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Michael Patrick | 3 Dec 2002 02:18

Re: OpenNIC Discuss: Outbound email to ICANN domains

At 09:59 AM 12/2/2002 -0500, you wrote:

>I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this issue. At current, I
>am running this mailserver for anari.null and have no ICANN-visible
>domains. Users can receive email from non-OpenNIC sites thanks to the
>forwarder provided at simkin.ca, but for the moment responding is
>impossible as modern mail servers refuse email from domains they cannot
>resolve.

Its not a modern thing... its called paranoid mode (at least for sendmail) 
where the remote wants the A and PTR dns to match.  Your IP reverse is

43.118.164.24.in-addr.arpa. 64152 IN    PTR     net24-164-118-043.neo.rr.com.

so when the remote tries to match that against your HELO (probably 
mail.anari.null) it fails.  Since you can't do anything about your reverse 
(unless RoadRunner is nicer than AT&T) you need to modify your HELO line to 
be net24-164-118-043.neo.rr.com.  In qmail I would do this by setting the 
"me" file.  In Sendmail I don't know how you'd do it but good search terms 
are probably "Sendmail HELO change".

Michael

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Alan Hodgson | 3 Dec 2002 18:24

Re: OpenNIC Discuss: Outbound email to ICANN domains

On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 07:18:15PM -0600, Michael Patrick wrote:
> At 09:59 AM 12/2/2002 -0500, you wrote:
> 
> >I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on this issue. At current, I
> >am running this mailserver for anari.null and have no ICANN-visible
> >domains. Users can receive email from non-OpenNIC sites thanks to the
> >forwarder provided at simkin.ca, but for the moment responding is
> >impossible as modern mail servers refuse email from domains they cannot
> >resolve.
> 
> Its not a modern thing... its called paranoid mode (at least for sendmail) 
> where the remote wants the A and PTR dns to match.  Your IP reverse is
> 
> 43.118.164.24.in-addr.arpa. 64152 IN    PTR     net24-164-118-043.neo.rr.com.
> 
> so when the remote tries to match that against your HELO (probably 
> mail.anari.null) it fails.  Since you can't do anything about your reverse 
> (unless RoadRunner is nicer than AT&T) you need to modify your HELO line to 
> be net24-164-118-043.neo.rr.com.  In qmail I would do this by setting the 
> "me" file.  In Sendmail I don't know how you'd do it but good search terms 
> are probably "Sendmail HELO change".
>

This is not the issue.

The issue is that many SMTP receivers check to see if the sending domain
exists (by looking for an A or MX record) before accepting the MAIL FROM
command.

For servers who cannot "see" OpenNIC space, OpenNIC domains do not exist.
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Pascal Gloor | 6 Dec 2002 02:46
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OpenNIC Discuss: support on irc servers

for the ones interested, OpenNIC TLDs are supported on the following
Undernet IRC Servers.

    - Geneva.ch.eu.undernet.org
    - Atlanta.ga.us.undernet.org

P.

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Thomas Matysik | 6 Dec 2002 03:36
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Re: OpenNIC Discuss: support on irc servers


hrm... neither one appears to accept "vnc.paradon.null" as a reverse domain name.

On Fri, 6 Dec 2002 02:46:14 +0100
"Pascal Gloor" <pascal.gloor <at> spale.com> wrote:

> for the ones interested, OpenNIC TLDs are supported on the following
> Undernet IRC Servers.
> 
>     - Geneva.ch.eu.undernet.org
>     - Atlanta.ga.us.undernet.org
> 
> 
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Pascal Gloor | 6 Dec 2002 09:38
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Re: OpenNIC Discuss: support on irc servers

Well, it seems to be resolved (on geneva.ch.eu.undernet.org)

[root <at> minotor]-~ >nslookup vnc.paradon.null
Server:  localhost
Address:  127.0.0.1

Name:    vnc.paradon.null
Address:  202.37.90.138

[root <at> minotor]-~ >nslookup 202.37.90.138
Server:  localhost
Address:  127.0.0.1

Name:    vnc.paradon.null
Address:  202.37.90.138

[root <at> minotor]-~ >

try to reconnect, sometimes when dns takes too long ircd connects the user
without hostname. then you just need to disconnect/reconnect and at this
time the dns server has it in cache and the query in much faster and ircd
will be happy :-). Please retry, from my point of view, there is no reason
is should not work.

P.

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Aaron J. Angel | 8 Dec 2002 02:20

Re: OpenNIC Discuss: support on irc servers

Pascal Gloor wrote:

>for the ones interested, OpenNIC TLDs are supported on the following
>Undernet IRC Servers.
>
>    - Geneva.ch.eu.undernet.org
>    - Atlanta.ga.us.undernet.org
>
>  
>
Add gerrold.freenode.net (ipv6-only) and ... forget the other one ... to 
the list.  (-:

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Mooneer Salem | 16 Dec 2002 23:18

OpenNIC Discuss: NewsFactor article on Yahoo

Hello,

Someone pointed me to this link today:
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=75&u=/nf/20021125/tc_nf/200
76&printer=1.
It's the same article from NewsFactor but Yahoo somehow syndicated it.
Interesting,
to say the least. It'd be interesting to know how many people access
OpenNIC's site
from Yahoo's article.

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Aaron J. Angel | 22 Dec 2002 23:18

OpenNIC Discuss: OpenNIC Email from Legacy Users

Hi all,

Hope this message gets through.  Been having a tad bit of a hard time setting 
up email again, since I had to strip the server bare...(in short, mod_php 
crashed apache when compiled from scratch, so I uninstalled all the 
third-party packages and reinstalled the bare minimum...works like a charm 
now <-: ).

Anyway, I seem recall that in addition to the OpenNIC proxy there was an email 
service some kind soul offered for legacy root users?  Does anyone happen to 
recall the domain for it?  I can't find anything helpful in Google cache, 
unless of course I've just lost my mind (which is entirely possible)...

Thanks,
Aaron
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Karinu | 23 Dec 2002 05:56

Re: OpenNIC Discuss: Email Proxy

On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 10:07:55PM +0000, Aaron J. Angel wrote:
> Didn't we have an email proxy thing running for legacy root users?  If so, 
> does anyone recall the domain appendage?  Scoops still down, and Google 
> doesn't have much good cache...
opennic.simkin.ca
> 
> Thanks,
> Aaron
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Aaron J. Angel | 23 Dec 2002 22:29

Re: OpenNIC Discuss: Email Proxy

Karinu wrote:

>On Sun, Dec 22, 2002 at 10:07:55PM +0000, Aaron J. Angel wrote:
>  
>
>>Didn't we have an email proxy thing running for legacy root users?  If so, 
>>does anyone recall the domain appendage?  Scoops still down, and Google 
>>doesn't have much good cache...
>>    
>>
>opennic.simkin.ca
>  
>
Ok, that's what I thought but I wasn't sure...thanks.  And excuse the 
second email, I could have sworn the first's error fatal.

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