1 Apr 2007 01:45
1 Apr 2007 06:54
Re: Port-a-Goph for PalmOS
> Whats the status of Port-a-Goph for PalmOS? Last I heard it was in the > final testing stages. It's in a holding pattern pending changes to the networking library it uses. No ETA. -- -- --------------------------------- personal: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ --- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@... -- When two elephants fight, the grass and trees suffer. -- African proverb ---
4 Apr 2007 18:04
5 Apr 2007 05:03
Submit your gopher related sites to dmoz
Hi all, The gopher category of the Open Directory Project has a new editor in my humble person. I'm willing to expand it but I need your help. Please visit http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Gopher/ and submit your site or sites you like. No matter if it is a web, gopher or even ftp site, if it provides relevant and useful content about gopher it will be added. To learn more about how to suggest a site to the Open Directory follow this link: http://www.dmoz.org/add.html Of course we can discuss about proposals here, but it would be much better if you could submit them directly on dmoz anyway: my English is not er... perfect ;) , and if it's your site, you're the one who can describe it best. You can also suggest a better description, just click on "update listing" on the top of the screen. Suggestions about the description and the FAQ would also be more than welcome. Thanks in advance.
6 Apr 2007 04:16
Alternative Gopher Access
Most persons are aware of the Gopher via HTTP gateways from such websites as http://gopher.floodgap.com/gopher/index.html and http://quux.org:70/ However, unless you viewed gopher://home.jumpjet.info/hh\access.htm recently, you may not have known that there are sites that let you access Gopher without either a Gopher Client or a Web Browser! If you have Telnet access you can access Gopher via a Telneted Public Lynx Browser: telnet://lynx.scramworks.net/ You will be asked to enter your Email address (their method of preventing abuse), and then your terminal type (I suggest typing "VT100"). You will now have full command of a Lynx Browser (ver 2.8.6 dev 13), which will let you explore both Gopher and web pages. Alternatively there is a slower method. If you have Email, you can have the output of a Gopher or web URL emailed to you. Send Email to: www4mail@... Leave the subject blank. In the body type two lines. In the first line just enter a "carriage return", and in the second line type GET and the URL: ( GET gopher://home.jumpjet.info ). The message that comes back to your Inbox will look something like this: ===================================================== Gopher Menu --> Welcome to JumpJet <--(Continue reading)
6 Apr 2007 07:03
updates to Veronica-2 and VISHNU
Some overhauls and an annoying bug in the relevancy logic have been finally completed/fixed. The robot will be starting to make its rounds again, and you should notice some improvement in result relevancy without much loss of performance. -- -- --------------------------------- personal: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ --- Cameron Kaiser * Floodgap Systems * www.floodgap.com * ckaiser@... -- Let us live! Let us love! Let us share our darkest secrets! ... you first. -
10 Apr 2007 05:25
Jugtail formerly Jughead
Hi all, I hope everyone had a great Easter. First I saw in the archives of emails at quux that what I am announcing already was by Benn Newman some time ago. I never saw it neither did a few others so, I'll mention it again. (thanks Benn btw) I would like to announce Jugtail, some of you have no doubt noticed it on: http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Gopher/ It is the GPL'd release of Jughead (name changed for existing trademark issues). Personally I, for many reasons, am quite happy to see this. Back in 04 when I was trying to use Jughead to do things it wasn't really designed to do I found Mr Jone's new email address. In addition to asking a few questions and sending him back his original email questionnaire from Jughead I mentioned maybe porting to FreeBSD and perhaps even GPL. He was suprised to find people still used gopher and surely didn't expect to get his questionnaire back so many years later :) It was a short time after that I had the pleasure of emailing back and forth a bit with RMS and metioned to him that I thought it would be neat if Jughead was a part of the group of GPL'd software. Historically important, made back when gopher was "it" and further under the license of The University of Utah, which isnt a free software but came close, involving Archie Comics as well, a large corporate entity. After all if one considered Archie, Jughead and Veronica, the search engine equivalents of the first stone wheels, then we ought to set a few next to a new Hoosier race tire yes? :) To my suprise Mr Stallman ask for Jonzys email address and just like that emailed him (I was delighted to be cc'd). How neat, for here was two people I really do consider hero's of mine discussing things like emacs and gcc and jughead and all :) As it was, it took a long time and alot of work, waiting and effort by people working behind the scenes, all of us unaware (myself included as my only involvment was to occasionally pester and ask if it was "done yet?"). And now its preserved and free and now no matter what for ever salvaged from being lost. I think thats just great!(Continue reading)
10 Apr 2007 14:59
Re: Jugtail formerly Jughead
On 09/04/07, Chris <chris@...> wrote: > > Hi all, > I hope everyone had a great Easter. > First I saw in the archives of emails at quux that what I am announcing already was by Benn Newman some time ago. I never saw it neither did a few others so, I'll mention it again. > (thanks Benn btw) > > I would like to announce Jugtail, some of you have no doubt noticed it on: > http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Gopher/ > > It is the GPL'd release of Jughead (name changed for existing trademark issues). > Personally I, for many reasons, am quite happy to see this. Back in 04 when I was trying to use Jughead to do things it wasn't really designed to do I found Mr Jone's new email address. In addition to asking a few questions and sending him back his original email questionnaire from Jughead I mentioned maybe porting to FreeBSD and perhaps even GPL. > He was suprised to find people still used gopher and surely didn't expect to get his questionnaire back so many years later :) > It was a short time after that I had the pleasure of emailing back and forth a bit with RMS and metioned to him that I thought it would be neat if Jughead was a part of the group of GPL'd software. > Historically important, made back when gopher was "it" and further under the license of The University of Utah, which isnt a free software but came close, involving Archie Comics as well, a large corporate entity. > After all if one considered Archie, Jughead and Veronica, the search engine equivalents of the first stone wheels, then we ought to set a few next to a new Hoosier race tire yes? :) > To my suprise Mr Stallman ask for Jonzys email address and just like that emailed him (I was delighted to be cc'd). How neat, for here was two people I really do consider hero's of mine discussing things like emacs and gcc and jughead and all :) > As it was, it took a long time and alot of work, waiting and effort by people working behind the scenes, all of us unaware (myself included as my only involvment was to occasionally pester and ask if it was "done yet?"). And now its preserved and free and now no matter what for ever salvaged from being lost. I think(Continue reading)
10 Apr 2007 17:02
Re: Jugtail formerly Jughead
Possibly we could look for Fred Barrie or Steven Foster. Jonzy thought that Fred Barrie still lived in Henderson Nevada, I haven't been able to confirm that. I know someone else was working with Archie, any news on getting it running or any possibilities on re-licensing it? Chris On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 07:59:51 -0500 "Benn Newman" <newmanbe@...> wrote: > On 09/04/07, Chris <chris@...> wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > I hope everyone had a great Easter. > > First I saw in the archives of emails at quux that what I am announcing already was by Benn Newman some time ago. I never saw it neither did a few others so, I'll mention it again. > > (thanks Benn btw) > > > > I would like to announce Jugtail, some of you have no doubt noticed it on: > > http://www.dmoz.org/Computers/Internet/Gopher/ > > > > It is the GPL'd release of Jughead (name changed for existing trademark issues). > > Personally I, for many reasons, am quite happy to see this. Back in 04 when I was trying to use Jughead to do things it wasn't really designed to do I found Mr Jone's new email address. In addition to asking a few questions and sending him back his original email questionnaire from Jughead I mentioned maybe porting to FreeBSD and perhaps even GPL. > > He was suprised to find people still used gopher and surely didn't expect to get his questionnaire back so many years later :) > > It was a short time after that I had the pleasure of emailing back and forth a bit with RMS and metioned to him(Continue reading)
11 Apr 2007 14:22
Mozilla bugs about Gopher, and a dangerous one
Hi all, Hope you had a happy easter. As for me, I spent my time on Cameron's Veronica 2 and on bugzilla.mozilla.org. I found some bugs and I'd like to share my thoughts. Here comes the list. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=351748 (Remove UI for Gopher proxy settings) This one - the most recent bug about the Gopher protocol - is pretty dangerous. It is about removing the user interface for Gopher proxy settings. Even worse, the last suggestion is: "let's keep it until we completely remove Gopher support". IMHO, someone should definitely defend the presence of Gopher in Mozilla codebase. Add yourself in the CC list (don't vote for this one! ;), protest, do something... I was about to do so, but I'm an eternal newbie and anything but a code wizard so I think other people on this mailing list could do that much better than me. It would be really stupid if the recently corrected Gopher support was abandoned :( Well, here follow some other gopher related bugs filed in Mozilla's bugzilla. Fortunately, their goal is to enhance Gopher support, not to suppress it. All in all, there are not so many bugs for gopher, but unfortunately, these bugs do not have many votes either. So my humble suggestion is that you visit and vote for those who seem important to you. Creating an account on bugzilla is easy and you won't get any spam because of the comments you might leave, so go on. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=194220 (Bug 194220 -- [meta] gopher)(Continue reading)
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