Re: slrn 0.9.8.0 & replacing slang on RH

Hi!

Keith <n6jpa_spam <at> attbi.com> wrote:

>  A short question on rebuilding and replacing the slang package
> on RH 7.2. What is the best way to remove the RH supplied package
> without screwing up the dependences and other packages on RH? 

One clean way I am aware of is to get RedHat's Source RPM, remove all
offending patches from the spec file, change the revision number (to
something unique, like KEITH1), re-build the package and replace the
existing one using rpm -U. Details about this can probably be found in
the documentation of rpm.

Kind regards,
    Thomas Schultz
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Re: slrn 0.9.8.0 & replacing slang on RH

* Keith (n6jpa_spam <at> attbi.com) wrote:

>  I just downloaded and built slrn p11 with RH7.2 with the RH patched 
> slang library and had no problems building it and running it
>  A short question on rebuilding and replacing the slang package
> on RH 7.2. What is the best way to remove the RH supplied package
> without screwing up the dependences and other packages on RH? 
> When I attempted to remove it I get warnings about dozens of other 
> packages depending on the slang library. I want to build slang from 
> source, remove the RH slang RPM package and then install slang. 

There is a peice of software that does away with RPM and all of its
problems. You can get it at www.slackware.com. :)

Phil

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Re: slrn 0.9.8.0 & replacing slang on RH

On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 02:30:02PM +0100, Phil Jackson wrote:
> * Keith (n6jpa_spam <at> attbi.com) wrote:
>  
> >  I just downloaded and built slrn p11 with RH7.2 with the RH patched 
> > slang library and had no problems building it and running it
> >  A short question on rebuilding and replacing the slang package
> > on RH 7.2. What is the best way to remove the RH supplied package
> > without screwing up the dependences and other packages on RH? 
> > When I attempted to remove it I get warnings about dozens of other 
> > packages depending on the slang library. I want to build slang from 
> > source, remove the RH slang RPM package and then install slang. 
> 
> There is a peice of software that does away with RPM and all of its
> problems. You can get it at www.slackware.com. :)
> 

Which one? rmp2tgz(does not work with packages from pld)? rpm2cpio? 
rpm2bz(is there?)?

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Re: slrn 0.9.8.0 & replacing slang on RH

Hi!

Neo Sze Wee <neoszewee <at> gmx.net> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 03, 2002 at 02:30:02PM +0100, Phil Jackson wrote:
>> There is a peice of software that does away with RPM and all of its
>> problems. You can get it at www.slackware.com. :)
> Which one? rmp2tgz(does not work with packages from pld)? rpm2cpio? 
> rpm2bz(is there?)?

As I understood it, his posting suggested moving from an RPM-based
distribution to Slackware. Please don't start a distribution war on
slrn-user, though.

Kind regards,
   Thomas Schultz
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Re: read articles

Tony Tung wrote:
> An alternative way is to retrieve just the unread articles, and then do a
> thread expansion (alt-1 alt-p) on each article.  Is this possible with
> the current set of macro functions?

Possible but retreiving the unread articles is tricky because of scoring and
other macros people run on group entrance.  Check out the attached macro.

% faq3-2-5() will retreive a thread for all unread articles in the current
% news group.
% 
% Copyright 2002 J.B. Nicholson-Owens
% License: GNU GPL
% 
% This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or
% modify it under the terms of the GNU General Public License
% as published by the Free Software Foundation; either version 2
% of the License, or (at your option) any later version.
% 
% This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful,
% but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
% MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the
% GNU General Public License for more details.
% 
% You should have received a copy of the GNU General Public License
% along with this program; if not, write to the Free Software
% Foundation, Inc., 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA  02111-1307, USA.
% 
% J.B. Nicholson-Owens can be contacted at jbn <at> forestfield.org
% 

Re: read articles

J.B. Nicholson-Owens wrote:
> %    definekey article faq325 "%"

Sorry, this should be "setkey" not "definekey".

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status indicators

i'd like to see an indicator on how slrn
is currently showing the articles, ie
i want info on the following values:

  header  - all or weeded

  empty   - all or squeezed
  quoted  - all or collapsed
  width   - all (wrapped) or truncated

  sig     - all or none

as indicators i'd use an uppercase letter
when *ALL* of the date can be seen -
and a lowercase letter when the
information is only partly shown.

my default would be shown on screen
with the following indicators:

  heQWS

i hope this can be done with slang -
can you guys help me there?

and, yes, i think these indicators are
nice for newbies and for screenshots. 

Sven

Re: status indicators

Sven Guckes wrote:
>   header  - all or weeded

This seems easy--headers_hidden_mode() tracks this.

>   empty   - all or squeezed

I don't know what this means.  Are you talking about squeezing blank lines
like less(1) (and other pagers I'm sure) can do?

>   quoted  - all or collapsed

Trickier, but possible I think.  Off the top of my head I can't think of any
intrinsic or slrn variable that directly corresponds to this, so I think
this will involve comparing the displayed article to the downloaded article.

>   width   - all (wrapped) or truncated

In what way does slrn truncate the displayed width of an article?  Or do you
mean something else here?

>   sig     - all or none

That's easy too--get_variable_value("hide_signature") reflects whether a
signature is currently being hidden.

> as indicators i'd use an uppercase letter
> when *ALL* of the date can be seen -
> and a lowercase letter when the
> information is only partly shown.

Re: SLRN 0.9.7.4 and S-Lang 1.4.5 build problem

Okay, problem solved - it was staring me in the face
all along (as these kind of things do).  I comes
down to my not being familiar with autoconf:

I wrote:
> ./configure --prefix=$HOME \
>  --with-slang-library=$HOME/lib/libslang.so \
>  --with-slang-includes=$HOME/include \
>  --with-ssl=/opt/local/ssl --enable-hardcode-libs

Which is just plain wrong.  The --with-slange-library
specifies the directory containing the library, not
the library itself.   I truss'd the src/chkslang
binary and watched it try to stat
$HOME/lib/libslang.so/libslang.so, which makes it
pretty obvious.  As it happens it means that the
--enable-hardcode-libs is now superfluous as
LD_LIBRARY_PATH is being respected in the end
(but I was putting in a bogus entry so it found
the following system-wide/old version of slang).

Cheers,

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Re: status indicators

My mistake--the documentation looks like this is already in slrn with
art_status_line.

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