Dale Jackson | 1 Aug 02:32 2008

Re: Audio from rdesktop Terminal Server 2003

I know the basic function is working because I can get sound to a terminal services client from a Windows environment. I just don’t know how to test the card and/or driver from Linux (live CD).

 

-Dale

From: Schifano, Steven [mailto:Steven.Schifano-pVXqn9t5Qp+LZvtRG1ECog@public.gmane.org]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:19 PM
To: Dale Jackson
Subject: RE: [Thinstation-general] Audio from rdesktop Terminal Server 2003

 

For starters, remove all of the sound drivers from your image except for emu10k1.  That is the only driver you should need.  From personal experience, having more sound drivers than necessary could cause problems.

 

Next, you will need to edit your rdesktop session options in thinstation.conf.buildtime to include sound redirection.  More information on how to do this can be found here:

 

http://thinstation.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/ThHowto-RDP_local_devices

 

After you’ve done all that and the sound still doesn’t work, try issuing a gpupdate /force on the Windows client and then reboot the PC.  I have been told that a simple log off after gpupdate should suffice, but from personal experience I have always had to reboot to get it to work.

 

Steve Schifano

PC/Network Engineer Intern

OEConnection

4205 Highlander Pkwy.

Richfield, OH44286

330-523-1617

 

From: thinstation-general-bounces-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org [mailto:thinstation-general-bounces-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Dale Jackson
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Subject: [Thinstation-general] Audio from rdesktop Terminal Server 2003

 

I have been using ThinStation for a while now but did not choose to set up the local audio. I recently received a request to enable local audio. I have made the changes on the server (W2k3 Enterprise) to enable sound redirect and I have tested it from a Windows box using Remote Desktop successfully.

 

I read some threads on sound but am still stuck. I have tried using the Live CD and have built a TS-O-Matic image with all sound drivers but am not getting audio to the local pc.

 

The test system I am using has an older Sound Blaster Live CT4780 PCI sound card.

 

I am not a Linux user so I am unsure on how to test and see if the driver is loading or if the device is working. Can anyone provide some guidance on how test the device and/or driver?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Dale Jackson

 

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Joseph L. Casale | 1 Aug 04:21 2008

Re: Audio from rdesktop Terminal Server 2003

<'scuse the top post>

 <at> Steven,
"... on the windows client and then reboot the pc"? His client is a Linux
box running rdesktop? I assume you meant allow redirection on the "terminal server"
via GPO's? Regardless, its working for his windows clients running mstsc, so its
obviously his Thinstation setup.

 <at> Dale,
I use the sound redirection successfully, you need the -r sound syntax as
Steven pointed out and the applicable drivers. The driver Steven mentions
is the only PCI based Creative Labs module available, possibly that very
old card is not supported by this module? Are the other computers configured
the same? It does work, I'm listening to Wax Tailor through Thinstation now
connected to a WinXP virtual machine on recent hardware with the Intel HD
module, admittedly its kind of like watching Yugo's race but it works :)

jlc

From: thinstation-general-bounces@...
[mailto:thinstation-general-bounces@...] On
Behalf Of Dale Jackson
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 6:33 PM
To: thinstation-general@...
Subject: Re: [Thinstation-general] Audio from rdesktop Terminal Server 2003

I know the basic function is working because I can get sound to a terminal services client from a Windows
environment. I just don't know how to test the card and/or driver from Linux (live CD).

-Dale
________________________________________
From: Schifano, Steven [mailto:Steven.Schifano@...]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:19 PM
To: Dale Jackson
Subject: RE: [Thinstation-general] Audio from rdesktop Terminal Server 2003

For starters, remove all of the sound drivers from your image except for emu10k1.  That is the only driver you
should need.  From personal experience, having more sound drivers than necessary could cause problems.

Next, you will need to edit your rdesktop session options in thinstation.conf.buildtime to include sound
redirection.  More information on how to do this can be found here:

http://thinstation.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/ThHowto-RDP_local_devices

After you've done all that and the sound still doesn't work, try issuing a gpupdate /force on the Windows
client and then reboot the PC.  I have been told that a simple log off after gpupdate should suffice, but from
personal experience I have always had to reboot to get it to work.

Steve Schifano
PC/Network Engineer Intern
OEConnection
4205 Highlander Pkwy.
Richfield, OH 44286
330-523-1617

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From: thinstation-general-bounces@...
[mailto:thinstation-general-bounces@...] On
Behalf Of Dale Jackson
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 3:10 PM
To: thinstation-general@...
Subject: [Thinstation-general] Audio from rdesktop Terminal Server 2003

I have been using ThinStation for a while now but did not choose to set up the local audio. I recently received
a request to enable local audio. I have made the changes on the server (W2k3 Enterprise) to enable sound
redirect and I have tested it from a Windows box using Remote Desktop successfully.

I read some threads on sound but am still stuck. I have tried using the Live CD and have built a TS-O-Matic
image with all sound drivers but am not getting audio to the local pc.

The test system I am using has an older Sound Blaster Live CT4780 PCI sound card.

I am not a Linux user so I am unsure on how to test and see if the driver is loading or if the device is working. Can
anyone provide some guidance on how test the device and/or driver?

Thanks in advance.

Dale Jackson

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Tyssen, Kjell Inge | 1 Aug 13:34 2008
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Terminal service Licensing with Thinstation error

Hi!

 

We have a problem with Terminal Service Licensing and our Thinstation clients.

 

The thinstations are using a lot of terminal service licences each. Each Thinstation is listed many times in the lists of issued licenses.

 

Anyone know a way to stop this from happening ?

 

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Re: Terminal service Licensing with Thinstationerror

Kjell,
 
This is not a Thinstation issue.
Change the settings in Terminal Server configuration to "per user" instead of "per device".
Now it will not register at all.
 
Gerard
 

From: thinstation-general-bounces-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org [mailto:thinstation-general-bounces-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Tyssen, Kjell Inge
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Subject: [Thinstation-general] Terminal service Licensing with Thinstationerror

Hi!

 

We have a problem with Terminal Service Licensing and our Thinstation clients.

 

The thinstations are using a lot of terminal service licences each. Each Thinstation is listed many times in the lists of issued licenses.

 

Anyone know a way to stop this from happening ?

 

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Marcus Robichon | 1 Aug 22:44 2008
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VMWare Console

Hi all,

 

we are using thinstation daily with the RDP protocol and Windows 2003 Terminal Server with approx. 30 clients. Everything works fine.

But we also have a marketing department which uses graphical and dtp programs. We tried to use the terminal server, but the performance is quite poor.

 

So we wonder why not to move them to Virtual Clients on a VM-Ware Server. Beside we would like also these clients go on using thinstation as OS, but we need of course the vmware console.

 

I saw that in the build there is a module called “VmWare X Server for development” … I searched for more then one hour which purpose this module will fulfil … no answer.

Could someone explain me the way to reach this goal or tell me why not to go this way.

 

Thanks a lot.

 

Marcus Robichon

 

 

 

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gerton | 1 Aug 20:59 2008
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Wyse wt9455xl as a Thinstation running rdesktop nxclient and local firefox with Flash and Java and network printing support?

Dear list,

We have been running Thinstation on Dell Optiplexes (mostly g1 some 
gx1's ) in our primary school. We boot using tftp. Right now, we use 
rdesktop with sound support connectong to a single Win 203 terminal 
server. This is working well, but we need more machines and Dell 
Optiplex g1's and gx1 's are becoming harder to find
Most machines that refubishers are offering are pentium 4 2.6 Ghz wich 
consume too much power.
We probably don't need that much processing power either.
So in an effort to limit the different hardware to maintain, we got an 
interesting offer from one of our refubishing companies:

wyse wt9455xl  (Thin client terminal).

I't supposed to have 256 mb ram. This probably makes it possible to add 
some exiting new options to our Thinstations like:

Firefox local + flash + java + network printing support
nxclient to connect to our Linux Terminal Server

(and offcourse rdesktop + sound support still).

The question is: are these powerfull enough and what video driver and 
sound driver will they have. I have searched the net and gathered this 
info sofar, but this info doen't include the exact chips for video and 
audio:
Memory 	256 MB Flash / 256 MB Ram
I/O Peripheral Support 	One Serial Port.
Four USB 2.0 Ports (2 Front, 2 Back)
Two PS/2 Port
VGA Type Video Output (DB-15)
Enhanced PS/2 keyboard with Windows keys
PS/2 mouse included.
Networking 	10/100 Base-T Fast Ethernet twisted pair (RJ-45)
Display Support 	VESA monitor support with Display Data Control (DDC) 
for automatic setting of resolution and refresh rate.
16-bit/64K colors up to: 1600 x 1200  <at>  60Hz
24-bit/16.7M colors up to: 1024 x 768  <at>  85Hz
Audio 	Output: 1/8-inch mini jack, 16-bit stereo, 48KHz sample rate

 
The interesting bit is the flash memory they obviously boot from; is it 
feasible to put Thinstation on flash memory? Will this flash memory be 
as reliable as booting from tftp and does this unit support tftp just in 
case?

I appreciate any pointers you may have. So if you have any experience 
with Thinstation on this specific hardware, please reply to the list.

Thanks,

G.C.

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Mike Eriksen | 2 Aug 00:21 2008
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Re: Wyse wt9455xl as a Thinstation running rdesktop nxclient and local firefox with Flash and Java and network printing support?

The Wyse terminal are either based on VIA Epias or AMD Geodes. From
the video ranges you quote, I'm fairly sure it is Epias, which is
nothing short of perfect for TS.

Booting off the flash is WAY faster than the network booting.

Mike

On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 8:59 PM, gerton <gerton@...> wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> We have been running Thinstation on Dell Optiplexes (mostly g1 some
> gx1's ) in our primary school. We boot using tftp. Right now, we use
> rdesktop with sound support connectong to a single Win 203 terminal
> server. This is working well, but we need more machines and Dell
> Optiplex g1's and gx1 's are becoming harder to find
> Most machines that refubishers are offering are pentium 4 2.6 Ghz wich
> consume too much power.
> We probably don't need that much processing power either.
> So in an effort to limit the different hardware to maintain, we got an
> interesting offer from one of our refubishing companies:
>
> wyse wt9455xl  (Thin client terminal).
>
> I't supposed to have 256 mb ram. This probably makes it possible to add
> some exiting new options to our Thinstations like:
>
> Firefox local + flash + java + network printing support
> nxclient to connect to our Linux Terminal Server
>
> (and offcourse rdesktop + sound support still).
>
> The question is: are these powerfull enough and what video driver and
> sound driver will they have. I have searched the net and gathered this
> info sofar, but this info doen't include the exact chips for video and
> audio:
> Memory  256 MB Flash / 256 MB Ram
> I/O Peripheral Support  One Serial Port.
> Four USB 2.0 Ports (2 Front, 2 Back)
> Two PS/2 Port
> VGA Type Video Output (DB-15)
> Enhanced PS/2 keyboard with Windows keys
> PS/2 mouse included.
> Networking      10/100 Base-T Fast Ethernet twisted pair (RJ-45)
> Display Support         VESA monitor support with Display Data Control (DDC)
> for automatic setting of resolution and refresh rate.
> 16-bit/64K colors up to: 1600 x 1200  <at>  60Hz
> 24-bit/16.7M colors up to: 1024 x 768  <at>  85Hz
> Audio   Output: 1/8-inch mini jack, 16-bit stereo, 48KHz sample rate
>
>
> The interesting bit is the flash memory they obviously boot from; is it
> feasible to put Thinstation on flash memory? Will this flash memory be
> as reliable as booting from tftp and does this unit support tftp just in
> case?
>
> I appreciate any pointers you may have. So if you have any experience
> with Thinstation on this specific hardware, please reply to the list.
>
> Thanks,
>
> G.C.
>
>
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Trevor Batley | 2 Aug 00:27 2008
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Re: VMWare Console

On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 22:44 +0200, Marcus Robichon wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>  
> 
> we are using thinstation daily with the RDP protocol and Windows 2003
> Terminal Server with approx. 30 clients. Everything works fine.
> 
> But we also have a marketing department which uses graphical and dtp
> programs. We tried to use the terminal server, but the performance is
> quite poor.
> 
>  
> 
> So we wonder why not to move them to Virtual Clients on a VM-Ware
> Server. Beside we would like also these clients go on using
> thinstation as OS, but we need of course the vmware console.
> 
>  
> 
> I saw that in the build there is a module called “VmWare X Server for
> development” … I searched for more then one hour which purpose this
> module will fulfil … no answer.
> 
This is the old XFree 3 video driver for VMWare.
The newer XOrg 6.9 one is xorg6-vmware. These are for use in a VDM.

> Could someone explain me the way to reach this goal or tell me why not
> to go this way.
> 
TS runs fine in VMWare, either from a virtual CD, via pxe or syslinux on
a VMWare disk. Use the pcnet32 module for the nic.

Trevor B
>  
> 
> Thanks a lot.
> 
>  
> 
> Marcus Robichon
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
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Jason Mills | 2 Aug 04:14 2008

Re: VMware Console (support / plug-in)

Marcus-

> -----Original Message-----
> Trevor Batley wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2008-08-01 at 22:44 +0200, Marcus Robichon wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > we are using thinstation daily with the RDP protocol and
> > Windows 2003 Terminal Server with approx. 30 clients.
> > Everything works fine.
> >
> > But we also have a marketing department which uses graphical
> > and dtp programs. We tried to use the terminal server, but the
> > performance is quite poor.
> >
> > So we wonder why not to move them to Virtual Clients on a VMware
> > Server. Beside we would like also these clients go on using
> > thinstation as OS, but we need of course the vmware console.

Your description here suggests that you are looking to have the physical desktops still run ThinStation as
the local OS ("client"), but rather than the physical desktop connecting to a remote Windows Terminal
Services instance over RDP ("server"), you'd like the physical desktop to connect to the "local console"
of a standalone virtual machine ("server") using the appropriate VMware mouse/keyboard/screen
console plug-in.

What specific VMware product and version were you intending on using to host the virtual machines in question?

> > I saw that in the [ThinStation] build there is a module called
> >   VMware X Server for development
> >
> > I searched for more then one hour which purpose this
> > module will fulfill, no answer.
>
>
> This is the old XFree 3 video driver for VMware.
> The newer XOrg 6.9 one is xorg6-vmware. These are for use in a VDM.

As Trevor explained, this is so that ThinStation has an appropriate X Windows driver when run as a virtual
machine on our (VMware) products. Typically this is used in testing scenarios to allow rapid switching
between various ThinStation builds, or parallel operation of multiple builds on a single physical system.

This is the inverse of what you're describing above... you (Marcus) need to access remote virtual
machines, not to virtualize your ThinStation clients.

> > Could someone explain me the way to reach this goal or tell
> > me why not to go this way.
>
>
> TS runs fine [as a VM] in VMware [products], either [booting the VM]
> from a virtual CD, via pxe or syslinux on a VMware [virtual] disk.
> Use the pcnet32 module for the [virtual] nic.
>
>
> Trevor B
>
>
> > Thanks a lot.
> >
> > Marcus Robichon

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Brian Ujvary | 3 Aug 18:57 2008

Andy,

I recently purchased a Elo 1739L touchscreen and was able to get it working
with Thinstation 2.2.1 and the Elo Unified Serial Driver.  Attached is a
tarball that contains the elok_s kernel module as well as an elo package.  I
made a modification the x-common "x" startup script to properly insert the
elo device into the Xorf config file if the elo package is available.

You will need to untar the attached tarball in the Thinstation 2.2.1
sub-directory and add the following lines to your build.conf file:

    module elok_s
    package elo

Hopefully this will work for you.

Thanks,
Brian

Andy Lawton wrote:
> 
> Hmm, well I have been experimenting with getting a touch screen working.
> To recap, I'm using a USB to Serial converter as I have no conventional
> COM
> ports. I have loaded the correct drivers and hey presto, it appears as
> ttyUSB0. It works too, as I can connect to COM1 on my laptop and squirt
> characters from thinstation  to ttyUSB0 and see them arrive on the
> terminal
> running on the laptop. I have loaded the evdev driver, and spent all day
> googling around to see how it can be used. I have found stuff here
> http://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/research/dtg/research/wiki/Touchscreens and here
> http://stz-softwaretechnik.com/~ke/touchscreen/evtouch.html#download<http://stz-softwaretechnik.com/%7Eke/touchscreen/evtouch.html#download>and
> in other places too. I have tried editing XF86Config-1 and restarting
> X
> to see what happens.
> 
> First of all, I have tried just putting things in the file like this:
> 
> Section "InputDevice"
>     Identifier "touchscreen"
>     Driver "evtouch"
>     Option "Device" "/dev/input/event1"
>     Option "DeviceName" "touchscreen"
>     Option "MinX" "98"
>     Option "MinY" "43"
>     Option "MaxX" "940"
>     Option "MaxY" "925"
>     Option "ReportingMode" "Raw"
>     Option "Emulate3Buttons"
>     Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"
>     Option "SendCoreEvents" "On"
> EndSection
> 
> with an entry in the ServerLayout section:
> 
> InputDevice "touchscreen" "CorePointer"
> 
> This just locks up the station requiring a reboot. I have tried any number
> of alternatives in the config file, but either they do nothing or the
> station locks. The culprit seems to be an entry in the ServerLayout
> section.
> I have tried many combinations of entries in the config file - all to no
> avail.
> 
> So has anyone ever tried using the evdev driver for anything? It seems
> that
> it can be used for conventional mice too.
> I'm having no luck at all! Any pointers/experience would be gratefully
> recieved.
> 
> If I ever get it working, then the next question would be how do you make
> additions to the X config file that are persistant? There must be a way,
> but
> I don't know how. How do events from ttyUSB0 get to /dev/input/event0 or
> event1 ?
> 
> Also here
> http://stz-softwaretechnik.com/~ke/touchscreen/evtouch.html#download
> <http://stz-softwaretechnik.com/%7Eke/touchscreen/evtouch.html#download>is
> a
> driver for touch screens. It would be great if someone would be kind
> enough
> to build a module/package for thinstation - I can test it gladly and it
> will
> be another feature!
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Andy
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