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Jeff Grossman | 1 May 2003 01:06

Re: Mailing list software.

on 4/30/03 2:11 PM, Matthias Andree at matthias.andree@... wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I have tried to get ezmlm-idx running together with Exim, which was a
> kind of a hassle and would require qmail patches; I then tried Mailman
> 2.1.2 on Postfix and everything went smooth.
> 
> We can have real bounce handling with Mailman 2.1 (VERP support) that
> avoids annoying users and saves the admin work, we can have digest
> support and automatically strip HTML. Given that it can be configured
> (subscription, unsubscription, user settings such as digest mode, digest
> type, disable delivery - for vacation - duplicate suppression) via mail
> and web interface, I'd think it's easier to use for some that have
> been confused by mail interfaces for handling their subscription status.
> 
> Although Mailman 2.1 isn't bug-free, it seems a lot better than BeroList
> at first glance.
> 
> Of course, Cornelius shall have the last word, my mail to him (with more
> detail) was just a recommendation.
> 
> I'll keep you informed.
> 
> Cheers,

Great news.  Thanks for the update, Matthias.

Jeff
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Frank Hrebabetzky | 1 May 2003 04:52
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Re: fetchnews doesn't connect

On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Matthias Andree wrote:

> Frank Hrebabetzky schrieb am 2003-04-30:
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> > Did that. Result:
> >
> > 	trying 200.176.2.164...
> >
> > After about 2 minutes I killed it with Ctrl-C.
>
> Then the problem is outside leafnode (Note that 1.9.38 is current.
> 1.9.19 is very buggy and should not be used.)
>
> Then you'll have to ask the operators of news.terra.com.br what is wrong
> with their news server.
>

In order to have a firmer base for discussions with my provider (who
doesn't provide support for Linux), I would like to understand what telnet
. 119 does. I only know telnet as a facility to use my computer as a
remote terminal for another computer. But with respect to a news server
and with that magical number as argument? Can it be explained in a few
words? "man telnet" didn't help me much.

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Pierre Abbat | 1 May 2003 04:15

Re: fetchnews doesn't connect

On Wednesday 30 April 2003 22:52, Frank Hrebabetzky wrote:
> In order to have a firmer base for discussions with my provider (who
> doesn't provide support for Linux), I would like to understand what telnet
> . 119 does. I only know telnet as a facility to use my computer as a
> remote terminal for another computer. But with respect to a news server
> and with that magical number as argument? Can it be explained in a few
> words? "man telnet" didn't help me much.

telnet connects to a specified port on the destination computer. If you don't 
specify a port, it uses 23, which is the telnet port. This allows you to get 
a shell on the computer and type commands to it, if it has telnetd running 
and allows connections from your IP address. telnet foo 25 connects to the 
mail port, and you can type "mail from:<bar>\nrcpt to:<foo>" and send an 
email message. telnet foo 22 gets you an ssh prompt, which you can't do much 
with, as it's expecting you to send something encrypted. telnet foo 119 gets 
you a news prompt, and you can send a news message if it lets you.

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Larry Jones | 1 May 2003 04:40
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Re: fetchnews doesn't connect

Frank Hrebabetzky writes:
> 
> In order to have a firmer base for discussions with my provider (who
> doesn't provide support for Linux), I would like to understand what telnet
> . 119 does. I only know telnet as a facility to use my computer as a
> remote terminal for another computer. But with respect to a news server
> and with that magical number as argument? Can it be explained in a few
> words? "man telnet" didn't help me much.

119 is the well-known port number reserved for news servers.  Telnetting
to that port connects you to the news server rather than the usual
telnet server.  When you connect to a news server, the news server is
obliged to send you a welcome message of some sort, after which you can
actually type commands and get responses back.  It's quite possible to
read news just using telnet, but it's not the friendliest user
interface.  In your case, however, it appears that the connection was
never established (telnet generally prints the "Trying" message when it
attempts to connect and a "Connected" message when it succeeds, but you
never got the "Connected" message).  That usually means that the server
machine is down, but you were able to ping it, so that must not be the
problem in this case.  The only other possibility is that something is
blocking the communication between your machine and the server -- have
you recently installed or reconfigured a router or firewall of some
kind?  If not, perhaps your ISP has.

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Frank Hrebabetzky | 2 May 2003 00:30
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Re: fetchnews doesn't connect

On Wed, 30 Apr 2003, Larry Jones wrote:

> blocking the communication between your machine and the server -- have
> you recently installed or reconfigured a router or firewall of some
> kind?  If not, perhaps your ISP has.

I didn't install a router or firewall, but tried to clean a little bit the
undergrowth of my linux distribution and redefined some local addresses,
but I am not very experienced in networking.

My problem is that the only relevant address for leafnode that I know is
the one in its config file and this one is correct. On what other config
files or parameters or variables depends leafnode?

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Matthias Andree | 4 May 2003 23:22
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[Leafnode-announce] Leafnode 1.9.39.rel released (STABLE)


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                 leafnode 1.9.39.rel has been released.
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Leafnode 1.9.39 has been released. It fixes a DATA LOSS bug (that is on
the server side) that falsely tells a downstream client that sends a
STAT command with message-ID (leafnode, for example) it had the article
when in fact it hasn't. This causes data loss on leafnode clients
talking to leafnode servers before 1.9.39.

Note that you can subscribe to a moderated (non-spam) leafnode-announce
mailing list or you can watch file releases at sourceforge below, if you
want to be notified when new leafnode releases become available.

Leafnode 1.9.39 is or will become available in .tar.bz2 format from these sites:

o SourceForge -- this site also carries patches to make 1.9.38 into 1.9.39
   http://sourceforge.net/projects/leafnode/
   http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=57767&release_id=157097
   rsync://osdn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/leafnode/

   Patch:
   http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=57767&release_id=157099

o Dortmund University -- this site also carries .tar.gz tarballs
    http://mandree.home.pages.de/leafnode/
    rsync://www.dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/leafnode-1/

o IBiblio/MetaLab (will take some days to pick up) -- has FTP sites
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Matthias Andree | 6 May 2003 00:57
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leafnode-2 snapshot

Hi,

I have released leafnode-2 snapshot to the usual location,
http://mandree.home.pages.de/leafnode/beta/

Nothing big is going on at the moment, just tiny bits and a forward port
of leafnode-1's post_anygroup option.

I am considering switching (or rewriting) parts of the leafnode-2 code
to/in C++ or something else (Python?) in the future, to focus on
functionality rather than low-level memory allocation coding. Nothing is
decided yet.

Anyways, here's the relevant ChangeLog excerpt:

2003-05-05  Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@...>

	* configure.ac, vsnprintf.c, xsnprintf.c: Change vsnprintf check
	along the lines of leafnode-1. Note that if your vsprintf function
	is borked, the check will later fail.  
	* Makefile.am, xsnprintf.c: Import xnsprintf.c test from
	leafnode-1.  
	* fetchnews.c: Implement post_anygroup option. Don't complain if
	upstream responds 441 435 to POST, but just pretend the article was
	posted successfully (it was a dupe.) 
	* config.example, config.table, configutil.c, leafnode.h: Implement
	post_anygroup option.  

2003-05-04  Matthias Andree <matthias.andree@...>
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Rakotomandimby Mihamina | 6 May 2003 08:15
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Hello, Bonjour , ...
When i have a look at the home page of leafnode ,
In the wekaness section i read "scales very bad"

What is "to scale" ?

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Pim van Riezen | 6 May 2003 09:51
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Oddness sucking large groups

Hello there,

My fetchnews seems to be hanging on a 220 server reply and stards
parsing the headers in the article that follows as more server replies,
stopping it from downloading any groups beyond the one that spawned the
220 reply:

alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.complete_cd: cannot parse server reply "220
3335214 <b969ov32c8h@...> article"

alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.full_albums: cannot parse server reply "Path:
dreader5.news.xs4all.nl!article.news.xs4all.nl!binary3.news.xs4all.nl!transit3.news.xs4all.nl!transit.news.xs4all.nl!news2.euro.net!pln-e!spln!dex!extra.newsguy.com!newsp.newsguy.com!enews1"

alt.binaries.sounds.mp3.jazz: cannot parse server reply "From:
debbytDIE@... (Debby -- The Binary Vixen)"

Can anyone guess what's happening here?

Pi

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Matthias Andree | 6 May 2003 12:25
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Re: leafnode-2 snapshot

Rakotomandimby Mihamina schrieb am 2003-05-06:

> Hello, Bonjour , ...
> When i have a look at the home page of leafnode ,
> In the wekaness section i read "scales very bad"
> 
> What is "to scale" ?

In this context, it means how good it handles increasing load (i. e.
hundreds of clients at the same time, many newsgroups). I am not aware
that someone runs leafnode on big machines with hundreds of simultaneous
readers; although I'd appreciate feedback from big irons, I cannot
recommend that for production at this time. Testing is fine though if
you share your findings :-)
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