Aggregated news source syndication?

How/where can I find/use feeds that mush together UK news stories of different types?

For example, Google News offers up news stories in various categories (ie. Sport, Health) 
and, of course, their alorithm, cleverly avoids repetition of stories on the same subject (I'm 
aware Google News doesn't syndicate out to RSS at this stage - Atom etc.?).

How does TodaysPapers.com do what it does?
That little site has a couple of hundred stories each listed across 12 categories.
Where do they get these stories from? Is it a matter of one selecting feeds himself from 
sites that offer them, then combining them somehow (a "feedroll")?
Or do they just come in from some aggregation/wire service that's already done that, like 
Moreover, or... Google!?
How are they fed in?
Can I get UK-specific feeds?

How do these guys deal with multiple stories on the same subject?
Obviously, Google has some fancy algorithm to group similar stories. But, without 
something like that, you wouldn't dozens of publishers' stories on the same subject 
coming in, would you?
Also confused about gaguing "popular" stories (maybe there's a feed somewhere for *that* 
as well?).

So many questions :)

Thank-you very much for your help.

 
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MSN News Search RSS

This is probably old news but I was just looking at the new MSN News 
Search and it's RSS feed and discovered that every entry seems to be 
coming from Moreover.

I'd given up on Moreover years ago, because they were progressively 
hiding their RSS and the aggregation wasn't great. And now I find it's 
all available again and out in the open.

I hope their getting some money from this.

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Re: Aggregated news source syndication?

Is ATOM dead? Did I miss the memo?

So I'm doing some cleaning up on my feeds and noticed that the
namespace for ATOM .3 (http://purl.org/atom/ns# ) seems dead. I looked
around on ATOMenabled.com and there doesn't seem to be any mention of
new namespaces. 

Did that format die? Or did I miss the memo talking about format and
namespace changes?

TNL
Still (foolishly) trying to support as many syndication formats as
possible...

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Re: Is ATOM dead? Did I miss the memo?

Fri, 04 Feb 2005 17:27:59 -0000, Tristan Louis wrote:
> I looked around on ATOMenabled.com and there doesn't seem to be any
> mention of new namespaces.

The Finally Atom weblog keeps more up to date than atomenabled.org,
seems like:

http://danja.typepad.com/fecho/

Since Atom 0.3, the Atom format has moved to the process for becoming
an IETF standard. The current version is draft-ietf-atompub-format-05:

http://ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-atompub-format-05.txt

It says the proper namespace URI is:

http://purl.org/atom/ns#draft-ietf-atompub-format-05

The IETF Internet-Draft boilerplate says, "It is inappropriate to use
Internet-Drafts as reference material or to cite them other than as
'work in progress,'" so as I understand it, pre-Internet-Draft version
0.3 is still the "current version" for implementations. I don't think
anyone is implementing the Atom format past 0.3 until it goes "1.0" as
an IETF RFC, other than to study and develop the format. Tim Bray
wrote recently that the working group is pretty close to submitting
Atom for RFC-ization, though:

http://tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2005/01/24/LastAtomIssues
http://tbray.org/ongoing/When/200x/2005/01/30/Engagement

I'm not formally involved with the Atom process, but I hope that
helps.

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Thesis on syndication formats

Dear all,

I'm writing thesis on RSS 1.0, RSS 2.0 and Atom titled
"Socio-technical Issues Surrounding Content Syndication with RSS and
Atom in E-commerce". Could you please read part of table of contents
and advise other areas for investigation of syndication formats'
differences. If you suggest area for investigation, could you please
provide some explanation.  All your comments are welcome.

Regards, 
Sigitas Jakucionis

Table of Contents

5. TECHNICAL DIFFERENCES OF RSS AND ATOM

5.1 Support for entries in multiple languages
5.2 Ambiguity of speciffication (title, link, summary/content, extensibility)
5.3 Formats (and encoding) of entries
5.4 Security
5.5 APIs for editing and extending
5.6 Interoperability
5.7 Scalability
5.8 Identity of entry
5.9 Complexity of syntax
5.10 Extensibility
5.11 Archiving
5.12 Performance

6. SOCIAL ISSUES

6.1 Vendor neutrality
6.2 Licencing
6.3 Approval of standardization bodies

 
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Re: Thesis on syndication formats

On Feb 15, 2005, at 21:54, Sigitas Jakucionis wrote:

> All your comments are welcome.

Perhaps you could ponder why so called syndication formats closely 
resemble a storm in a tea cup in lights of the advent of RSSDigest in 
1992:

http://alt.textdrive.com/lua/24/lua-lupads-rssdigest

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RE: Thesis on syndication formats

>    Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2005 20:54:52 +0000
>    From: Sigitas Jakucionis <sigitas@...>
>    Subject: Thesis on syndication formats
> 
> 
> Dear all,
> 
> I'm writing thesis on RSS 1.0, RSS 2.0 and Atom titled 
> "Socio-technical Issues Surrounding Content Syndication with 
> RSS and Atom in E-commerce". 

<snip />

Good idea Sigitas. Will you be publishing the thesis so it
may be read by members of the public?

There is little I can offer but a few pithy comments.
Your current topical outline seems 'light' with regard to
'socio' and heavy on the 'technical' wouldn't you agree?

The current outline says little about the use of
syndication on marketing economics, the impact that 
syndication will have on those who have hitherto controlled 
markets by means of unethical if not fraudulent manipulation 
of the economics of publishing (newspapers, magazines and 
corrupt broadcast media) and so on.

With my background in developing e-commerce websites I
can foresee the emergence of lightweight loosely coupled
syndicated product information service(s) that merchants 
will use to distribute product information to many 
participating sites who will earn commissions for referrals, 
i.e. a new era of 'affiliate marketing.'

Hope these comments help...

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Re: Thesis on syndication formats

Or you could just ignore this sort of silliness.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "PA" <petite.abeille@...>
> > All your comments are welcome.
> 
> Perhaps you could ponder why so called syndication formats closely 
> resemble a storm in a tea cup in lights of the advent of RSSDigest in 
> 1992:
> 
> http://alt.textdrive.com/lua/24/lua-lupads-rssdigest

 
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Re: Thesis on syndication formats

Sigitas Jakucionis wrote:

>Dear all,
>
>I'm writing thesis on RSS 1.0, RSS 2.0 and Atom titled
>"Socio-technical Issues Surrounding Content Syndication with RSS and
>Atom in E-commerce". Could you please read part of table of contents
>  
>

You should cover the whole RDF debate under "complexity of syntax"

Summary vs Content is a good issue.

Also you should discuss the mod_link module in RSS 1.0 (which was both 
brilliant and ahead of its time (*cough*) but wasn't adopted) and the 
Atom 0.5 link structure which is essentially the same.

Kevin

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