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Robert Holtzman | 1 Sep 2008 02:00
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Re: checking news problem

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008, John E. Davis wrote:

> There could be any number of reasons for "checking news" to take
> several minutes.  For example, you could have a slow connection and
> many newsgroups, or the server could be overloaded, or there could be
> a network problem between you and the server, ...

The number of groups has not changed but the network, being a Cox
network.....God only knows!

> Are you reading the active file upon startup?  That is, are you
> starting up slrn with the -a option, or do you have
>
>  set read_active 1
>
> in your .slrnrc file?  If not, then try enabling this option.

The active file wasn't set but running "slrn -a" yielded

[holtzm <at> localhost]~$ slrn -a
slrn pre0.9.9-120/mm/ao
Loading /usr/share/slrn/slang/slrn.sl

Reading startup file /home/holtzm/.slrnrc.***Warning: Unable to find a 
unique fully-qualified host name.
             slrn will not generate any Message-IDs.
             Please note that the "hostname" setting does not affect this;
             see the "slrn reference manual" for details.

Using newsrc file /home/holtzm/.jnewsrc for server news.west.cox.net.
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John E. Davis | 1 Sep 2008 03:10
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Re: checking news problem

On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:00:50 -0700 (MST), Robert Holtzman <holtzm <at> cox.net> said:
>[holtzm <at> localhost]~$ slrn -a
>slrn pre0.9.9-120/mm/ao

I believe that the bug that is affecting you was corrected in
pre0.9.9-129:

129. src/group.c: An error was being generated when bogus groups were
     found causing slrn to exit upon startup.

Thanks,
--John

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Robert Holtzman | 1 Sep 2008 06:23
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Re: checking news problem[SOLVED]

on Sun, 31 Aug 2008, John E. Davis wrote:

> On Sun, 31 Aug 2008 17:00:50 -0700 (MST), Robert Holtzman <holtzm <at> cox.net> said:
>> [holtzm <at> localhost]~$ slrn -a
>> slrn pre0.9.9-120/mm/ao
>
> I believe that the bug that is affecting you was corrected in
> pre0.9.9-129:
>
> 129. src/group.c: An error was being generated when bogus groups were
>     found causing slrn to exit upon startup.

I'll wait for the Ubuntu devs to include it in their repositories.

In the meantime I solved my original problem. As I said before, Cox's 
outsourced news feed added almost 10,000 groups the other day, all empty.
I unsubscribed all of them but when I ran the L command today with * as a 
pattern I found a *huge* boatload of groups that weren't marked unsubscribed.
I don't know if I missed them before or whether the news feed snuck them 
in later but after I unsubscribed them news checking was back to nornal.

Thanks

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andrew | 1 Sep 2008 07:14
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Re: checking news problem[SOLVED]

On Sun, Aug 31, 2008 at 09:23:28PM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
> on Sun, 31 Aug 2008, John E. Davis wrote:

> > I believe that the bug that is affecting you was corrected in
> > pre0.9.9-129:
> >
> > 129. src/group.c: An error was being generated when bogus groups were
> >     found causing slrn to exit upon startup.
> 
> I'll wait for the Ubuntu devs to include it in their repositories.

Is Intrepid Ibex taking any more updates? Last version was -111:

http://packages.ubuntu.com/intrepid/news/slrn

There are directions for Ubuntu and the release version of 0.9.9:

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=475246

  Andrew
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Peter J Ross | 1 Sep 2008 14:33
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unsubscribe_new_groups - change default?

<http://slrn.org/docs/slrn-manual-6.html#unsubscribe_new_groups>

Recent reports of slow startup seem to be a result of Highwinds-Media adding 
~10,000 groups to their list. By default, slrn subscribes the user to all new 
groups unless the unsubscribe_new_groups configuration variable is set to 1.

I suspect that the majority of users would prefer new groups to be 
unsubscribed by default, even when problems like this don't occur, so I'm 
asking for the default for this variable to be changed from 0 to 1.

Better still, perhaps the variable should be replaced 
by "subscribe_new_groups" with a default of 0.

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Thomas Wiegner | 1 Sep 2008 16:48
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Re: checking news problem[SOLVED]

* Robert Holtzman (holtzm <at> cox.net) wrote [Sun, 080831 21:23]:

> I'll wait for the Ubuntu devs to include it in their repositories.

You could take it from my slrn ubuntu repository

Add the line

 deb http://www.foory.de/thw/slrn/ hardy/

to your /etc/apt/sources.list and run 
 sudo apt-get update
 sudo apt-get upgrade

In the repository there is just a 32 bit binary. If you are running
a pure 64 bit ubuntu install you can install and compile the source 
package, which is also not too compilicated. Add

 deb-src http://www.foory.de/thw/slrn/ hardy/

to your /etc/apt/sources.list and run 

sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get build-dep slrn
sudo apt-get source -b slrn
sudo dpkg -i slrn_0.9.9p1~pre16_*.deb

Cheers,

 Thomas
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Robert Holtzman | 1 Sep 2008 22:33
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Re: checking news problem[SOLVED]

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Thomas Wiegner wrote:

> You could take it from my slrn ubuntu repository
>
> Add the line
>
> deb http://www.foory.de/thw/slrn/ hardy/
>
> to your /etc/apt/sources.list and run
> sudo apt-get update
> sudo apt-get upgrade

WOW! That was great. It replaced slrn pre0.9.9-120/mm/ao with slrn 
pre0.9.9p1-16/mm/ao. What don't I understand?
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Peter J Ross | 1 Sep 2008 22:43
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Re: checking news problem[SOLVED]

On Monday 01 September 2008 21:33:28 Robert Holtzman wrote:
> On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Thomas Wiegner wrote:
> > You could take it from my slrn ubuntu repository
> >
> > Add the line
> >
> > deb http://www.foory.de/thw/slrn/ hardy/
> >
> > to your /etc/apt/sources.list and run
> > sudo apt-get update
> > sudo apt-get upgrade
>
> WOW! That was great. It replaced slrn pre0.9.9-120/mm/ao with slrn
> pre0.9.9p1-16/mm/ao. What don't I understand?

You don't understand "p1", which I think means "preview one". You're using the 
16th updated version after 0.9.9, not the 120th updated version *before* 
0.9.9.

You now have the latest available version of slrn.

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Robert Holtzman | 2 Sep 2008 00:14
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Re: checking news problem[SOLVED]

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Peter J Ross wrote:

> On Monday 01 September 2008 21:33:28 Robert Holtzman wrote:
>>
>> WOW! That was great. It replaced slrn pre0.9.9-120/mm/ao with slrn
>> pre0.9.9p1-16/mm/ao. What don't I understand?
>
> You don't understand "p1", which I think means "preview one". You're using the
> 16th updated version after 0.9.9, not the 120th updated version *before*
> 0.9.9.
>
> You now have the latest available version of slrn.

Oh, said he blushing. Thanks.

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Sven Guckes | 2 Sep 2008 04:55
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Re: unsubscribe_new_groups - change default?

* Peter J Ross <peadar.ruadh <at> gmail.com> [2008-09-01 14:41]:
> <http://slrn.org/docs/slrn-manual-6.html#unsubscribe_new_groups>
>
> Recent reports of slow startup seem to be a result of Highwinds-Media adding
> ~10,000 groups to their list. By default, slrn subscribes the user to all new
> groups unless the unsubscribe_new_groups configuration variable is set to 1.
>
> I suspect that the majority of users would prefer new groups to be
> unsubscribed by default, even when problems like this don't occur, so I'm
> asking for the default for this variable to be changed from 0 to 1.
>
> Better still, perhaps the variable should be replaced
> by "subscribe_new_groups" with a default of 0.

seconded!

Sven

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