Re: Re: Grab Your Psi

Pieter Barrezeele wrote:

>Why not just make a button for each slogan we come up with here? 
>Compare it with what the OO.o guys did:
>http://marketing.openoffice.org/art/galleries/marketing/web_buttons/
>
>Very likely we can just make some Psi artwork and superimpose the
>different slogans on top of it?
>
>Just _my_ 2 cents :)
>
>Pieter.
>

If your idea was to create buttons to have something we finally choose 
from i agree.
But if you are really saying that you want to have different slogans, i 
cannot agree.

Although i may be the rotten apple here i have to say: please stop the 
insanity of multiple slogans!
How can a slogan ever stay in ones mind if it is not always the same? - 
isn't a slogan made to exactly this?! :  stay in one's mind.
If "Psi" is already known like "Coca-Cola" is known in school i would 
have no problem at all to accept more slogans, - two or three.

What next? Different logos each time you visit the page? Every time 
another color?
Just because we cannot agree on one slogan does not have to mean we are 
doing the right by accepting all of them!

Composing... event should be optional

Hi,

Psi 0.9.3 is an excellent release, but I'd like to request that the 
Composing.. JEP-22 addition be an optional extra in the next version.

Emitting <composing/> events has minor privacy issues, or some people simply 
do not like the addition to the chat dialogue window.

http://psi-im.org/flyspray/index.php?do=details&id=374

If nobody feels like tidying this up, I can cook up a patch.

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Re: Composing... event should be optional

Alistair John Strachan napisał(a):
> Hi,
> 
> Psi 0.9.3 is an excellent release, but I'd like to request that the 
> Composing.. JEP-22 addition be an optional extra in the next version.

Visit Psi|Options|Advanced|Enable message events.

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Re: Re: Grab Your Psi

> Hugh! the Rotten Apple has spoken.

:p didn't know what piece to quote :)
I think MRAY made a point here.

But if I understand what Kev said, he is thinking like this:
Several icons can be made. But there is one that will be picked as the official icon. This one will 
be used on the side. The other icons might be listed on one of the pages of the website so other 
users can choose the one they like and put it on their website.

The official logo will always stay the same and will form the image of Psi.

Pintail

Re: Grab Your Psi

On 01 Feb 2005, at 2:04, MRAY wrote:

> Although i may be the rotten apple here i have to say: please stop the 
> insanity of multiple slogans!

We are not a company selling a product. I think having your 'corporate 
identity' in the form of one iconset and one color scheme for client, 
website, forum, ... is already taking it more than far enough on this 
front.

On corporate identities: Companies are not always as happy to have to 
stick to the same identity at each time. They _have_ to, for fear of 
losing clients. This means they typically keep on sticking to very old, 
legacy things, although they don't want to. An open source project has 
the freedom to _not_ do this, to be free in its slogans, to be free in 
its looks. It can even have funny slogans ! Such freedom also means a 
lot more freedom to progress!

I also would really like to see you come up with a slogan that everyone 
likes. Because this another thing that sets businesses apart from 
projects like this: they have dedicated people inventing this stuff, 
without having to compromise and to discuss the proposals with the 
complete userbase. People on this list can't even agree on a simple 
thing such as removing a never-used option from the UI, let alone make 
decisions like this.

So, as a counter movement, i ask you to stop the insanity to make Psi a 
static, rusted project.

cheers,

Re: Grab Your Psi

On 01 Feb 2005, at 8:55, Kris Vandebroek wrote:

> Several icons can be made. But there is one that will be picked as the 
> official icon. This one will be used on the side. The other icons 
> might be listed on one of the pages of the website so other users can 
> choose the one they like and put it on their website

The icon/logo is not even at question here, that one has already been 
decided on.
The idea was to have multiple buttons, same logo, but each at a 
different size and with different slogans. This way, you can have both 
funny, neutral, official, ... slogans, and you pick the one you would 
like to put on your personal webpage. If you don't do this, and people 
don't like your slogan, they will simply not put a button anywhere.

cheers,
Remko

Re: Composing... event should be optional

On 01 Feb 2005, at 6:25, Michał Jazłowiecki wrote:

> Visit Psi|Options|Advanced|Enable message events.

We should make this a FAQ, and make the FAQ more structured. But guess 
this is a thing for when the Wiki's here.

cheers,
Remko

Re: Re: Grab Your Psi

Remko Troncon wrote:
> On 01 Feb 2005, at 8:55, Kris Vandebroek wrote:
> 
>> Several icons can be made. But there is one that will be picked as the 
>> official icon. This one will be used on the side. The other icons 
>> might be listed on one of the pages of the website so other users can 
>> choose the one they like and put it on their website
> 
> The icon/logo is not even at question here, that one has already been 
> decided on.
> The idea was to have multiple buttons, same logo, but each at a 
> different size and with different slogans. This way, you can have both 
> funny, neutral, official, ... slogans, and you pick the one you would 
> like to put on your personal webpage. If you don't do this, and people 
> don't like your slogan, they will simply not put a button anywhere.

If you want different styles you should start different marketing 
campaigns. The linked page cannot be official and cool at the same time, 
so we loose the point of targeting different groups of people with one 
campaign.

Do we have enough workforce to start more than one? I doubt... We must 
decide.

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Re: Re: Grab Your Psi

On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 08:55:41AM +0100, Kris Vandebroek wrote:
> But if I understand what Kev said, he is thinking like this:
> Several icons can be made. But there is one that will be picked as the 
> official icon. This one will be used on the side. The other icons might be 
> listed on one of the pages of the website so other users can choose the one 
> they like and put it on their website.
> The official logo will always stay the same and will form the image of Psi.
This was exactly what I meant. We would like a primary button, for our use, that looks official and corporate
but if people want to link from their blogs, the having a choice of buttons isn't a bad thing I think. I can be
swayed to only having one button I guess, as long as it fits all bills. Having a series of different sized
logos is essential though.

/K
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On Tue, Feb 01, 2005 at 08:55:41AM +0100, Kris Vandebroek wrote:
> But if I understand what Kev said, he is thinking like this:
> Several icons can be made. But there is one that will be picked as the 
> official icon. This one will be used on the side. The other icons might be 
> listed on one of the pages of the website so other users can choose the one 
> they like and put it on their website.
> The official logo will always stay the same and will form the image of Psi.
This was exactly what I meant. We would like a primary button, for our use, that looks official and corporate
but if people want to link from their blogs, the having a choice of buttons isn't a bad thing I think. I can be
swayed to only having one button I guess, as long as it fits all bills. Having a series of different sized
logos is essential though.

Re: Re: Composing... event should be optional

On February 1, 2005 12:25 am, Michał Jazłowiecki wrote:
> > Psi 0.9.3 is an excellent release, but I'd like to request that the
> > Composing.. JEP-22 addition be an optional extra in the next version.
>
> Visit Psi|Options|Advanced|Enable message events.

Ugh.  Where, praytell, is that documented anywhere?  "Message Events" already 
has several meanings in Jabber.  I had it enabled because I thought it had 
something to do with, well, message events (as opposed to chat events).

Yes, yes, I know, I know... read the source...  my own fault really.

"Message Events" seems like the right phrase to use but what then do we call 
the actual message events?

-A.