Re: to Robin, Dennis

avo wrote:
>
> Hi guys,
>
> Nice to see ns12 come back up!!!
>
> And with it, fur. and geek.
>
> However, neither of those zones update properly due to the
> misconfiguration of:
>
> SOA master is ns0 but only ns12 serves the zone

I'll take a look at this later, I'm needing ot see what's wrong with
ns12 anyway.

-Dennis

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Internet Independence Day

I had an idea for an Internet Independence Day this 4th of July:

http://opennic.jdcomputers.com.au/InternetRevolution
http://opennic.jdcomputers.com.au/DeclarationOfIndependence

Everyone is welcome to edit these wiki articles; I plan to post the 
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Re: Internet Independence Day

On Sun, 1 Jul 2007, Adivino wrote:
> I had an idea for an Internet Independence Day this 4th of July:
> http://opennic.jdcomputers.com.au/InternetRevolution
> http://opennic.jdcomputers.com.au/DeclarationOfIndependence
> Everyone is welcome to edit these wiki articles; I plan to post the links 
> around the internet shortly, any feedback would be appreciated!

Well, since it is a "democratic revolution" which you propose, ... *my* 
sole vote is that you NOT take it upon yourself to represent OpenNIC 
publicly.

My suggestion is for you pursue this under your guise of FeeNIC, without 
mentioning OpenNIC in any way.

Thanks for your recent, and in advance for your continuing, contributions 
to the OpenNIC project, and for your kind and careful consideration of 
this, just one voice, opinion.

avo
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Re: Internet Independence Day

I don't wish to represent the OpenNIC alone. I was merely throwing this 
idea out there for the consideration of the rest of the membership. I 
will not post the links anywhere unless I have support from others on 
the OpenNIC team, and like I said anyone can edit my entries if there 
are objections to anything I've said.

As to why I'm not using freenic.org for this, I feel that dividing the 
altroot in two is unhelpful considering that our goals are essentially 
the same. I would like to contribute to the OpenNIC project and if my 
contributions are unwanted I don't consider it worth my time to try and 
start a second OpenNIC all on my own under a different name.

I wrote the wiki articles on a whim, as it seemed like a good idea to me 
and reflected what I understand as the general sentiment behind the 
project. If the others disagree I will certainly not appoint myself as 
Public Relations manager for the OpenNIC. I will wait to hear other 
opinions on this matter before I take any action (posting to digg, 
slashdot, etc.)

~salvia

avo escribió:
> 
> On Sun, 1 Jul 2007, Adivino wrote:
>> I had an idea for an Internet Independence Day this 4th of July:
>> http://opennic.jdcomputers.com.au/InternetRevolution
>> http://opennic.jdcomputers.com.au/DeclarationOfIndependence
>> Everyone is welcome to edit these wiki articles; I plan to post the 
>> links around the internet shortly, any feedback would be appreciated!
> 

Re: Internet Independence Day

Adivino--

Posting this on wiki is certainly a basis for starting discussion, and
is exactly what the wiki is intended for. My concern would be that
your approach is fairly US-centric (down to the July 4 reference), and
might not get the serious attention it deserves from our multi-national
audience.

My suggestion?  Rewrite your declaration, keeping the key ideals
intact (including, obviously, the concepts of freedom and democracy),
but not modeled after any particular country-specific document.

  --Brian

On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 06:23:55PM +0100, Adivino wrote:
> I don't wish to represent the OpenNIC alone. I was merely throwing this 
> idea out there for the consideration of the rest of the membership. I 
> will not post the links anywhere unless I have support from others on 
> the OpenNIC team, and like I said anyone can edit my entries if there 
> are objections to anything I've said.
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OpenNIC and .free

Adivino,

While OpenNIC maintains a full DNS root zone, please think of .free as a 
TLD operating within OpenNIC, just like .geek, .indy, .oss, etc. rather 
than as a separate or competing or "merged" "root" ...

Root is the '.' zone.
The "freenic project" is responsible for, and provides,  the 'free.' zone 
only. It still needs a root. OpenNIC can incorporate the 'free.' zone to 
provide a root with others provided by OpenNIC.

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Re: Internet Independence Day

I vote no for two reasons:
OpenNIC should be in a position of strength, not in the process of rebuilding 
itself before anything like this. 

4th of July and the text itself are very US-centric, something more 
international would be appropriate. An important UN related date would do, or 
something very important in computer science the 27th of September for 
example (initial announcement of the GNU project) 

P.S. I'm not too sure if anything like this should be done with humour or not 
(I assume calling websites an inalibale right is a joke) but since I don't 
find it funny I'd recommend that next time its written in the best traditions 
of engeniear speak: Short, to the point and near impossible to 
missinterprite. :)

Re: Internet Independence Day

On Sun, Jul 01, 2007 at 06:56:19PM +0100, Ben wrote:
> I vote no for two reasons:
> OpenNIC should be in a position of strength, not in the process of rebuilding 
> itself before anything like this. 

Agreed.  We are hardly in the position to declare much of anything
about the Internet, outside of our own world.

> 4th of July and the text itself are very US-centric, something more 
> international would be appropriate. An important UN related date would do, or 
> something very important in computer science the 27th of September for 
> example (initial announcement of the GNU project) 

Also agreed, to a point.  If a date is to be "picked", I don't think
it should be related to anything.  But that discussion can wait...

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Re: Internet Independence Day

Adivino wrote:
> I had an idea for an Internet Independence Day this 4th of July:
>
> http://opennic.jdcomputers.com.au/InternetRevolution
> http://opennic.jdcomputers.com.au/DeclarationOfIndependence

I'm going to cast a no as well, for the simple reason that we are not
really in a position to engage in this.  Pretty much what Aaron said.

-Dennis

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Re: OpenNIC and .free