RSS inside PDF


Anyone know how to display an RSS feed inside a PDF document? I suspect this
can be accomplished using JavaScript, but no idea on the details.

 
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Don Parsons | 9 Nov 2004 21:47
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Re: RSS inside PDF


I can think of at least one option... PHP has a PDF
module that allows you to dynamically create PDF
files. You should be able to write a PHP script that
will read the RSS feed data from a website on the
Internet, and output the information to a PDF file
that is generated real-time. I have not done this
first hand, but I see no reason why it would not work.
Here is a link to the part of the online PHP manual
that discusses the PHP module.

http://www.php.net/manual/en/ref.pdf.php

Don Parsons
Houston, TX

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<rssfunbook@...> wrote:

> Anyone know how to display an RSS feed inside a PDF
> document? I suspect this
> can be accomplished using JavaScript, but no idea on
> the details.

		
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Bill Kearney | 9 Nov 2004 23:19

Re: RSS inside PDF


Do you want to render the RSS file into the PDF when you create the PDF?  Or
do you want to have the PDF viewer 'automatigically' update it's contents
from an RSS document when viewed at some later point?  The former is
certainly do-able following Don's suggestion.  The latter, I'm not sure it's
possible nor would I entertain doing it even if it was.  Imagine the
security risks of letting code from an external source be driven into a PDF
viewer.  I'd hope the PDF viewer would 'take steps' to secure the run-time
environment but I wouldn't bet any of my own money on it working properly.

What are you trying to do?  There may be more than one way to skin the cat.

-Bill Kearney

From: "Don Parsons" <dparsons62@...>
> I can think of at least one option... PHP has a PDF
> module that allows you to dynamically create PDF
> files.

> --- "W. Frederick Zimmerman, Tech Fun Books"
> <rssfunbook@...> wrote:
> > Anyone know how to display an RSS feed inside a PDF
> > document? I suspect this
> > can be accomplished using JavaScript, but no idea on
> > the details.

 
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RE: RSS inside PDF


I want to publish a PDF e-book and on some of the pages I would like to
display the latest 10 documents from an external RSS feed. 

----PDF page----
Static text
Static text
Static text

RSS feed
Link 1
Link 2
Link 3...
---endpage----

 If a reader clicks on the link, I would like to open the browser.

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Kearney [mailto:wkearney@...] 
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2004 5:19 PM
To: syndication@...
Subject: Re: [syndication] RSS inside PDF

Do you want to render the RSS file into the PDF when you create the PDF?  Or
do you want to have the PDF viewer 'automatigically' update it's contents
from an RSS document when viewed at some later point?  The former is
certainly do-able following Don's suggestion.  The latter, I'm not sure it's
possible nor would I entertain doing it even if it was.  Imagine the
security risks of letting code from an external source be driven into a PDF
viewer.  I'd hope the PDF viewer would 'take steps' to secure the run-time
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Jim Malmberg | 10 Nov 2004 23:12

new RSS newsfeed group


Because the Syndication group at Yahoo Groups seems to have died off 
over the past couple of months, I've established a new group to help 
anyone interested in setting up and promoting RSS feeds. 

If you are still interested in participating in discussion groups 
regarding RSS, please join the group at 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RSSNewsSetup.

Best regards,

Jim

Nick Lothian | 10 Nov 2004 23:50
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RE: RSS inside PDF


I've never seen a PDF that has dynamic content inside it. Is there anything
that makes you think this is possible?

I know that Acrobat Reader 6 has some support for various plugins -
including a webservice plugin - but I'm not sure that a PDF can actually do
what you want.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: W. Frederick Zimmerman, Tech Fun Books
> [mailto:rssfunbook@...]
> Sent: Thursday, 11 November 2004 2:42 AM
> To: syndication@...
> Subject: RE: [syndication] RSS inside PDF
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> 
> 
> 
> I want to publish a PDF e-book and on some of the pages I 
> would like to
> display the latest 10 documents from an external RSS feed. 
> 
> ----PDF page----
> Static text
> Static text
> Static text
> 
> RSS feed
> Link 1
> Link 2
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RE: RSS inside PDF


PDF supports database calls with something called ADBC (see, e.g.
http://www.planetpdf.com/forumarchive/35599.asp) , and PDF Javascript
includes a GetURL call http://www.planetpdf.com/forumarchive/54440.asp which
includes an optional parameter for appending the contents of the URL to the
document (which, obviously, must be writeable -- big snag with most e-book
delivery systems ... not sure I have an answer for that).

 

 

 

 

 
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From: Nick Lothian [mailto:nl@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2004 5:51 PM
To: 'syndication@...'
Subject: RE: [syndication] RSS inside PDF

I've never seen a PDF that has dynamic content inside it. Is there anything
that makes you think this is possible?

I know that Acrobat Reader 6 has some support for various plugins -
including a webservice plugin - but I'm not sure that a PDF can actually do
what you want.

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Bill Kearney | 11 Nov 2004 16:08

Re: RSS inside PDF


> (which, obviously, must be writeable -- big snag with most e-book
> delivery systems ... not sure I have an answer for that).

Yeah, if you're creating PDFs then it's HIGHLY likely the users consuming
them are going to assume they're like other PDFs they use.  Those aren't
"active" documents most of them time, they're just printable versions.

That and you'd probably incur the wrath of the upgrade gods because of
needing new adobe acrobat client software on all the user machines.  While
adobe would certainly love to sell upgrades for it there might be resistance
from the users and management about it.

Live updates from RSS URLs is *fraught* with perils.  Most significantly of
which being abuse of the RSS servers by using page-load activities.  I know
nothing about how a 'properly constructed' ADBC document would work but I'm
guessing it might not be geared toward being RSS-friendly.  I could be
mistaken.  Additional hassles are that the users might want or need to view
the documents in a disconnected fashion (laptops, pda, home machine, etc).
Using a live reference to an external document is gonna break in those
cases.

Perhaps it's worth a step back and asking 'what are you trying to
accomplish'?

-Bill Kearney

 
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Dave Seidel | 11 Nov 2004 16:18

RE: RSS inside PDF


Another factor to consider is that that not everyone uses Acrobat to read
PDF files.  On my wife's machine, for example, Acrobat refuises to run for
some reason, so she uses GSview. And of course most Linux users are using
alternative PDF readers as well (usually based on Ghostscript, as GSview
is).  I have no idea is these viewers support the same capabilities as
Acrobat.

- Dave Seidel

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Kearney [mailto:wkearney@...] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:08 AM
To: syndication@...
Subject: Re: [syndication] RSS inside PDF

> (which, obviously, must be writeable -- big snag with most e-book
> delivery systems ... not sure I have an answer for that).

Yeah, if you're creating PDFs then it's HIGHLY likely the users consuming
them are going to assume they're like other PDFs they use.  Those aren't
"active" documents most of them time, they're just printable versions.

That and you'd probably incur the wrath of the upgrade gods because of
needing new adobe acrobat client software on all the user machines.  While
adobe would certainly love to sell upgrades for it there might be resistance
from the users and management about it.

Live updates from RSS URLs is *fraught* with perils.  Most significantly of
which being abuse of the RSS servers by using page-load activities.  I know
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RE: RSS inside PDF


Yes, I am gravitating back to simply providing external links inside the PDF
document. 

Many interesting things could be done if I was building the PDFs on the fly
at reading time, but I'm not ... 

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Kearney [mailto:wkearney@...] 
Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2004 10:08 AM
To: syndication@...
Subject: Re: [syndication] RSS inside PDF

> (which, obviously, must be writeable -- big snag with most e-book
> delivery systems ... not sure I have an answer for that).

Yeah, if you're creating PDFs then it's HIGHLY likely the users consuming
them are going to assume they're like other PDFs they use.  Those aren't
"active" documents most of them time, they're just printable versions.

That and you'd probably incur the wrath of the upgrade gods because of
needing new adobe acrobat client software on all the user machines.  While
adobe would certainly love to sell upgrades for it there might be resistance
from the users and management about it.

Live updates from RSS URLs is *fraught* with perils.  Most significantly of
which being abuse of the RSS servers by using page-load activities.  I know
nothing about how a 'properly constructed' ADBC document would work but I'm
guessing it might not be geared toward being RSS-friendly.  I could be
mistaken.  Additional hassles are that the users might want or need to view
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