies / Videos and such. Some existing but importantly, some
> > specifically written for the Movies.
> >
> > I think it behooves those of us making Free works to try and support and
> > *importantly* promote each other whenever we can.
> >
> > I have several Nanowrimo novels licenses BY-SA online myself, start here:
> > http://tingsnovelz.blogspot.com/
>
> Maybe I'll take a look.

Sure, no pressure though. But if you can use any of my BY-SA stuff in you own, 
that would be cool. Are you looking to have your fiction re-used in such 
ways?
>
> > > Some ideas I had:
> > >
> > > 1. I once wanted to create a Freshmeat.net-like site (combining a
> > > directory and a newswire) for fiction and other writings:
> > >
> > > http://www.advogato.org/article/529.html
> > >
> > > I'm not aware of such a site yet, but I suppose I can volunteer to set
> > > one up (being a capable programmer and all.)
> > >
> > > 2. Naturally, one can publicise the resources on Twitter, Facebook,
> > > StumbleUpon, Delicioius, etc. (without spamming).
> > >
> > > 3. Perhaps one can use blog search engines to search for recent posts
> > > regarding some of the topics of one's essays and refer there as
> > > comments.
> > >
> > > 4. Posts to relevant Internet forums (either as top-level posts, or as
> > > answer to questions: web-forums, mailing lists, Usenet (in case it's
> > > still relevant), etc.
> > >
> > > 5. Doing Whitehat Search Engine Optimisation. I used to subscribe to
> > > the SEOmoz blog but was overwhelmed with the amount of text posted
> > > there and the concentration on SEO minutae. I like this blog -
> > > http://www.jenniferslegg.com/ , but I feel it is usually stating the
> > > obvious and does not go deep enough (and it seems to have been
> > > neglected recently).
> > >
> > > 6. Part of my problem may be that I'm still blogging on LiveJournal.com
> > > and other hosted services. I'd like to move my blog to a dedicated
> > > server with my own engine, but since I'm unhappy with WordPress and
> > > other blog engines, then another guy and I started writing our own blog
> > > engine and we didn't make a lot of progress lately. Yak shaving -
> > > http://szabgab.com/blog/2008/10/1224765950.html .
> > >
> > > -------------
> > >
> > > I'm open for more suggestions in case you have any or for comments
> > > about these ones. I believe this question will interest other people
> > > who create content, and hope it's not off-topic here. If it is, let me
> > > know and we'll kill this thread.
> >
> > I would love to take this up further with you or anyone else interested
> > in the Free side of things and promoting the same. If it needs to go
> > elsewhere, we can take it somewhere else.
>
> OK, which ideas do you have? Is there anyway you can contribute? I guess
> that I (and you) are not alone in this.

Well, I have begun these two pages at Packet In:

http://packet-in.org/wiki/index.php?title=Income
http://packet-in.org/wiki/index.php?title=Promotion

I keep thinking of running various contests (putting up my own cash for the 
prize money) where the rules would require BY-SA licenses on all entries.

I also think it might be important for Free Artists to make some binding 
commitment to Freedom so that those fans thinking of investing their time in 
promoting their stuff will feel comfortable doing so. So they wont worry that 
we are just in it until they do the work to push us up and then we drop the 
Free and they feel burned. Thoughts on this?
>
> Regards,
>
> 	Shlomi Fish

all the best,

drew
Paul Houle | 2 Sep 2010 16:44
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Re: How to Promote Your Creative Commons Works?

  On 9/1/2010 7:52 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote:
>>> 5. Doing Whitehat Search Engine Optimisation. I used to subscribe to the
>>> SEOmoz blog but was overwhelmed with the amount of text posted there and
>>> the concentration on SEO minutae. I like this blog -
>>> http://www.jenniferslegg.com/ , but I feel it is usually stating the
>>> obvious and does not go deep enough (and it seems to have been neglected
>>> recently).
>>>

     I can't reveal my sources,  but I can say that one of the great 
b...b...grey hat SEO masterminds of our time recently struck out in an 
attempt to build a music site about obscure bands that nobody has ever 
heard of.

     There are a number of technical,  legal and moral mistakes he may 
have made,  but I think ultimately trying to SEO for a band nobody has 
heard of is like pushing on a string.  People are searching for "Hootie 
and the Blowfish" and they're not searching for,  say,  "Red Red 
Groovy".  It would be easy to rank well for the names of obscure bands 
and their albums,  but it doesn't get you traffic unless people know 
they exist and they're searching for them.

     SEO-wise,  you might get some traffic for terms like "creative 
commons music" or something focused on genre or some quality of the 
music ("hip hop music" comes to mind,  but I think that would be hard.)  
The promotional problem you're looking at,  however,  would be better 
addressed by "public relations" strategies and through social media -- 
I'll warn you,  however,  that successful social media campaigns are 20x 
as much work as you probably think and that something "cool" enough to 
go viral has be be VERY cool...  In the eyes of the audience,  not in 
your eyes.

     It's easy for people to blame the troubles of the music industry on 
the stupidity of music executives,  and it's not hard to find examples 
of it...  But in truth,  it's very,  very difficult to promote new 
music.  The basic issue is that people find it actively painful to 
listen to new music:  most people like 5% of what they hear...  In a 
relatively passive medium,  like radio (or automated streaming),  people 
often change the channel after hearing just a few riffs of something 
they don't like.  In the case of an active medium,  say people picking 
out tracks on the web,  they just won't work up the motivation to do it.

     In the meantime,  new music competes with an extensive back 
catalog.  Many people from 15 to 65 listen exclusively to "Classic 
Rock",  a genre of music from 1968-1989 or so that has a small canon of 
about 1000 songs.  It's so overplayed that it makes me gag,  but each 
and every song in that collection deserves to be there.

     Anyhow,  the best formula I've seen is radio or streaming that 
mixes a handful of "oldies" that everybody has heard, (maybe 5-10%),  a 
handful of some recent things that fit in (10-20%) and fills up the bulk 
with "oldies" that are good but not overplayed.  Personally,  I crave 
variety,  but people need satisfaction and enjoy familiarity.

     An all-CC format has the problem that you don't have the back 
catalog to draw from.

>>> 6. Part of my problem may be that I'm still blogging on LiveJournal.com
>>> and other hosted services. I'd like to move my blog to a dedicated
>>> server with my own engine, but since I'm unhappy with WordPress and
>>> other blog engines, then another guy and I started writing our own blog
>>> engine and we didn't make a lot of progress lately. Yak shaving -
>>> http://szabgab.com/blog/2008/10/1224765950.html .
>>>

     I wouldn't knock Livejournal.  It might not be the strongest 
blogging platform,  but it has a "firehose" that feeds results to search 
engines and thus has fantastic indexation,  at least in the short term 
-- Livejournal posts often end up in Google search results in ~minutes~.

     Overall,  writing your own blog platform is a mistake.  It's hard 
to beat Wordpress,  particularly if you don't want your comments overrun 
by black hat spammers.  A lot of people I know have gotten into Drupal 
-- I've seen it used as a CMS by organizations between 1 and 500 
employees...  Like any packaged software you're going to find things to 
hate about it,  but it's amazing how quickly you can get something "good 
enough" in Drupal.
Kat Walsh | 2 Sep 2010 23:13

Credits/license splash for CC video containing ARR music?

A friend is making a video licensed under CC-BY-NC-SA, but using
excerpts from an ARR song (used by permission--no dice on getting a CC
release) for title screens.

He wants to acknowledge the permission for the music and note that it
does not share the license of the rest of the work; he's planning to
list the acknowledgement they prefer in the credits, and end with a
splash screen showing the CC license. Should he add an additional note
of some sort on the splash screen ("except as noted" or something), or
is it sufficient to note it only in the credits?

Thanks,
Kat

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drew Roberts | 3 Sep 2010 12:39

Re: Credits/license splash for CC video containing ARR music?

On Thursday 02 September 2010 17:13:11 Kat Walsh wrote:
> A friend is making a video licensed under CC-BY-NC-SA, but using
> excerpts from an ARR song (used by permission--no dice on getting a CC
> release) for title screens.

IIRC, Sita Sings The Blues by Nina Paley is a BY-SA licensed animated movie 
that incorporates ARR music. If so, how they handled it might be helpful.

There is some interesting stuff in the faq under Copyright & distribution:

http://www.sitasingstheblues.com/faq.html
>
> He wants to acknowledge the permission for the music and note that it
> does not share the license of the rest of the work; he's planning to
> list the acknowledgement they prefer in the credits, and end with a
> splash screen showing the CC license. Should he add an additional note
> of some sort on the splash screen ("except as noted" or something), or
> is it sufficient to note it only in the credits?
>
> Thanks,
> Kat

all the best,

drew
Shlomi Fish | 4 Sep 2010 23:02
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Re: How to Promote Your Creative Commons Works?

On Thursday 02 September 2010 17:44:33 Paul Houle wrote:
>   On 9/1/2010 7:52 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> >>> 5. Doing Whitehat Search Engine Optimisation. I used to subscribe to
> >>> the SEOmoz blog but was overwhelmed with the amount of text posted
> >>> there and the concentration on SEO minutae. I like this blog -
> >>> http://www.jenniferslegg.com/ , but I feel it is usually stating the
> >>> obvious and does not go deep enough (and it seems to have been
> >>> neglected recently).
> 
>      I can't reveal my sources,  but I can say that one of the great
> b...b...grey hat SEO masterminds of our time recently struck out in an
> attempt to build a music site about obscure bands that nobody has ever
> heard of.
> 
>      There are a number of technical,  legal and moral mistakes he may
> have made,  but I think ultimately trying to SEO for a band nobody has
> heard of is like pushing on a string.  People are searching for "Hootie
> and the Blowfish" and they're not searching for,  say,  "Red Red
> Groovy".  It would be easy to rank well for the names of obscure bands
> and their albums,  but it doesn't get you traffic unless people know
> they exist and they're searching for them.
> 
>      SEO-wise,  you might get some traffic for terms like "creative
> commons music" or something focused on genre or some quality of the
> music ("hip hop music" comes to mind,  but I think that would be hard.)
> The promotional problem you're looking at,  however,  would be better
> addressed by "public relations" strategies and through social media --
> I'll warn you,  however,  that successful social media campaigns are 20x
> as much work as you probably think and that something "cool" enough to
> go viral has be be VERY cool...  In the eyes of the audience,  not in
> your eyes.

Well, as far as I'm concerned, I may have an easier time SEO-wise promoting my 
topical essays, stories, and other such works. While they do not have the 
coolness factor of music, at least they focus on delivering a certain message.

I should also note that there's no way I'll resort to black hat SEO. I'm far 
too ethical to want to link spam lots of sites in the vein hope that it will 
give me better page rank.

> 
>      It's easy for people to blame the troubles of the music industry on
> the stupidity of music executives,  and it's not hard to find examples
> of it...  But in truth,  it's very,  very difficult to promote new
> music.  The basic issue is that people find it actively painful to
> listen to new music:  most people like 5% of what they hear...  In a
> relatively passive medium,  like radio (or automated streaming),  people
> often change the channel after hearing just a few riffs of something
> they don't like.  In the case of an active medium,  say people picking
> out tracks on the web,  they just won't work up the motivation to do it.
> 

I believe I liked more than 5% of the songs I listened to on Jamendo, but I 
may be an exception.

>      In the meantime,  new music competes with an extensive back
> catalog.  Many people from 15 to 65 listen exclusively to "Classic
> Rock",  a genre of music from 1968-1989 or so that has a small canon of
> about 1000 songs.  It's so overplayed that it makes me gag,  but each
> and every song in that collection deserves to be there.
> 
>      Anyhow,  the best formula I've seen is radio or streaming that
> mixes a handful of "oldies" that everybody has heard, (maybe 5-10%),  a
> handful of some recent things that fit in (10-20%) and fills up the bulk
> with "oldies" that are good but not overplayed.  Personally,  I crave
> variety,  but people need satisfaction and enjoy familiarity.
> 
>      An all-CC format has the problem that you don't have the back
> catalog to draw from.
> 
> >>> 6. Part of my problem may be that I'm still blogging on LiveJournal.com
> >>> and other hosted services. I'd like to move my blog to a dedicated
> >>> server with my own engine, but since I'm unhappy with WordPress and
> >>> other blog engines, then another guy and I started writing our own blog
> >>> engine and we didn't make a lot of progress lately. Yak shaving -
> >>> http://szabgab.com/blog/2008/10/1224765950.html .
> 
>      I wouldn't knock Livejournal.  It might not be the strongest
> blogging platform,  but it has a "firehose" that feeds results to search
> engines and thus has fantastic indexation,  at least in the short term
> -- Livejournal posts often end up in Google search results in ~minutes~.
> 

True. But I feel that I don't have enough control over my LiveJournal blogs 
(some of them I implemented as communities due to not knowing a better way to 
do so).

>      Overall,  writing your own blog platform is a mistake.  It's hard
> to beat Wordpress,  particularly if you don't want your comments overrun
> by black hat spammers.  A lot of people I know have gotten into Drupal
> -- I've seen it used as a CMS by organizations between 1 and 500
> employees...  Like any packaged software you're going to find things to
> hate about it,  but it's amazing how quickly you can get something "good
> enough" in Drupal.

Well, WordPress does not prevent spam by sheer magic - it has mechanisms for 
preventing spam which one can duplicate given the need. Someone I know, who 
used to use WordPress for his blog, commented a lot about its low code 
quality, and said that for true nirvana you need to write your own blog engine 
(which he did).

Regards,

	Shlomi Fish

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Lloyd | 5 Sep 2010 16:21
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Re: How to Promote Your Creative Commons Works?

I get about 100K hits a year on my flickr stream, and my main website 
gets about 1K a month. I don't spend much time on Google Ranking but I 
fix any obvious problems but that's it. I get people linking to the 
photos and pages from sites and forums, so I guess that people looking 
for the content are finding it. However, the content I provide is 
somewhat specialized, so may be that helps in that the site isn't one 
amongst 1000s.

I don't think that the CC license has much to do with whether people 
visit my site or not. I get a handful of hits a year with 
http://search.creativecommons.org/ as a referrer. Again that might be 
due to content. In short I think that people may specifically search out 
CC licensed content if they need to satisfy copyright requirements for 
their own works, otherwise not.

I use Drupal and Wordpress on my site, and I also have a LiveJournal 
account which I'm a bit tardy about updating nowadays. I twitter out 
each new page, and the pages tend to appear in the search engines within 
20-30 minutes.

As I said the content on my site is fairly specialized, for 
non-specialized content one would definitely need to build a community 
around it. I looked at your flickr stream and you have 24 contacts and 
12 groups. It is not enough - there are 5,000 images a minute uploaded 
there so unless you are posing dick or twat shot, you need to be far 
more active in commenting, faving, and participating in groups.

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Shlomi Fish | 7 Sep 2010 21:07
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Re: How to Promote Your Creative Commons Works?

On Sunday 05 September 2010 17:21:31 Lloyd wrote:
> I get about 100K hits a year on my flickr stream, and my main website
> gets about 1K a month. 

Hmmmm.... I'm getting about 300K hits a month on my web-site ( 
http://www.shlomifish.org/ ). Or at least requests. Don't know how much I get 
for my Flickr stream.

> I don't spend much time on Google Ranking but I
> fix any obvious problems but that's it. I get people linking to the
> photos and pages from sites and forums, so I guess that people looking
> for the content are finding it. However, the content I provide is
> somewhat specialized, so may be that helps in that the site isn't one
> amongst 1000s.
> 
> I don't think that the CC license has much to do with whether people
> visit my site or not. I get a handful of hits a year with
> http://search.creativecommons.org/ as a referrer. Again that might be
> due to content. In short I think that people may specifically search out
> CC licensed content if they need to satisfy copyright requirements for
> their own works, otherwise not.
> 
> I use Drupal and Wordpress on my site, and I also have a LiveJournal
> account which I'm a bit tardy about updating nowadays. I twitter out
> each new page, and the pages tend to appear in the search engines within
> 20-30 minutes.

OK.

> As I said the content on my site is fairly specialized, for
> non-specialized content one would definitely need to build a community
> around it. I looked at your flickr stream and you have 24 contacts and
> 12 groups. It is not enough - there are 5,000 images a minute uploaded
> there so unless you are posing dick or twat shot, you need to be far
> more active in commenting, faving, and participating in groups.
> 

Are you refering to http://flickr.com/photos/shlomif/ ? If so, I should note 
that promoting my photos is not a high priority for me (I also recently didn't 
renew my Flickr account, at least until I start uploading new photos again), 
but maybe they can be a vehicle to promote more of my web-site. I'll think 
about it.

Regards,

	Shlomi Fish

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Paul Houle | 8 Sep 2010 00:15
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Re: How to Promote Your Creative Commons Works?

  On 9/7/2010 3:07 PM, Shlomi Fish wrote:
> Are you refering to http://flickr.com/photos/shlomif/ ? If so, I should note
> that promoting my photos is not a high priority for me (I also recently didn't
> renew my Flickr account, at least until I start uploading new photos again),
> but maybe they can be a vehicle to promote more of my web-site. I'll think
> about it.

     ... I for one want to teach Ookaboo to eat your photo stream.

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