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Peter Tynan | 3 Sep 2008 06:17
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Gopher articles at Wikipedia

Recently a template (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Gopher_clients)
has started appearing on Gopher related pages at Wikipedia and the plain
simple fact is that a number of Gopher clients and servers are missing from
the template because they have no Wikipedia article. Perhaps a few members
of this list would like to help in making the coverage of Gopher software
offered by Wikipedia more comprehensive?
Peter

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Cameron Kaiser | 3 Sep 2008 06:42
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Re: Gopher articles at Wikipedia

> Recently a template (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Gopher_clients)
> has started appearing on Gopher related pages at Wikipedia

Interesting. Just appeared there, did it? ;-)

Whoever wrote the CSO article did a nice job of integrating the protocol part.

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Peter Tynan | 3 Sep 2008 11:08
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Re: Gopher articles at Wikipedia

2008/9/3 Cameron Kaiser <spectre@...>
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> > Recently a template (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Gopher_clients)
> > has started appearing on Gopher related pages at Wikipedia
>
> Interesting. Just appeared there, did it? ;-)
>
> Whoever wrote the CSO article did a nice job of integrating the protocol part.
>

According to the file history the Wikipedia user who started the
gopher template was a user by the name of Mabdul
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mabdul) - Once it appeared and I
(Wikipedia user Thefrood) noticed it I also added edits in order to
expand it.

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Cameron Kaiser | 3 Sep 2008 14:47
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> > Interesting. Just appeared there, did it? ;-)
> 
> According to the file history the Wikipedia user who started the
> gopher template was a user by the name of Mabdul
> (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Mabdul) - Once it appeared and I
> (Wikipedia user Thefrood) noticed it I also added edits in order to
> expand it.

That'll teach me to look at the file history. *feels stupid*

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JumpJet Mailbox | 4 Sep 2008 22:47
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Re: Gopher articles at Wikipedia

WebTV (MSNTV) still supports Gopher, and in Yahoo Mail, you can choose "gopher:" as a link type in mail
messages (along with - file:, ftp, http:, https:, mailto:, news: telnet:, and wais:).  
Most of those listed "clients" however are really multi-protocol http Browsers.  I really don't see any
of the dedicated Gopher Clients (see hal3000: 
http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw?gopher://hal3000.cx:70/1/Begin_Here ).
 

--- On Wed, 9/3/08, Cameron Kaiser <spectre@...> wrote:

From: Cameron Kaiser <spectre@...>
Subject: [gopher] Re: Gopher articles at Wikipedia
To: gopher@...
Date: Wednesday, September 3, 2008, 12:42 AM

> Recently a template (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Gopher_clients)
> has started appearing on Gopher related pages at Wikipedia

Interesting. Just appeared there, did it? ;-)

Whoever wrote the CSO article did a nice job of integrating the protocol part.

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Peter Tynan | 5 Sep 2008 10:45
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Re: Gopher articles at Wikipedia

2008/9/4 JumpJet Mailbox <jumpjetinfo@...>:
>  I really don't see any of the dedicated Gopher Clients (see hal3000:
> http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/gw?gopher://hal3000.cx:70/1/Begin_Here ).

That's because most of them currently do not have a wiki page and
while I'm sure I could through together some stub entries for them I
kind of figured that some of the people subscribed to this list would
be able to do a far better job for some of this software.

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Luke Ingerson | 5 Sep 2008 10:41
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--On 04 September 2008 13:47 -0700 JumpJet Mailbox <jumpjetinfo@...>=20
wrote:

>  Most of those listed
> "clients" however are really multi-protocol http Browsers.=A0 I really
> don't see any of the dedicated Gopher Clients

So do what Wikipedia wants and participate and put more information on the=20
webpage.   Surely having the Gopher entries correct and fully up to date is =

in the best interests of the "gopher community"?
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Roman Pavlov | 5 Sep 2008 19:43
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Yes, I upgraded to the latest overbite and noticed that everything 
displays correctly, just may need some manual setting depending on 
whether local browser default encoding is utf-8 or not (if it is not, 
one needs to explicitly set browser encoding for utf-8 text, and maybe 
vice versa, but I didn't check)

Mate Nagy wrote:
> Hello,
>> In fact, encoding of text files does not matter much as user can always 
>> download the file and view it with external program or explicitly set 
>> the encoding if browser supports it (any GUI web browser and lynx). I'm 
>> more concerned with gopher menu rendering, 'cause it can be presented by 
>> gopher client only and looks like no browser displays UTF-8 menus 
>> correctly and displaying 8-bit menus requires manual setup.
>  pls note that (after manual setting) newest overbite handles both
> menus and text content perfectly :) (tested with both 8bit and utf-8
> menus)
> 
> Regards,
>  Mate
> 
> 
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JumpJet Mailbox | 6 Sep 2008 04:05
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Re: Gopher articles at Wikipedia

I am not qualified.  I defer to the other more qualified persons who inhabit this mailinglist.
--- On Fri, 9/5/08, Luke Ingerson <l.ingerson@...> wrote:

From: Luke Ingerson <l.ingerson@...>
Subject: [gopher] Re: Gopher articles at Wikipedia
To: gopher@...
Date: Friday, September 5, 2008, 4:41 AM

--On 04 September 2008 13:47 -0700 JumpJet Mailbox
<jumpjetinfo@...>=20
wrote:

>  Most of those listed
> "clients" however are really multi-protocol http Browsers.=A0 I
really
> don't see any of the dedicated Gopher Clients

So do what Wikipedia wants and participate and put more information on the=20
webpage.   Surely having the Gopher entries correct and fully up to date is =

in the best interests of the "gopher community"?
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Cameron Kaiser | 6 Sep 2008 06:51
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> I am not qualified.

That has never stopped *anyone* on Wikipedia. ;-)

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