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Martin Hirsch | 13 Oct 2008 02:37
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Leave the group active for reference purposes

I joined this group so that one day, when time permits, I might be
able to go through the messages and what not to learn more about
syndication. If you don't think there's any worthwhile information,
then by all means, pull the plug.

My recommendation would be to open up the message viewing to the
public without requiring membership, place a note on the home page
that the existing messages are being saved for reference purposes, for
a while longer at least.

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    Mark Nottingham | 12 Oct 2008 00:59
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    List Closing

    Just a quick note -

    I started this list <http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/syndication/message/2> more than
    nine years ago (!) to talk about "syndication". In the process, we had a nice war about RSS,
    and helped birth a new, open standard -- Atom.

    There hasn't been any serious activity on this list since 2004, and even its name isn't terribly
    relevant any more, as the community's discussion has moved from syndication to blogging,
    open data APIs and further.

    As a result, I'll be closing this list down soon. It was fun.

    If you have syndication-related questions, there are a number of places to take them; I'd
    suggest the atom-syntax mailing list <http://www.imc.org/atom-syntax/> as a starting
    point.

    May you enjoy having one less mailbox to monitor,

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    Steven Clift | 20 Aug 2007 21:46

    Authenticated web feed access standard?

    Is there a standard that defines how news aggregators should request
    access to web feeds behind a login/password?

    Our few private groups - http://forums.e-democracy.org - generate web
    feeds which may be read by default browser-based feed readers and
    there is no problem to display them if someone stays logged in via the
    browser.

    However, I'd like to have the developer of the open source GroupServer
    - http://groupserver.org - tool explore giving authenticated access to
    Bloglines and other users of aggregators that supposedly support this
    kind of access.

    Steven Clift
    E-Democracy.Org

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    Steven Clift | 5 Feb 2007 18:38

    Aggregation to RSS services, Mash-up tool recommendations


    I am looking for recommendations on a web-based service that would
    allow me to aggregate clusters of RSS feeds and turn them into a
    combined RSS feed I can display on my my site.

    I am currently using the Drupal aggregator to display about 100 feeds
    related to "e-democracy" and I'd like to stream-line the presentation.
    While I know that I can use blog search tools to display specific
    keywords in a combined feed, I am really looking for something that
    combines feeds (a keeps them freshly gathered).

    Also, since I can't find a e-list on "mash-ups" I am looking for a
    tool that combines YouTube, Flickr, Del.icio.us and others. Something
    we can use to replicate this "mnpolitics" tag aggregation page
    http://e-democracy.org/voices for the U.S. Presidential election and the
    "p2008" tag.

    Cheers,
    Steven Clift
    Please reply to: clift <at> publicus.net

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    Vikas | 27 Jun 2006 16:57
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    www.infoabtdeals.com

    I have developed a deals aggregator site using RSSLib and would like
    your comments and feedback on it.

    The site can be found at: http://www.infoabtdeals.com 

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    zirgleratbag | 25 Apr 2006 12:48
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    RSS Questions from a novice

    Hi there,

I was hoping someone could help me with the latest 
thinking/information about:
1. What RSS standards/versions are out there?
2. Which is the best?
3.How much time and effort would it take to implement?
4. What is the lastest stuff available for aggregating news from 
sister sites onto one main site homepage?

Many thanks

 
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    Clinton Gallagher | 21 Dec 2005 20:25

    Re: Formatting skipDays and skipHours...

    
> Message: 1         
>    Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:21:25 -0600
>    From: "Clinton Gallagher" <csgallagher@...>
>    Subject: Formatting skipDays and skipHours...
> 
> The RSS 2.0 specification is ambiguous. The specification [1] 
> clearly states how to represent the values but fails to 
> indicate how to delineate a collection of values. Commas? 
> Spaces? Other?
> 
<snip />
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> <%= Clinton Gallagher 
> [1] http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/skipHoursDays#skiphours
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> Message: 2         
>    Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:13:03 -0800
>    From: Phil Ringnalda <philringnalda@...>
>    Subject: Re: Formatting skipDays and skipHours...
> 
<snip />
>
> <skipHours><hour>8</hour><hour>9</hour></skipHours>
> 
> I'll leave it up to someone else to do the standard 
> "mod_syndication is so much better specified" (without 
> mentioning that it is probably even less widely supported).
> 
> Phil Ringnalda

Thank you, I went to the web and found more comments and
implementation insights. Your comments regarding mod_syndication 
is making too much sense. 

Well Phil, do you know of any collections of "best practice" 
documents for developers to gain insight rather than picking
a bit and a byte at a time?

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    Clinton Gallagher | 21 Dec 2005 02:21

    Formatting skipDays and skipHours...

    The RSS 2.0 specification is ambiguous. The specification [1] clearly states
how to represent the values but fails to indicate how to delineate a
collection of values. Commas? Spaces? Other?

The skipDays verbiage also mentions Sunday as the last day of the week. Does
the order of days in the collection matter to those parsing the channel and
again what is the preferred delineator if any?

Finally, as a point of discussion which ahs probably been argued in the past
the specification fails to indicate how the channel for a restaurant or deli
for example may or may not indicate skipped hours on such and such a day(s)
while skipping other hours on this day and that day instead while skipping
days entirely on this day and that day. Clear as mud ;-)

I'll be posting this inquiry to several lists hoping to attract the
attention and comments of those who may have insight regarding how
aggregators and readers are responding to these issues. Perhaps a general
consensus will emerge as I haven't found any FAQs or "Best Practice"
documents yet...

<%= Clinton Gallagher 

[1] http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/tech/skipHoursDays#skiphours

 
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    Aleksander Slominski | 28 Jul 2005 20:48
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    Re: RSS Referencing

    On 7/27/05, Stephen Downes <Stephen.Downes@...> wrote:

>But who cares, right? After all, if we have the link to the content
>document on Blogger, then we have all the information we need. The
>author can simply write about the NY Times as part of the post
>content, and embed a link into what will eventually become the
>description. Problem solved.
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it seems you do nto care about the case when there can be multiple links 
to content?

what about referencing other places "via" link?

i think that it is more natural to put those links in body content 
(<description> in RSS) than to force in UI external elements

then let software extract links and put them into generated atom feed, ex:

<body><div xmlns="xhtml">I was ready <a href="nytimes">Foo</a> and <a 
href="bbc">Bar</a> and baz (<a rel="via" 
href="other-blogger">other</a>)</div></body>

generates links:

<atom:link href="nytimes" title="Foo">
<atom:link href="bbc" title="Bar">
<atom:link rel="via" href="other-blogger" title="other" />

if you have more complicated links relations i think it is beneficial to 
define superset of atom:link and allow more powerful relations in 
decentralized way - i did it internally in my engine by using QNames, 
for example to point to internal topic (which is like "tag" or Wiki 
topic): <a href="/SomeTopic" rel="s:topic">...</a> that is later 
translated to <s:link rel="s:topic" xmlns:s="my-space" 
href="SomeTopic"/> where s:link is superset of atom:link with redefined 
rel/rev and other attributes possible.

and for interoperability i can still of course generate <atom:link> in 
my atom feed (alas! i loose my custom relations as atom 1.0 has 
centralized rel content and does not allow namespace so for my own 
benefit i still include my own link el):

<atom:link href="nytimes" title="Foo">
<atom:link href="bbc" title="Bar">
<atom:link rel="via" href="other-blogger" title="other" />
<atom:link href="http://myspace/SomeTopic"/>
<s:link rel="s:topic" xmlns:s="my-space" href="SomeTopic"/>

best,

alek

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    Content-wire Research | 4 Oct 2005 05:38

    content-wire feeds riddle help

     
      Hi good syndication peoples
     
    you ll remember content wire, we started off about 5 years ago and several of you helped us pull our rss feeds together
     
    this happened in a variety of fashions, from spiders scraping html and converting to rss, to various other types of feed burners and news aggregators that you guys have been working on
     
     
     
    a couple of years later our software supplier created a built in feature to produce feeds, that we have been using ever since, in fact moreover, google, newsnow, factiva and various others use our feeds daily
     
    it turns out that our rss does not validate now due to a coldfusion propretary tag at the top, and this is preventing
    some of our users who are able to write ad hoc parsers to use our feeds
     
    nobody ever told me that was a problem before, and considering our feeds code is embedded in the system, it is not likely that i ll be able to upate the code until next upgrade
     
    first, I d like to ask all on this list who have worked with content-wire rss before to kindly look into the problem
    and update their entires where relevant, we have changed our feeds structure
     
    second, if someone can suggest a quick fix (I am thinking of options)  other than changing the code
    that would be appreciated, thanks
     
    www.content-wire.com/feeds/feeds2.cfm
     
     
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    Julian Bond | 15 Sep 2005 10:08
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    I wish these services produced RSS/Atom

    - Amazon wishlist for a person
- Amazon Lists
- Amazon Recommendations for one person
- eBay listings from one person
- eBay search results
- Craigslist listings for one person
- Craigslist listings in a category/region
- My Yahoo subscriptions for one person
- Google Search results

I bet you can think of others in the same vein.

Can anyone help make them happen?

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