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ITI | 4 May 2009 14:12
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Opennms installation from source on solaris 9


Hi

Building opennms on solaris 9 (sparc edition)

Build is complete
Postgress is running
Webapp is served by tomcat on port 9090 and is running

when starting opennms /usr/local/opennms/bin/opennms -v start

i get error message:

Starting OpenNMS: Error invoking status command: java.net.SocketException: Unexpected end of file from server
Unknown value return from doStatus: 1
failed

in controller.log i see

2009-05-04 13:59:24,755 DEBUG [Main] OpenNMS.Manager.org.opennms.netmgt.config.ServiceConfigFactory: ServiceConfigFactory.init: config file path /usr/local/opennms/etc/service-configuration.xml
2009-05-04 13:59:27,397 ERROR [Main] OpenNMS.Manager.org.opennms.netmgt.vmmgr.Controller: Error invoking status command: java.net.SocketException: Unexpected end of file from server
java.net.SocketException: Unexpected end of file from server
        at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTPHeader(HttpClient.java:741)
        at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTP(HttpClient.java:604)
        at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTPHeader(HttpClient.java:738)
        at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTP(HttpClient.java:604)
        at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(HttpURLConnection.java:961)
        at org.opennms.netmgt.vmmgr.StatusGetter.queryStatus(StatusGetter.java:149)
        at org.opennms.netmgt.vmmgr.Controller.status(Controller.java:221)
        at org.opennms.netmgt.vmmgr.Controller.main(Controller.java:173)
        at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
        at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
        at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
        at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:585)
        at org.opennms.bootstrap.Bootstrap$3.run(Bootstrap.java:368)
        at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)


anyone any idea? I don't find anything usefull on the net and I'm out of options.


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Tarus Balog | 6 May 2009 03:16
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Re: Opennms installation from source on solaris 9


On May 4, 2009, at 8:12 AM, ITI <at> kbclease.be wrote:

> Building opennms on solaris 9 (sparc edition)

OpenNMS Version?

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youcef belattaf | 13 May 2009 11:52
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OpenNMS and JMX

Hi everybody,

I'm a newbie to OpenNMS. I'm trying to develop a monitoring solution for a J2EE platfrom. Naturally, I'm using JMX a lot. By searching in the web that OpenNMS offers a support for JMX. I've some questions about this :
- I'd like to know if OpenNMS just collects JMX information or can also calls the "sets methods" of JMX MBeans
- Does OpenNMS has a support of JSR 262 (Web Service connectors) ?

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youcef belattaf | 13 May 2009 11:55
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monitoring Postgresql using OpenNMS

Hi,

I prefer ask this question in another thread.
Does OpenNMS provide monitoring Postgresql server ? I want to get information about server availability, connections, ...

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ITI | 14 May 2009 10:11
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Re: Opennms installation from source on solaris 9


Hi,

Anyone any info on this? I don't seem to get this problem solved (tried a lot of diffrend things in service-configuration.xml but always the same fault)

ITI <at> kbclease.be wrote on 04/05/2009 14:12:35:

>
> Hi
>
> Building opennms on solaris 9 (sparc edition)
>
> Build is complete
> Postgress is running
> Webapp is served by tomcat on port 9090 and is running
>
> when starting opennms /usr/local/opennms/bin/opennms -v start
>
> i get error message:
>
> Starting OpenNMS: Error invoking status command: java.net.
> SocketException: Unexpected end of file from server
> Unknown value return from doStatus: 1
> failed
>
> in controller.log i see
>
> 2009-05-04 13:59:24,755 DEBUG [Main] OpenNMS.Manager.org.opennms.
> netmgt.config.ServiceConfigFactory: ServiceConfigFactory.init:
> config file path /usr/local/opennms/etc/service-configuration.xml
> 2009-05-04 13:59:27,397 ERROR [Main] OpenNMS.Manager.org.opennms.
> netmgt.vmmgr.Controller: Error invoking status command: java.net.
> SocketException: Unexpected end of file from server
> java.net.SocketException: Unexpected end of file from server
>         at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTPHeader(HttpClient.java:741)
>         at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTP(HttpClient.java:604)
>         at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTPHeader(HttpClient.java:738)
>         at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTP(HttpClient.java:604)
>         at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.
> getInputStream(HttpURLConnection.java:961)
>         at org.opennms.netmgt.vmmgr.StatusGetter.
> queryStatus(StatusGetter.java:149)
>         at org.opennms.netmgt.vmmgr.Controller.status(Controller.java:221)
>         at org.opennms.netmgt.vmmgr.Controller.main(Controller.java:173)
>         at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native Method)
>         at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.
> invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
>         at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.
> invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
>         at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:585)
>         at org.opennms.bootstrap.Bootstrap$3.run(Bootstrap.java:368)
>         at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)
>
>
> anyone any idea? I don't find anything usefull on the net and I'm
> out of options.
>
>
> Kind Regards,
> Joeri Scapicchio, ICT Operations
> Tel. + 32 2 722 74 35 - fax + 32 2 722 77 91
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Michael Seibold | 14 May 2009 10:38
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Antw: Re: Opennms installation from source on solaris 9

Hi,

there was a discussion in this list regarding "opennms fails to start
on solaris" with some longer explanations, maybe you find something
there - permissions to create sockets or something like this.

-Michael

>>> <ITI <at> kbclease.be> 14.05.2009 10:11 >>>
Hi, 

Anyone any info on this? I don't seem to get this problem solved (tried
a 
lot of diffrend things in service-configuration.xml but always the same

fault)

ITI <at> kbclease.be wrote on 04/05/2009 14:12:35:

> 
> Hi 
> 
> Building opennms on solaris 9 (sparc edition) 
> 
> Build is complete 
> Postgress is running 
> Webapp is served by tomcat on port 9090 and is running 
> 
> when starting opennms /usr/local/opennms/bin/opennms -v start 
> 
> i get error message: 
> 
> Starting OpenNMS: Error invoking status command: java.net.
> SocketException: Unexpected end of file from server 
> Unknown value return from doStatus: 1 
> failed 
> 
> in controller.log i see 
> 
> 2009-05-04 13:59:24,755 DEBUG [Main] OpenNMS.Manager.org.opennms.
> netmgt.config.ServiceConfigFactory: ServiceConfigFactory.init: 
> config file path /usr/local/opennms/etc/service-configuration.xml 
> 2009-05-04 13:59:27,397 ERROR [Main] OpenNMS.Manager.org.opennms.
> netmgt.vmmgr.Controller: Error invoking status command: java.net.
> SocketException: Unexpected end of file from server 
> java.net.SocketException: Unexpected end of file from server 
>         at 
sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTPHeader(HttpClient.java:741) 
>         at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTP(HttpClient.java:604)

>         at 
sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTPHeader(HttpClient.java:738) 
>         at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTP(HttpClient.java:604)

>         at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.
> getInputStream(HttpURLConnection.java:961) 
>         at org.opennms.netmgt.vmmgr.StatusGetter.
> queryStatus(StatusGetter.java:149) 
>         at 
org.opennms.netmgt.vmmgr.Controller.status(Controller.java:221) 
>         at
org.opennms.netmgt.vmmgr.Controller.main(Controller.java:173) 

>         at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native
Method) 
>         at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.
> invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39) 
>         at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.
> invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25) 
>         at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:585) 
>         at org.opennms.bootstrap.Bootstrap$3.run(Bootstrap.java:368)

>         at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595) 
> 
> 
> anyone any idea? I don't find anything usefull on the net and I'm 
> out of options. 
> 
> 
> Kind Regards,
> Joeri Scapicchio, ICT Operations
> Tel. + 32 2 722 74 35 - fax + 32 2 722 77 91 
> KBC Global Services NV, Group ICT (Dietele - CHW)
> Telecomlaan 8, 1831 Diegem, België
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ITI | 14 May 2009 14:41
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Re: Antw: Re: Opennms installation from source on solaris 9


Forgot to mention. Opennms version 1.6.4

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"Michael Seibold" <Michael.Seibold <at> Gek.de> wrote on 14/05/2009 10:38:17:

> Hi,
>
> there was a discussion in this list regarding "opennms fails to start
> on solaris" with some longer explanations, maybe you find something
> there - permissions to create sockets or something like this.
>
> -Michael
>
>
> >>> <ITI <at> kbclease.be> 14.05.2009 10:11 >>>
> Hi,
>
> Anyone any info on this? I don't seem to get this problem solved (tried
> a
> lot of diffrend things in service-configuration.xml but always the same
>
> fault)
>
> ITI <at> kbclease.be wrote on 04/05/2009 14:12:35:
>
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Building opennms on solaris 9 (sparc edition)
> >
> > Build is complete
> > Postgress is running
> > Webapp is served by tomcat on port 9090 and is running
> >
> > when starting opennms /usr/local/opennms/bin/opennms -v start
> >
> > i get error message:
> >
> > Starting OpenNMS: Error invoking status command: java.net.
> > SocketException: Unexpected end of file from server
> > Unknown value return from doStatus: 1
> > failed
> >
> > in controller.log i see
> >
> > 2009-05-04 13:59:24,755 DEBUG [Main] OpenNMS.Manager.org.opennms.
> > netmgt.config.ServiceConfigFactory: ServiceConfigFactory.init:
> > config file path /usr/local/opennms/etc/service-configuration.xml
> > 2009-05-04 13:59:27,397 ERROR [Main] OpenNMS.Manager.org.opennms.
> > netmgt.vmmgr.Controller: Error invoking status command: java.net.
> > SocketException: Unexpected end of file from server
> > java.net.SocketException: Unexpected end of file from server
> >         at
> sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTPHeader(HttpClient.java:741)
> >         at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTP(HttpClient.java:604)
>
> >         at
> sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTPHeader(HttpClient.java:738)
> >         at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.parseHTTP(HttpClient.java:604)
>
> >         at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.
> > getInputStream(HttpURLConnection.java:961)
> >         at org.opennms.netmgt.vmmgr.StatusGetter.
> > queryStatus(StatusGetter.java:149)
> >         at
> org.opennms.netmgt.vmmgr.Controller.status(Controller.java:221)
> >         at
> org.opennms.netmgt.vmmgr.Controller.main(Controller.java:173)
>
> >         at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.invoke0(Native
> Method)
> >         at sun.reflect.NativeMethodAccessorImpl.
> > invoke(NativeMethodAccessorImpl.java:39)
> >         at sun.reflect.DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.
> > invoke(DelegatingMethodAccessorImpl.java:25)
> >         at java.lang.reflect.Method.invoke(Method.java:585)
> >         at org.opennms.bootstrap.Bootstrap$3.run(Bootstrap.java:368)
>
> >         at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:595)
> >
> >
> > anyone any idea? I don't find anything usefull on the net and I'm
> > out of options.
> >
> >
> > Kind Regards,
> > Joeri Scapicchio, ICT Operations
> > Tel. + 32 2 722 74 35 - fax + 32 2 722 77 91
> > KBC Global Services NV, Group ICT (Dietele - CHW)
> > Telecomlaan 8, 1831 Diegem, België
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>
> e-mail.
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douglasstvnsn | 15 May 2009 21:07
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Other than yum

Hey fellas,

Running into MEGAFITs with yum.

Tried yum and rhel4 no dice.  Reloaded to rhel5. Reloaded yum.  I have attempted to clean all, reload cache and to reinstall it.

I am plagued by the puking of python continuously such that I cannot get yum to "yum".

Is there any other way I can install opennms?  Is there a tarball or a single RPM?


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Benjamin Reed | 15 May 2009 21:11
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Re: Other than yum

On 5/15/09 3:07 PM, douglasstvnsn <at> aol.com wrote:
> Hey fellas,
> 
> Running into MEGAFITs with yum.
> 
> Tried yum and rhel4 no dice.  Reloaded to rhel5. Reloaded yum.  I have
> attempted to clean all, reload cache and to reinstall it.
> 
> I am plagued by the puking of python continuously such that I cannot get
> yum to "yum".
> 
> Is there any other way I can install opennms?  Is there a tarball or a
> single RPM?

http://sf.net/projects/opennms/

But I bet we're better off trying to solve your yum problem; could you
describe it?

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douglasstvnsn | 15 May 2009 22:35
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Re: Other than yum

# yum install opennms
Loaded plugins: rhnplugin, security
Excluding Packages in global exclude list
Finished
Setting up Install Process
Parsing package install arguments
Resolving Dependencies
--> Running transaction check
---> Package opennms.noarch 0:1.6.4-1 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: opennms-core = 1.6.4-1 for package: opennms
--> Processing Dependency: postgresql-server >= 7.4 for package: opennms
--> Processing Dependency: opennms-webui >= 1.6.4-1 for package: opennms
--> Running transaction check
---> Package opennms-core.noarch 0:1.6.4-1 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: jicmp for package: opennms-core
---> Package postgresql-server.i386 0:8.1.11-1.el5_1.1 set to be updated
--> Processing Dependency: postgresql = 8.1.11-1.el5_1.1 for package: postgresql-server
--> Processing Dependency: libpq.so.4 for package: postgresql-server
--> Processing Dependency: libpq.so for package: postgresql-server
---> Package opennms-webapp-jetty.noarch 0:1.6.4-1 set to be updated
--> Running transaction check
---> Package postgresql-libs.i386 0:8.1.11-1.el5_1.1 set to be updated
---> Package postgresql.i386 0:8.1.11-1.el5_1.1 set to be updated
---> Package jicmp.i386 0:1.0.7-1 set to be updated
--> Finished Dependency Resolution
Dependencies Resolved
======================================================================================================================================
 Package                             Arch                  Version                         Repository                            Size
======================================================================================================================================
Installing:
 opennms                             noarch                1.6.4-1                         opennms-stable-common                4.9 k
Installing for dependencies:
 jicmp                               i386                  1.0.7-1                         opennms-stable-rhel5                  46 k
 opennms-core                        noarch                1.6.4-1                         opennms-stable-common                 50 M
 opennms-webapp-jetty                noarch                1.6.4-1                         opennms-stable-common                 31 M
 postgresql                          i386                  8.1.11-1.el5_1.1                rhel-i386-server-5                   2.9 M
 postgresql-libs                     i386                  8.1.11-1.el5_1.1                rhel-i386-server-5                   196 k
 postgresql-server                   i386                  8.1.11-1.el5_1.1                rhel-i386-server-5                   3.9 M
Transaction Summary
======================================================================================================================================
Install      7 Package(s)
Update       0 Package(s)
Remove       0 Package(s)
Total download size: 87 M
Is this ok [y/N]: y
Downloading Packages:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/yum", line 29, in ?
    yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 229, in user_main
    errcode = main(args)
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 181, in main
    return_code = base.doTransaction()
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 386, in doTransaction
    problems = self.downloadPkgs(downloadpkgs, callback_total=self.download_callback_total_cb)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 1108, in downloadPkgs
    remote_size += po.size
TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +=: 'int' and 'str'

---------------------------

yum update gives me this:

Downloading Packages:
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/bin/yum", line 29, in ?
    yummain.user_main(sys.argv[1:], exit_code=True)
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 229, in user_main
    errcode = main(args)
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/yummain.py", line 181, in main
    return_code = base.doTransaction()
  File "/usr/share/yum-cli/cli.py", line 386, in doTransaction
    problems = self.downloadPkgs(downloadpkgs, callback_total=self.download_callback_total_cb)
  File "/usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/yum/__init__.py", line 1108, in downloadPkgs
    remote_size += po.size
TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +=: 'int' and 'str'


 



-----Original Message-----
From: Benjamin Reed <ranger <at> opennms.org>
To: Installation questions and help <opennms-install <at> lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Fri, 15 May 2009 2:11 pm
Subject: Re: [opennms-install] Other than yum

On 5/15/09 3:07 PM, douglasstvnsn <at> aol.com wrote: > Hey fellas, > > Running into MEGAFITs with yum. > > Tried yum and rhel4 no dice. Reloaded to rhel5. Reloaded yum. I have > attempted to clean all, reload cache and to reinstall it. > > I am plagued by the puking of python continuously such that I cannot get > yum to "yum". > > Is there any other way I can install opennms? Is there a tarball or a > single RPM? http://sf.net/projects/opennms/ But I bet we're better off trying to solve your yum problem; could you describe it? -- Benjamin Reed The OpenNMS Group http://www.opennms.org/
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