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Yury Averkiev | 2 May 2011 06:47
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RE: [TIGHT] Question about unattended installs

Please take a look at our TightVNC 2.0.2 MSI installer. It can be used for unattended silent installations:

 

http://www.s-code.com/kayako/index.php?_m=knowledgebase&_a=viewarticle&kbarticleid=62


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From: Tangles [mailto:tangles <at> gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, 28 April, 2011 7:16 AM
To: vnc-tight-list <at> lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [TIGHT] Question about unattended installs

 

I'm planning on installing TightVNC SERVER-only to multiple computers (and then importing a registry key with all of the settings I want, from a previously configured install) but I want to know how to do this silently and so that it doesn't install the VIEWER.

I'm using TightVNC version 2.0.2 in a  Windows XP Pro environment.

Any suggestions?

Also, is there an easier way of doing a silent install without having to import the registry keys afterward?  Perhaps an .ini file that can be called during the silent install?

Thanks in advance for any help anyone can offer.

-Chris

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Constantin Kaplinsky | 2 May 2011 17:51

Re: [TIGHT] Question about unattended installs

Hello Yury, Chris, and everyone,

>>>>> Yury Averkiev wrote:

> Please take a look at our TightVNC 2.0.2 MSI installer.
[...]

Just a minor correction and warning: it's not TightVNC, it's a
third-party product based on TightVNC. The installer of genuine TightVNC
2.0.2 is not MSI-based.

We neither support nor recommend to install TightVNC binaries via
third-party installers (although everyone is free to do that of course).

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Yury Averkiev | 2 May 2011 18:07
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RE: Question about unattended installs

> Just a minor correction and warning: it's not TightVNC, it's a third-party
product based on TightVNC. The installer of genuine TightVNC
> 2.0.2 is not MSI-based.

With all due respect Constantine, using "based on" phrase is not appropriate
in this context.
Out TightVNC MSI installer installs unmodified TightVNC binaries. We only
created MSI installer and that's it. 
There is no need to try to scare the users. 

I apologies for creating extra traffic in the mailing list.  I just want to
clear the things up.

Regards,
Yury
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Constantin Kaplinsky | 2 May 2011 19:07

Re: Question about unattended installs

Yury,

>>>>> Yury Averkiev wrote:

> Out TightVNC MSI installer

It's not "TightVNC MSI installer", no matter if you want it or not.
Please do not call it that way.

Actual "TightVNC MSI installer" will be released with TightVNC version
2.1 for Windows.

> installs unmodified TightVNC binaries. We only
> created MSI installer and that's it. 

TightVNC is not just a set of binaries, it includes certain environment
as created by the installation process (registry settings, system files,
installation info, a set of shortcuts here and there and so on).
Different installation processes may make differences in the
environment, and thus there can be no guarantee that everything would
work as expected.

As a simple example, imagine how next _official_ version of TightVNC
would upgrade software installed with _your_ so called "TightVNC MSI
installer".

And due to the same reasons described above, using a third-party
installer would eliminate possibilities to obtain proper technical
support from our company. That's why I MUST warn TightVNC users.

> There is no need to try to scare the users. 

I believe users have the right to understand what they install on their
own computers.

> I apologies for creating extra traffic in the mailing list.

I think there's nothing to discuss. It's TightVNC mailing list. If you
want to let people know about your installer, that's ok, no problem. But
you cannot pretend it's TightVNC, sorry. Just give it a different name
and that would perfectly resolve the confusion.

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Constantin

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Claudio Coletta | 6 May 2011 12:11
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Re: Disconnect when switching users XP

> Hello Mick,
>
> >>>>> Mick Mueck wrote:
>
> > Beware of TightVNC. One thing I like about RealVNC on a Mac is that I
> > can configure it to put up a timed window to approve the password
> > protected connection. VNC on the Mac is unfortunately only the
> > primary desktop (:0) so I don't like the idea of lots of people I
> > collaborate with, who know my VNC password, being able to connect
> > while I'm not present and this timed approval is great for that.
> > However, anybody connecting with TightVNC crashes every time I
> > approve the connection when this approval setup is in place.
>
> Please describe the problem in more details. How does that look like
> when "anybody connecting with TightVNC crashes"? We are very interested
> to resolve this problem if it's a problem of TightVNC.
>
	In my office I've the same problem, it should depend by the protocol and 
color depth. With hextile and 24bit it works.

> --
> Best Regards,
> Constantin
>
Bye,
Claudio.

> Hello Mick,
>
> >>>>> Mick Mueck wrote:
>
> > Beware of TightVNC. One thing I like about RealVNC on a Mac is that I
> > can configure it to put up a timed window to approve the password
> > protected connection. VNC on the Mac is unfortunately only the
> > primary desktop (:0) so I don't like the idea of lots of people I
> > collaborate with, who know my VNC password, being able to connect
> > while I'm not present and this timed approval is great for that.
> > However, anybody connecting with TightVNC crashes every time I
> > approve the connection when this approval setup is in place.
>
> Please describe the problem in more details. How does that look like
> when "anybody connecting with TightVNC crashes"? We are very interested
> to resolve this problem if it's a problem of TightVNC.
>
      In my office I've the same problem, it should depend by the protocol and color depth. With hextile and 24bit it works.


> --
> Best Regards,
> Constantin
>
Bye,
Claudio.

  
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Steveb | 6 May 2011 12:20

RE: Question about unattended installs

Hi All,

We use Advanced Installer (there's a free version at
http://www.advancedinstaller.com/) to create the MSi silent installer
that we use to deploy TightVNC using VNCScan.  It's pretty simple to use
and is probably what you were asking for in the first place.  You could
use a tool like VNCScan to deploy it for you and save all of the
trouble.  :-)  I'm guessing that you've already tried third party
solutions and you're just looking for a way to roll your own so Advanced
Installer seems like the logical choice for you.

Keep in mind what Constantin warned about here, though.  If you later
decide to use the official TightVNC installer to upgrade a machine that
you've deployed to using your own MSI (or the one that VNCScan uses),
you will run into conflicts and unknowns unless you uninstall the custom
MSI first. 

Does this help?

Steve Bostedor
http://www.vncscan.com

-----Original Message-----
From: Constantin Kaplinsky [mailto:const <at> tightvnc.com] 
Sent: Monday, May 02, 2011 1:07 PM
To: Yury Averkiev
Cc: vnc-tight-list <at> lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: Question about unattended installs

Yury,

>>>>> Yury Averkiev wrote:

> Out TightVNC MSI installer

It's not "TightVNC MSI installer", no matter if you want it or not.
Please do not call it that way.

Actual "TightVNC MSI installer" will be released with TightVNC version
2.1 for Windows.

> installs unmodified TightVNC binaries. We only created MSI installer 
> and that's it.

TightVNC is not just a set of binaries, it includes certain environment
as created by the installation process (registry settings, system files,
installation info, a set of shortcuts here and there and so on).
Different installation processes may make differences in the
environment, and thus there can be no guarantee that everything would
work as expected.

As a simple example, imagine how next _official_ version of TightVNC
would upgrade software installed with _your_ so called "TightVNC MSI
installer".

And due to the same reasons described above, using a third-party
installer would eliminate possibilities to obtain proper technical
support from our company. That's why I MUST warn TightVNC users.

> There is no need to try to scare the users. 

I believe users have the right to understand what they install on their
own computers.

> I apologies for creating extra traffic in the mailing list.

I think there's nothing to discuss. It's TightVNC mailing list. If you
want to let people know about your installer, that's ok, no problem. But
you cannot pretend it's TightVNC, sorry. Just give it a different name
and that would perfectly resolve the confusion.

--
Best Regards,
Constantin

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Constantin Kaplinsky | 7 May 2011 10:18

Re: Disconnect when switching users XP

Hello Claudio,

>>>>> Claudio Coletta wrote:

> In my office I've the same problem, it should depend by the protocol and 
> color depth. With hextile and 24bit it works.

If possible, please describe the problem in our bug tracker. We are
about to release new versions (2.0.3 and 2.1 BETA) and there is a chance
we'll fix things before the releases.

Here is the page which describes how to use TightVNC bug tracker:

  http://www.tightvnc.com/bugs.php

Thank you!

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Robert | 11 May 2011 19:54
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everything is slow - screen delay typing etc

I have vnc server on 4 computers (XP) in my office and tight vnc on a 5th (windows 7).

3 of the XP computers can be remoted into and everything works very quickly, almost as if you are right there.

2 of the others though, 1 XP vnc and the other win7 tight vnc seem slower. What I mean is that every operation takes longer to perform. Clicking the start menu is delayed if I hover over start menu items it takes a second before the item under the cursor is highlighted. Or if I try to switch between windows, minimize maximize move window etc it is all very slow and delayed.

or if I am typing something the text is super delayed. Usually the text doesn't appear until I'm finished typing. It doesn't matter what application, notepad, the address bar of windows explorer, firefox etc.

Since this is a tightvnc only group I'll just discuss the problem I'm having with tight vnc on windows 7.
cpu: core i7 3.4ghz
8gb memory
1tb hd.

practically brand new
The only things I have installed besides tight vnc
mssql express
virtual box

there is hardly any load on this computer cpu is idling at basically 0%
even when I'm using a virtual machine in vbox the cpu only spikes to about 1%

none of the computers in my office have dedicated gpu, they are all integraded.
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Arthur Kreitman | 11 May 2011 20:17

RE: everything is slow - screen delay typing etc

We did an extensive evaluation of tightVNC and went from a big fan to abandoning the product in favor of Microsoft’s (free) remote desktop due to two issues:  it has display driver issues, in causes many current generation display drivers to crash and restart causing it to just stop responding for 10 or 15 seconds on a periodic basis; its performance is pitiful compared to Remote Desktop.  Oh, if you have a problem with RDP, try using logmein’s free version.

 

From: Robert [mailto:zenmasta <at> zoho.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 1:54 PM
To: vnc-tight-list <at> lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: everything is slow - screen delay typing etc

 

I have vnc server on 4 computers (XP) in my office and tight vnc on a 5th (windows 7).

3 of the XP computers can be remoted into and everything works very quickly, almost as if you are right there.

2 of the others though, 1 XP vnc and the other win7 tight vnc seem slower. What I mean is that every operation takes longer to perform. Clicking the start menu is delayed if I hover over start menu items it takes a second before the item under the cursor is highlighted. Or if I try to switch between windows, minimize maximize move window etc it is all very slow and delayed.

or if I am typing something the text is super delayed. Usually the text doesn't appear until I'm finished typing. It doesn't matter what application, notepad, the address bar of windows explorer, firefox etc.

Since this is a tightvnc only group I'll just discuss the problem I'm having with tight vnc on windows 7.
cpu: core i7 3.4ghz
8gb memory
1tb hd.

practically brand new
The only things I have installed besides tight vnc
mssql express
virtual box

there is hardly any load on this computer cpu is idling at basically 0%
even when I'm using a virtual machine in vbox the cpu only spikes to about 1%

none of the computers in my office have dedicated gpu, they are all integraded.

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Robert | 11 May 2011 20:42
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RE: everything is slow - screen delay typing etc

my OS is w7 Home Premium so it doesn't support RDP which is why I was opting for tightvnc.
I've been using vnc for many years and have always like it. Just these 2 computers , 1 vnc 1 tight vnc seem to have the slowness issue.

I'd rather try to get this working better than install another product and open up yet another port on my firewall.


---- On Wed, 11 May 2011 10:17:30 -0800 Arthur Kreitman <artk <at> congruent.com> wrote ----

We did an extensive evaluation of tightVNC and went from a big fan to abandoning the product in favor of Microsoft’s (free) remote desktop due to two issues:  it has display driver issues, in causes many current generation display drivers to crash and restart causing it to just stop responding for 10 or 15 seconds on a periodic basis; its performance is pitiful compared to Remote Desktop.  Oh, if you have a problem with RDP, try using logmein’s free version.

 

From: Robert [mailto:zenmasta <at> zoho.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2011 1:54 PM
To: vnc-tight-list <at> lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: everything is slow - screen delay typing etc

 

I have vnc server on 4 computers (XP) in my office and tight vnc on a 5th (windows 7).

3 of the XP computers can be remoted into and everything works very quickly, almost as if you are right there.

2 of the others though, 1 XP vnc and the other win7 tight vnc seem slower. What I mean is that every operation takes longer to perform. Clicking the start menu is delayed if I hover over start menu items it takes a second before the item under the cursor is highlighted. Or if I try to switch between windows, minimize maximize move window etc it is all very slow and delayed.

or if I am typing something the text is super delayed. Usually the text doesn't appear until I'm finished typing. It doesn't matter what application, notepad, the address bar of windows explorer, firefox etc.

Since this is a tightvnc only group I'll just discuss the problem I'm having with tight vnc on windows 7.
cpu: core i7 3.4ghz
8gb memory
1tb hd.

practically brand new
The only things I have installed besides tight vnc
mssql express
virtual box

there is hardly any load on this computer cpu is idling at basically 0%
even when I'm using a virtual machine in vbox the cpu only spikes to about 1%

none of the computers in my office have dedicated gpu, they are all integraded.


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