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Dennis Carr | 17 Jan 2003 05:56
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OpenNIC Discuss: A question of charters

I can't seem to find a good model to write up a charter on the opennic
site, and there seem to be a lot of connections refused from snoop.  Is
something wrong?

-Dennis Carr
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Rhonda Hyslop | 20 Jan 2003 21:37

Re: OpenNIC Discuss: A question of charters

* Dennis Carr <ke6isf <at> spamcop.net> [20 Jan 2003 11:16]:
> I can't seem to find a good model to write up a charter on the opennic
> site, and there seem to be a lot of connections refused from snoop.  Is
> something wrong?

The .indy charter is hosted at www.opennic.indy; I'm not sure which
other TLDs keep a copy of their own charters.  Going to
www.opennic.<TLD> should get you information about that TLD though.

And I hope this means the mailserver is fixed - I haven't been able to
get mail to the list or to Robin (asking about the list) in ages.

-Rhonda
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Marcus Dennis | 20 Jan 2003 21:17

Re: OpenNIC Discuss: A question of charters

On Thu, 16 Jan 2003, Dennis Carr wrote:

> I can't seem to find a good model to write up a charter on the opennic
> site, and there seem to be a lot of connections refused from snoop.  Is
> something wrong?

I've had problems trying to access the scoop site for a while. Also, I
have been unable to contact Robin about a couple changes of IP address for
anari.null's nameserver.

(For anyone curious, anari.null is now up but only the nameserver responds
to outside requests; I'm collecting firewall logs to see whether my ISP
tries to portscan me before I bring major services back up... damn
ultra-restrictive AUPs... I'll probably go ahead and open things up
tomorrow, whether or not I find anything.)

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Robin | 20 Jan 2003 21:57

Re: OpenNIC Discuss: A question of charters

The mail server is still acting oddly sometimes.  It seems to just 
freak out and, though it's processes aree still running, it starts 
rejected incoming connections.

For that, and because the MySQL database server on that box has finally 
decided to wig all the way out, I'm in te process of shifting it all to 
a new machine.  Much fun.

Sorry for the lack of communication on this,
-robin

> * Dennis Carr <ke6isf <at> spamcop.net> [20 Jan 2003 11:16]:
> > I can't seem to find a good model to write up a charter on the 
> > opennic
> > site, and there seem to be a lot of connections refused from snoop.  
> > Is
> > something wrong?
> 
> The .indy charter is hosted at www.opennic.indy; I'm not sure which
> other TLDs keep a copy of their own charters.  Going to
> www.opennic.<TLD> should get you information about that TLD though.
> 
> And I hope this means the mailserver is fixed - I haven't been able 
> to
> get mail to the list or to Robin (asking about the list) in ages.
> 
> -Rhonda
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Pierre Abbat | 22 Jan 2003 01:28

Re: OpenNIC Discuss: A question of charters

On Monday 20 January 2003 15:37, Rhonda Hyslop wrote:
> * Dennis Carr <ke6isf <at> spamcop.net> [20 Jan 2003 11:16]:
> > I can't seem to find a good model to write up a charter on the opennic
> > site, and there seem to be a lot of connections refused from snoop.  Is
> > something wrong?
>
> The .indy charter is hosted at www.opennic.indy; I'm not sure which
> other TLDs keep a copy of their own charters.  Going to
> www.opennic.<TLD> should get you information about that TLD though.
>
> And I hope this means the mailserver is fixed - I haven't been able to
> get mail to the list or to Robin (asking about the list) in ages.

Apparently it is; I got the first message in several weeks, and as the 
messages stopping coincided with moving to a new laptop and copying 
.procmailrc but forgetting to install procmail, which resulted in half a day 
of bounces, I thought I had been thrown off the list.

phma
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Nick Cardflinger | 22 Jan 2003 05:28
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wow Neat! the mailing list is alive! now I Hope the forum and faq are up  
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Alan Hodgson | 23 Jan 2003 21:40

Re: OpenNIC Discuss: membersmail.com

On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 02:54:09PM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> I have a message in queue to jen <at> membersmail.com (it's an autoreply to a spam 
> which was in all HTML), for which the MX record points to dev.null, which has 
> no A record. Is membersmail aware of the .null TLD?
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I expect not ... the spammer more than likely has the MX record in just to
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Pierre Abbat | 23 Jan 2003 22:32

Re: OpenNIC Discuss: membersmail.com

On Thursday 23 January 2003 15:40, Alan Hodgson wrote:
> I expect not ... the spammer more than likely has the MX record in just to
> annoy people who try to mail them.

Well it looks like it isn't the spammer's domain - it's an available domain 
held by buydomains.com, and since the spam was "See J LO BLOW!!!!" which has 
nothing to do with buying domains, I think the spammer picked the domain for 
its undeliverability. I'd like to tell buydomains.com about the 
misconfiguration, but what's the whois server for .null?

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Alan Hodgson | 23 Jan 2003 23:22

Re: OpenNIC Discuss: membersmail.com

On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 04:32:08PM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> Well it looks like it isn't the spammer's domain - it's an available domain 
> held by buydomains.com, and since the spam was "See J LO BLOW!!!!" which has 
> nothing to do with buying domains, I think the spammer picked the domain for 
> its undeliverability. I'd like to tell buydomains.com about the 
> misconfiguration, but what's the whois server for .null?

Doesn't have one. 

/dev/null on unix systems is a bit-bucket, ie. a place to write data you
wish to discard.  Pointing MX to dev.null is a bad but probably effective
way to avoid receiving mail to a domain that you do wish to have an A
record for.  

Odds are very high they have no idea there is actually a .null TLD in use
anywhere.  If you wish to tell them about this, you'll have to explain what
OpenNIC is and that there is actually a .null TLD in use.

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Robin | 24 Jan 2003 05:13

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As the OpenNIC registrant of "dev.null", I can guarantee you they're 
not actually expecting to receive mail through that name.

Alan's right; I get _a lot_ of bizarre stuff on "devnull.net" and if 
more of the world used OpenNIC I expect I'd get even more coming in to 
"dev.null".  ;-)

-robin

> On Thu, Jan 23, 2003 at 04:32:08PM -0500, Pierre Abbat wrote:
> > Well it looks like it isn't the spammer's domain - it's an 
> > available domain 
> > held by buydomains.com, and since the spam was "See J LO BLOW!!!!" 
> > which has 
> > nothing to do with buying domains, I think the spammer picked the 
> > domain for 
> > its undeliverability. I'd like to tell buydomains.com about the 
> > misconfiguration, but what's the whois server for .null?
> 
> Doesn't have one. 
> 
> /dev/null on unix systems is a bit-bucket, ie. a place to write data 
> you
> wish to discard.  Pointing MX to dev.null is a bad but probably 
> effective
> way to avoid receiving mail to a domain that you do wish to have an A
> record for.  
> 
> Odds are very high they have no idea there is actually a .null TLD in 
> use
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