Discussion of Netatalk development and bugs

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Freek Dijkstra | 2 Feb 2004 03:16

Licence issue: linking with OpenSSL

Hi,

I'm an end user of netatalk. First of all, thanks a lot for the great work!
It's *really* appreciated.

I have a licence related question. I'm using Debian, and prefer to grab
netatalk using the appropriate package [1]. However, this package is not
allowed to link to OpenSSL (and thus DHX passwords are disabled) [2]. The
reason comes from debian-legal (don't ask *me*, I'm an ignorant user): "GPL
software linked against OpenSSL is not allowed in the main archive without
either a license exemption from the upstream author of the GPL package, a
change in the license of OpenSSL itself, or a clear legal precedent
sustaining the OpenSSL FAQ's opinion on this point." [3]

In short, the OpenSSL and GPL are incompatible (as was noted on this list in
2001), so you may link it yourself, but may not distribute it because the
GPL forbids it, despite that both licences are considered "free". (Well, at
least that's what people on debian-legal claim).

Thankfully, both the OpenSSL FAQ [4] and the GPL FAQ [5] give a solution:
Add an exception to the licence, stating that it really is OK with you to
compile the whole bunch, link with OpenSSL and put it in a package.

So, my question. Could you pretty please add the following statement in one
of your legal-blahblah files for both the 1.6 and 2.0 version? I just copied
it from gnu.org [5]:

"In addition, as a special exception, the netatalk developers give
permission to link the code of this program with the OpenSSL library (or
with modified versions of OpenSSL that use the same license as OpenSSL), and
distribute linked combinations including the two. You must obey the GNU
General Public License in all respects for all of the code used other than
OpenSSL. If you modify this file, you may extend this exception to your
version of the file, but you are not obligated to do so. If you do not wish
to do so, delete this exception statement from your version."

[1] http://packages.debian.org/netatalk
[2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=191790
[3] 
http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/debian-legal-200210/msg00173.html
[4] http://www.openssl.org/support/faq.html#LEGAL2 (last paragraph of
answer)
[5] http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLIncompatibleLibs

Thanks a LOT!
And sorry to have distracted you from your coding with this silly question!
Freek Dijkstra

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Remco Boom | 3 Feb 2004 16:31

Re: Word sharing problem with netatalk2.0alpha1

Hello Didier

Yes, in the cvs from 3feb the problem has vanished.
In all combinations of word and os that I have word works correct.
Thank you verry mutch.

Grtz,Remco

"We are living organisms on a tiny, mud-covered speck
  of fire that floats in an immense black vacuum."

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "didier" <dgautheron <at> magic.fr>
To: "Remco Boom" <rab <at> rsquare.nl>
Cc: <netatalk-devel <at> lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 8:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Netatalk-devel] Word sharing problem with netatalk2.0alpha1

> Remco Boom wrote:
> > Hello Guys
> >
> > When I open a ms word document on the server and start editing it and i
> > leave this file open, then when i open the same document on a 10.3
> > machine word does not give a warning that the file is already opened.
> > if a 10.2 machine opens the file the waring appears but 10.3 does not
> > give that warning.
> > It makes no difference if the file is first opened with a 10.2 or 10.3
> >  machine.
> >
> > excel works correct.
> > The same tests on netatalk 1.6.4 works correct.
> >
> > Can anyone reproduce this error?
> > Is this a (known) netatalk problem?
> No but it's one now.
> Can you test today CVS branch-netatalk-afp-3x-dev ?
>
> Didier
>
>
>

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Sam Noble | 4 Feb 2004 19:58

netatalk + afs

	Is anybody using netatalk in an AFS environment? A recent
version? What is involved in making this work?

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Andrew Morgan | 4 Feb 2004 21:14

Re: Licence issue: linking with OpenSSL

I'm fine with this change.  Could someone with CVS access already set up
add the extended blurb to Netatalk's COPYRIGHT file?  Unless someone has
objections...

	Andy

On Mon, 2 Feb 2004, Freek Dijkstra wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I'm an end user of netatalk. First of all, thanks a lot for the great work!
> It's *really* appreciated.
>
> I have a licence related question. I'm using Debian, and prefer to grab
> netatalk using the appropriate package [1]. However, this package is not
> allowed to link to OpenSSL (and thus DHX passwords are disabled) [2]. The
> reason comes from debian-legal (don't ask *me*, I'm an ignorant user): "GPL
> software linked against OpenSSL is not allowed in the main archive without
> either a license exemption from the upstream author of the GPL package, a
> change in the license of OpenSSL itself, or a clear legal precedent
> sustaining the OpenSSL FAQ's opinion on this point." [3]
>
> In short, the OpenSSL and GPL are incompatible (as was noted on this list in
> 2001), so you may link it yourself, but may not distribute it because the
> GPL forbids it, despite that both licences are considered "free". (Well, at
> least that's what people on debian-legal claim).
>
> Thankfully, both the OpenSSL FAQ [4] and the GPL FAQ [5] give a solution:
> Add an exception to the licence, stating that it really is OK with you to
> compile the whole bunch, link with OpenSSL and put it in a package.
>
> So, my question. Could you pretty please add the following statement in one
> of your legal-blahblah files for both the 1.6 and 2.0 version? I just copied
> it from gnu.org [5]:
>
> "In addition, as a special exception, the netatalk developers give
> permission to link the code of this program with the OpenSSL library (or
> with modified versions of OpenSSL that use the same license as OpenSSL), and
> distribute linked combinations including the two. You must obey the GNU
> General Public License in all respects for all of the code used other than
> OpenSSL. If you modify this file, you may extend this exception to your
> version of the file, but you are not obligated to do so. If you do not wish
> to do so, delete this exception statement from your version."
>
> [1] http://packages.debian.org/netatalk
> [2] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=191790
> [3]
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-legal/2002/debian-legal-200210/msg00173.html
> [4] http://www.openssl.org/support/faq.html#LEGAL2 (last paragraph of
> answer)
> [5] http://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLIncompatibleLibs
>
> Thanks a LOT!
> And sorry to have distracted you from your coding with this silly question!
> Freek Dijkstra
>
>
>
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所沢 | 5 Feb 2004 10:28

netatalk 1.6.4 in Solaris 9


I am going to install netatalk 1.6.4 in Solaris 9(sparc
Sun Fire 280).
The error was not displayed by installation.
However, it does not operate well.

Does it succeed in this combination?

Please give me advice.

//////edited file and comand//////

"/etc/netconfig"
----------------
ddp tpi_clts - appletalk ddp /dev/ddp
----------------

"atalkd.conf"
----------------
eri0
----------------

Solaris#make -v
GNU Make 3.80
 ....
Solaris#gcc -v
 ....
gcc version 3.3.2
Solaris#cd sys/solaris
Solaris# make -f Makefile.kernel kinstall
Solaris#../../
Solaris#configure
Solaris#make
Solaris#make install

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所沢 | 5 Feb 2004 11:25

netatalk 1.6.4 in Solaris 9


I am going to install netatalk 1.6.4 in Solaris 9(sparc
Sun Fire 280).
The error was not displayed by installation.
However, it does not operate well.

Does it succeed in this combination?

Please give me advice.

//////edited file and comand//////

"/etc/netconfig"
----------------
ddp tpi_clts - appletalk ddp /dev/ddp
----------------

"atalkd.conf"
----------------
eri0
----------------

Solaris#make -v
GNU Make 3.80
 ....
Solaris#gcc -v
 ....
gcc version 3.3.2
Solaris#cd sys/solaris
Solaris# make -f Makefile.kernel kinstall
Solaris#../../
Solaris#configure
Solaris#make
Solaris#make install

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