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Chris | 1 Dec 2005 05:25

Re: Bot update

Yes very much like WAIS and with each gopher server, for this particular project (searching Johns
database), maintaing a part of the larger data set.
The idea being that your searching a static database and each link points to the cached database and
therefore faster than WAIS as it was used and could still be used. I feel there is a distinction between WAIS
and using WAIS software to work on one static database, even if done similarly because with WAIS there was
alot of lag and latency which we could trim by selecting servers and groups of servers dedicated for the project.
And maybe we should have some people running WAIS anyhow.

John had some ideas for pygopherd to be more easily traversed through directories by google spidering...
what of a way to have the full text be googled  and derived from pygopherds html-ized pages, in this way one
would run a pygopherd server with the 28G data on it and let google spider it and then make a gopher gateway to
google http://gophersite:80/bigdataset.
That way google does the work of the search and its brought back "down" into gopherland. Just more thoughts..
Chris

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 12:06:58 +0300
"R.A.Pavlov" <webmaster@...> wrote:

> On Tue, Nov 29, 2005 at 09:03:35PM -0600, Chris wrote:
> > Some other possibilities came to mind, things such as breaking it up into datasets and having various
boxen here as well as at other gophers each maintain a dataset or sets.
> 
> And this is close to the idea of WAIS searches where each server indexes
> its own content and other servers maintain lists of links to these WAIS
> servers. If you mean that each gopher server maintains a database
> of its own content.
>  
> By the way I have some progress with WAIS and will show some results to
> the public very soon.
>
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Benn Newman | 3 Dec 2005 15:35
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Z39.50 gateway

Hello all,
	I am looking to replace my servers current full text system (a homegrown mix of grep and sed) which is very
slow. Based on what I've looked at, I am going to be replacing it with Isearch.
I found one Gopher+ gateway at
ftp://boombox.micro.umn.edu/pub/gopher/Unix/gopher-gateways/go4zgate but unless you all feel
like implementing Gopher+ is Mozila or somethig, I don't plan on using that. :)

So my question is, does anyone know of any other Gopher to Z39.50 gateways?
If not, I'll just have to make my own front end.
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Benn Newman | 3 Dec 2005 18:54
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Re: Z39.50 gateway

Too late. I've already made the front end for Isearch.
I have decided to not index the entire server, but
only the sections that would most benefit from full 
text searches. It still needs a little work, but it
is usable.
You can view the list of indexes at
gopher://igneous-rock.homeunix.net/1/search
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Benn Newman | 19 Dec 2005 17:27
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Veronica

"Hello world!"
	-- Veronica
Okay, okay. She didn't actually say that. And it's not really a she either.
It is Local-Veronica. I discovered the source for local-veronica (Veronica
for individual servers). on the .jp Gopher server. It is running at
hal3000.cx. If my ubercool full-text search doesn't wake you up, this should. :)
Veronica is currently only indexing un-maintained servers, i.e. the ones
at universities gaining dust.

Also of interest is the Gopher Project IRC channel at irc://irc.freenode.net/gopherproject

At any one time you can find Ortinz, the administrator of hal3000.cx, plastic01, the developer
for the GopherJ Gopher client, or myself, the administrator of igneous-rock.homeunix.net

When the paper works gets all done (*glares at John if he hasn't already done what I asked him to do*)
I'll be handing out (to those who come by enough) fancy gopherproject cloaks.

The logs for the channel are avaliable at gopher://igneous-rock.homeunix.net/1/irclogs/
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Alessandro Selli | 19 Dec 2005 20:16
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Re: Veronica

Benn Newman wrote:
> "Hello world!"
> 	-- Veronica
> Okay, okay. She didn't actually say that. And it's not really a she either.
> It is Local-Veronica. I discovered the source for local-veronica (Veronica
> for individual servers). on the .jp Gopher server. It is running at
> hal3000.cx. If my ubercool full-text search doesn't wake you up, this should. :)

  It did.  I was just wondering about adding such a thing on my gopher
server, as well.  My personal Gopher-served Usenet archive is becoming
quite large to scan all the pages in search of *that* article that was
posted not that long ago.

[...]

> Also of interest is the Gopher Project IRC channel at irc://irc.freenode.net/gopherproject
> 
> At any one time you can find Ortinz, the administrator of hal3000.cx, plastic01, the developer
> for the GopherJ Gopher client, or myself, the administrator of igneous-rock.homeunix.net

  I wish I had time to wast^W spend on IRC, too!  :-)

> When the paper works gets all done (*glares at John if he hasn't already done what I asked him to do*)
> I'll be handing out (to those who come by enough) fancy gopherproject cloaks.
> 
> The logs for the channel are avaliable at gopher://igneous-rock.homeunix.net/1/irclogs/


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Alessandro Selli | 19 Dec 2005 20:29
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Re: Veronica

Alessandro Selli wrote:
> Benn Newman wrote:
> 
>>"Hello world!"
>>	-- Veronica
>>Okay, okay. She didn't actually say that. And it's not really a she either.
>>It is Local-Veronica. I discovered the source for local-veronica (Veronica
>>for individual servers). on the .jp Gopher server. It is running at
>>hal3000.cx. If my ubercool full-text search doesn't wake you up, this should. :)
> 
> 
>   It did.

  Well, maybe I did not wake up, after all.
This was actually supposed to be "I did"!  :-)

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Cameron Kaiser | 19 Dec 2005 20:41
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> This was actually supposed to be "I did"!  :-)

Are you guys able to get into hal3000.cx? The name is not resolving today.

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Alessandro Selli | 19 Dec 2005 21:11
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Re: Veronica

Cameron Kaiser wrote:
>>This was actually supposed to be "I did"!  :-)
> 
> 
> Are you guys able to get into hal3000.cx? The name is not resolving today.
>

$ host hal3000.cx
;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached

  :-(

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Benn Newman | 19 Dec 2005 21:08
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Re: Veronica

On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 11:41:49AM -0800, Cameron Kaiser wrote:
> Are you guys able to get into hal3000.cx? The name is not resolving today.
Chris has had a lot of DNS problems with Greenbay Net (is ISP). The name server,
according the the whois on the domain, is 69.217.43.23 which looks right. *shrug*
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Benn Newman | 19 Dec 2005 21:34
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Re: Veronica

On Mon, Dec 19, 2005 at 09:11:56PM +0100, Alessandro Selli wrote:
> $ host hal3000.cx
> ;; connection timed out; no servers could be reached
Hopfully one of his many pagers will tell him. :)
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