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Peter Saint-Andre | 2 Jun 22:45
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[Fwd: [Operators] netops meeting / radar redux]


FYI regarding the next "Monthly XMPP Meeting"...

http://xmpp.org/xsf/XSF.ics

/psa

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Subject: [Operators] netops meeting / radar redux
Date: Fri, 29 May 2009 15:22:06 -0600
From: Peter Saint-Andre <stpeter <at> stpeter.im>
Reply-To: XMPP Operators Group <operators <at> xmpp.org>
To: XMPP Operators Group <operators <at> xmpp.org>

A while back we talked about the possibility of building a site like
http://www.mailradar.com/ but for XMPP. Florian Thiessen and I just had
a chat about that, so I figured I'd try to restart the conversation.
Perhaps we can have a groupchat about it soon? I propose to make this
(and other matters related to network operations) the topic of our next
"Monthly XMPP Meeting":

Date: Tuesday, June 9, 2009
Time: 19:00 UTC (check your local time!)
Place: xmpp:operators <at> conference.jabber.org
Reminders: http://xmpp.org/xsf/XSF.ics

If we have some discussion on this list before then, I will create an
agenda for the meeting.

Thanks!
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Peter Saint-Andre | 3 Jun 06:18
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Re: Jabber Login with OpenID


On 5/22/09 6:39 AM, Bernhard zwischenbrugger wrote:
> Hi All
> 
> I try to make a webchat with OpenID Login.
> 
> OpenID is not difficult.
> Using https://rpxnow.com/ for example makes it very simple.
> Also a Jabber Login using "Strophe" or and other BOSH Lib is simple.
> No Problem with that
> 
> But combining this 2 things is not easy at all.
> 
> If you have never seen openid, here is a simple login process:
> http://lamp2.fhstp.ac.at/~lbz/beispiele/ss2009/openid/
> 
> ejabberd provides the "auth_method: external" and it should be possible
> to login using openid.

That's SASL EXTERNAL. Typically it is used with a digital certificate
presented during TLS negotiation.

> The problem:
> 
> 1.) I don't know how to make the login. I have to send the TOKEN to the
> jabberserver, but I don't have a username or password.
> 2.) If I don't have a username, the jabberserver can't create a useraccount
> 3.) What to use as username? openid provides an "identifier" which seems
> to be unique - but thats not a good username.
>
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Jonathan Dickinson | 3 Jun 10:06
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Re: Jabber Login with OpenID

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> Behalf Of Peter Saint-Andre
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> On 5/22/09 6:39 AM, Bernhard zwischenbrugger wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > I try to make a webchat with OpenID Login.
> >
> > OpenID is not difficult.
> > Using https://rpxnow.com/ for example makes it very simple.
> > Also a Jabber Login using "Strophe" or and other BOSH Lib is simple.
> > No Problem with that
> >
> > But combining this 2 things is not easy at all.
> >

So what you need is some kind of SSO (Single Sign On) solution. Using OpenID from a thick Jabber client would
probably be *very* difficult (because it's intimately tied to the browser). It may be possible from your
side of things, however.

I haven't had the time to grep OpenID yet - but
this<http://www.windley.com/archives/2006/04/how_does_openid.shtml> came in pretty useful. You
will need to appropriate an OpenID implementation. This is a hashed out version of what would need to
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Peter Saint-Andre | 3 Jun 20:41
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updated XMPP services list


FYI, http://xmpp.org/services/ has been updated.

There are now two machine-readable files:

1. http://xmpp.org/services/services.xml -- this is the basic disco format.

2. http://xmpp.org/services/services.xml -- this is more complete data,
like the old http://www.jabber.org/full_servers.xml (including lat and
lon at the request of the Pidgin developers).

Enjoy!

Peter

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Peter Saint-Andre | 3 Jun 20:45
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Re: updated XMPP services list


On 6/3/09 12:41 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
> FYI, http://xmpp.org/services/ has been updated.
> 
> There are now two machine-readable files:
> 
> 1. http://xmpp.org/services/services.xml -- this is the basic disco format.
> 
> 2. http://xmpp.org/services/services.xml

Oops. That's http://xmpp.org/services/services-full.xml

Peter

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Bernhard zwischenbrugger | 3 Jun 22:51
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Re: updated XMPP services list

Hi

Is the list also available in XMPP univers?
A pubsub node?

Bernhard

Peter Saint-Andre schrieb:
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> On 6/3/09 12:41 PM, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:
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>> FYI, http://xmpp.org/services/ has been updated.
>>
>> There are now two machine-readable files:
>>
>> 1. http://xmpp.org/services/services.xml -- this is the basic disco format.
>>
>> 2. http://xmpp.org/services/services.xml
>>     
>
> Oops. That's http://xmpp.org/services/services-full.xml
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> Peter
>
> - --
> Peter Saint-Andre
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Dave Cridland | 3 Jun 22:55

Re: updated XMPP services list

On Wed Jun  3 21:51:37 2009, Bernhard zwischenbrugger wrote:
> Is the list also available in XMPP univers?
> A pubsub node?

Need an XMPP account? Just find one using our PubSub system. All you  
need to get started is an XMPP account...

(Yes, I am kidding, a pubsub node for this kind of thing would indeed  
be interesting at some point).

Dave.
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Peter Saint-Andre | 3 Jun 23:10
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Re: updated XMPP services list


On 6/3/09 2:51 PM, Bernhard zwischenbrugger wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Is the list also available in XMPP univers?
> A pubsub node?

If you join the meeting next Tuesday, you can volunteer to help:

http://mail.jabber.org/pipermail/operators/2009-May/000583.html

We will talk about starting a site for XMPP admins, kind of like
http://www.mailradar.com/ but for IM.

Peter

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Maciek Niedzielski | 3 Jun 23:33
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Re: updated XMPP services list

Dave Cridland wrote:
> On Wed Jun  3 21:51:37 2009, Bernhard zwischenbrugger wrote:
>> Is the list also available in XMPP univers?
>> A pubsub node?
> Need an XMPP account? Just find one using our PubSub system. All you 
> need to get started is an XMPP account...
How about SASL Anonymous?

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Andreas Monitzer | 4 Jun 00:49

Re: updated XMPP services list

On Jun 03, 2009, at 20:41, Peter Saint-Andre wrote:

> 2. http://xmpp.org/services/services.xml -- this is more complete  
> data,
> like the old http://www.jabber.org/full_servers.xml (including lat and
> lon at the request of the Pidgin developers).

Actually, it was an Adium developer (myself), not somebody from  
Pidgin :)

Thanks for the re-implementation! Let's hope this one will last longer  
than the one before it (or the one before that...).

I've already updated the URL and the parser in Adium, it will be part  
of 1.4.

andy

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