[opennic-discuss] background Mamadomia - Re: .AAA: Open Internet Web for Young People to play and learn.
JP Blankert (Tablet, seamonkey <jpblankert <at> zonnet.nl>
2011-07-12 21:14:03 GMT
Underneath is a critical remark about Mamadomia. I looked up in whois
.eu (because of mamadomia.eu) and got following info. I will mail some
emails mentioned there to check out as well
BR,
Philippe
Whois Result
Domain
Name mamadomia
Status REGISTERED(What this means)
<http://www.eurid.eu/en/become-registrar/lookup-services/whois-statuses>
How to dispute this registration
<http://www.eurid.eu/en/eu-domain-names/disputes>
Registered 25 March, 2011
Expiry Date 31 March, 2012
Last update 25 March, 2011, 9:29 am
Registrant
Name Atanas Vahlinov
Organisation Atanas Vahlinov
Language Bulgarian
Address
Phone
Email
Registrar technical contacts
Name Phil Rittscher
Organisation DomainPeople, Inc.
Language English
Address
Phone
Fax
Email
Registrar
Organisation DomainPeople, Inc.
Website www.domainpeople.com
Name servers
sp1.domainpeople.com
sp2.domainpeople.com
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> -------- Originele bericht --------
> Onderwerp: Re: [opennic-discuss] .AAA: Open Internet Web for Young
> People to play and learn.
> Datum: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 10:55:51 +0200
> Van: Psilo <dns <at> psilo.org>
> Antwoord-naar: discuss <at> lists.opennicproject.org
> Aan: discuss <at> lists.opennicproject.org
>
>
>
> Mamadomia, TransTelematics, OpenDuma, Eco-Health Enterprises... WTF?
> I don't trust any of this.
>
>
> 2011/7/11 A. Freedman <transtelematics <at> gmail.com
> <mailto:transtelematics <at> gmail.com>>
>
> What we are talking about here is all about:
>
> Fundamental Priorities AAA, and Collective Open Social
> Responsibilities for the future of the Young People and the upcoming
> generations of young people, to have the fundamental freedoms to be
> Young.
> To have the freedoms to Interact, Learn and Play online as Young
> People in them own most natural way.
>
> What we talking about here is all about;
>
> That the development of the Young People is priority AAA,(in the real
> life) and that the Open IT, ICT, Telematics and TransTelematics
> online base developments for Young People must be a Priority AAA, for
> all Open Source, Core and Education developments and projects by any
> kind and mean.
>
> Young Internet (web, ect...) for Young People Development must be a
> Priority AAA.
> The Young People to have the freedoms to be Young, to grow and let
> grow as an Young People.
>
> That is all, it is all about Priorities, Duties and Collective Social
> Responsibilities for all of us;
> To Openup the way, to support, sponsor, develop and secure the future
> of the Young People Internet.
>
> The Open proficient people to guide, educators to educate, developers
> to develop, the open media to publish and distribute that as Priority
> AAA.
>
> Vahlinov Andy Freedman,
>
>
> On 7/5/11, Psilo <dns <at> psilo.org <mailto:dns <at> psilo.org>> wrote:
> > What are we talking about here?
> > What is this AAA project all about? When I read their message I
> thought it
> > was a scam!
> > What is SARZ?
> > What is the relationship between the two initiatives?
> >
> > Many questions...
> >
> >
> > 2011/7/5 JP Blankert (Tablet, seamonkey) <jpblankert <at> zonnet.nl
> <mailto:jpblankert <at> zonnet.nl>>
> >
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> I am much a fan of this .AAA project.
> >>
> >> Two things that come into mind:
> >> a) legal institutioanlisation.....are youngsters allowed to
> register a
> >> domain - or I would say: let's make possible.....but 18+ could
> creep in en
> >> act like 18-, and police is always happy to arrest youngsters
> (at least in
> >> Europe) under the pretext of 'hacking' though policepeople I
> think have my
> >> no means the intelligence to understand hacking. These kind of
> issues can
> >> better be dealt with upfront than afterwards.
> >> b) costs of Icann application are very high regardless the
> outcome, and
> >> chances of approval very low.
> >>
> >> I think opennic is a fine party to go with, as well as the
> >> SARZ/alternative
> >> Root Zone I chair, as well as Unified Root.
> >>
> >> Opennic has most experience with alternative DNS I think, but in
> order to
> >> see opennic domains one must change DNS settings in the PC.
> >>
> >> That is why we, SARZ, are finalising a browser in which an alt DNS
> >> resolver
> >> is built in (somehting Unified Root already has). And we will go
> on with
> >> search engine for alt names, something Opennic is further with (mngo
> >> search?).
> >>
> >> Unified root is in my opinion far away from a search
> engine.....their
> >> browser works fine but exists since 2006 I think and since then
> little
> >> progress has been made in the company. Decision and mgt. is made by
> >> investors and not technical people.
> >>
> >> I hope above is a fair representation. If opennic agrees to
> .AAA, I think
> >> they are the quickest to realise the domain. SARZ hopes to be
> quick to
> >> have
> >> browser and s-engine and is prepared to include opennic
> extensions to be
> >> visible in the browser. If opennic's mngo search is prepared to
> index
> >> .AAA,
> >> the circle is complete. But youngster need to be told what
> browser to use
> >> and what search engine - Internet Explorer (to see it) and
> Google (to
> >> search) will not work. IE and Google will work in case of Icann
> >> recognition,
> >> but that can take much money and many years.
> >>
> >> Maybe things can go in parallel, if people agree. Quick
> realisation by
> >> opennic and in parallel attempt to be Icann recognised.
> >>
> >> Best regards!
> >>
> >> Philippe (opennic & Sarz) July 5, 2011
> >>
> >> A. Freedman schreef:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Hi to All,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Re: Open Internet Web for Young People to interact, play and learn.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Just a short announcement to let you all know, that the Mamadomia (
> >>> http://www.mamadomia.eu <http://www.mamadomia.eu/>) initial
> Kids Internet
> >>> Project and the proposed one of the TLD extension (.AAA) is now
> pending
> >>> to
> >>> be incorporated as well within the Alternative and/or United
> Root Zoning
> >>> as
> >>> integral part of the TLD Global Intercloud TransTelematics
> Internet (Web)
> >>> for Young People to Play and Learn in the 21century efficient way.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Note: Please note that the current Mamadomia for Young People
> projects
> >>> development are in the evolutionary state of development is
> procreating
> >>> as
> >>> other ICT and Internet environmental mutations take please.
> Such as other
> >>> Open developments and initiative are in motion. For example
> NPO, NGO Open
> >>> Networking Foundation
> >>> (http://www.**opennetworkingfoundation.org/
> <http://opennetworkingfoundation.org/><http://www.opennetworkingfoundation.org/>)
> >>> corporate venture establishments and many others to be
> considered in the
> >>> Open Space Internet environment for the Young People freedoms to
> >>> Interact,
> >>> Play and Learn.
> >>>
> >>> Your input concerning above matters are of critical importance
> for the
> >>> Young People to Inteeract, Play and Learn within sustainable 21
> century
> >>> Internet (Web) environment for the young.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Andy Freedman
> >>>
> >>> CEO, Mamadomia OpenDuma Foundation
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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