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aksis | 12 Jan 2005 20:41

Juat making sure the list is working

Hi,

Its been a while since I have seen any activity on this list and I am unable 
to resolve opennic.glue so I just wanted to make sure the list is working if 
I send to this domain.

I have no problem resolving any of the opennic.glue subdomains.
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aksis | 12 Jan 2005 20:44

which domain should I be sending mail to?

Hi,

Its been a while since I have seen any activity on this list and I am unable 
to resolve opennic.glue so I just wanted to make sure the list is working if 
I send to this domain.

I have no problem resolving any of the opennic.glue subdomains.
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Robin | 12 Jan 2005 22:02

Re: Juat making sure the list is working

You're not _supposed_ to be able to resolve "opennic.glue".  There's no 
A record for that.

If I remember correctly from our email conversation, you can resolve 
"www.opennic.glue" and "zero.opennic.glue", right?  So it's actually 
working as it's supposed to.  ;-)

-robin

> Hi,
> 
> Its been a while since I have seen any activity on this list and I am 
> unable 
> to resolve opennic.glue so I just wanted to make sure the list is 
> working if 
> I send to this domain.
> 
> I have no problem resolving any of the opennic.glue subdomains.
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tabris | 12 Jan 2005 22:40

Re: which domain should I be sending mail to?

On Wednesday 12 January 2005 2:44 pm, aksis wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Its been a while since I have seen any activity on this list and I am
> unable to resolve opennic.glue so I just wanted to make sure the list
> is working if I send to this domain.
>
> I have no problem resolving any of the opennic.glue subdomains.
	Probably you can't send email to it b/c one of your relaying email 
servers doesn't use the OpenNIC root. so for you, yes, using the 
unrated.net for email is required. however if all relays in the chain 
between you and the list use OpenNIC, then you can use the opennic.glue 
addr.

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Robin | 12 Jan 2005 22:46

Re: Juat making sure the list is working

Actually, that may not have been you.  The email addresses are 
different.

I just can't keep track of anything these days.  ;-)

-robin

> You're not _supposed_ to be able to resolve "opennic.glue".  There's 
> no 
> A record for that.
> 
> If I remember correctly from our email conversation, you can resolve 
> "www.opennic.glue" and "zero.opennic.glue", right?  So it's actually 
> working as it's supposed to.  ;-)
> 
> -robin
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aksis | 13 Jan 2005 00:26

Re: Juat making sure the list is working

On Wednesday 12 January 2005 02:46 pm, Robin wrote:
> Actually, that may not have been you.  The email addresses are
> different.
>
> I just can't keep track of anything these days.  ;-)
>
> -robin
>
> > You're not _supposed_ to be able to resolve "opennic.glue".  There's
> > no
> > A record for that.
> >
> > If I remember correctly from our email conversation, you can resolve
> > "www.opennic.glue" and "zero.opennic.glue", right?  So it's actually
> > working as it's supposed to.  ;-)

I had sent an email about that, so it was probably me. I never got one that 
said that opennic.glue *wasn't* supposed to resolve, now I know. :-)

I was going off the info on the web page and majordomo: 

( http://www.opennic.glue/lists.html )
" To subscribe, send an email to "majordomo <at> opennic.glue" (or 
majordomo <at> opennic.unrated.net" if you're not using OpenDNS already)"

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aksis | 13 Jan 2005 01:15

Roll call

Hi,

I know I am pretty new to the OpenNIC as far as it goes and I would hope that 
people don't take this the wrong way. 

I need to know who is active on this list and in the OpenNIC project.
I would like to get some info and I figure this would be the quickest way to 
gather it and so everyone else would have it as well. I want to have accurate 
info so that I will be able to build a support channel on the freenode irc 
server network.

I am going to reply to this post and I am asking everyone who is active in 
this list to respond. I'd like to keep it simple and in the response I need:

Name:
email:
DNS ip(s):
type of server(s) (Tier1/2/3):
homepage:
TLD (if you are the admin):
Global Local (country/city):

If we already have a Secretary, clue me into who that is and I will send an 
email and request this info from him/her. If not, I would be willing to fill 
that office untill one can be elected. I'll go into more detail on that in 
another thread.

Thank You,
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aksis | 13 Jan 2005 01:24

OpenNIC Political Offices

Hi,

In democratic systems there are people elected to the different offices, and 
there are different responsabilities of each office.Common knowledge, I know. 
I am just setting the stage

Do we have these offices established and people filling them?

If so, could I have a list of contacts and list of duties?

If not, have there been any discussions on this topic as of yet?
Where is OpenNIC in its process of forming its core foundation?
Does anyone have any ideas of offices that should be created besides
Chairperson, Secretary, Treasurer, Board Member?

What would be the duties of each of these roles?
How would elections be done?

James 
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aksis | 13 Jan 2005 01:50

Re: which domain should I be sending mail to?

On Wednesday 12 January 2005 02:40 pm, tabris wrote:
> On Wednesday 12 January 2005 2:44 pm, aksis wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Its been a while since I have seen any activity on this list and I am
> > unable to resolve opennic.glue so I just wanted to make sure the list
> > is working if I send to this domain.
> >
> > I have no problem resolving any of the opennic.glue subdomains.
>
> 	Probably you can't send email to it b/c one of your relaying email
> servers doesn't use the OpenNIC root. so for you, yes, using the
> unrated.net for email is required. however if all relays in the chain
> between you and the list use OpenNIC, then you can use the opennic.glue
> addr.

I run my own mail server, between my server and zero.opennic.glue are there 
going to be any other relays? I was under the impression that that the 
packets would be going through routers, but not other mail servers, and that 
that is all based on ip address.

James

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Mysidia | 13 Jan 2005 02:11

Re: OpenNIC Political Offices

On Wed, Jan 12, 2005 at 05:24:45PM -0700, aksis wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> In democratic systems there are people elected to the different offices, and 
> there are different responsabilities of each office.Common knowledge, I know. 
> I am just setting the stage

Eh?
People are elected to offices in representative systems.  

In democratic systems, in principle a vote can be called for each and every decision/
action. Responsibility can always fall to the whole, while different parties agree to
implement certain decision.

Representative systems (like are common in governments...) vest authority and powers 
in individuals and deprive the group of power, since now the group's elected agents have
all the efficacy, which they are prone to expand in a self-serving way. 
Whereas democratic systems empower everyone and noone.

OpenNic is something like this, but you could also certainly say that there are "offices"
There is something like that of an office that involves the administrative function of
the root and each TLD.   This is set by the respective charters of OpenNic and each TLD.

You could say that there are executors, parties responsible for these things, these
are the administrators of the TLDs, etc.

They are not really offices in the traditional sense, elections aren't held every
N months for ".geek" TLD administrator, for instance.

Doing so would not in any way sensible.
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