Bob | 2 Dec 01:14 2005
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Coral Cache unusably slow/high latency??

Is Coral Cache in general, and our Coral-ified download archive in particular
(click "downloads" on the front page and try and get one of the installers)
working for anyone? For me it's *insanely* slow and high latency right now, to
the point where browsers and the wininstaller are guaranteed to time out before
getting anything :(  It's so bad it would be faster to distribute them on
freenet 0.5, if not for the obvious chicken and egg problem ;)

I've verified this by trying various Coral links from my shell on sdf-eu, which
despite the "eu" name is in Dallas. I get the same behaviour. It was working
fine earlier today :/

This isn't an emu specific issue, the example
http://www.coralcdn.org.nyud.net:8090/ link given on http://www.coralcdn.org/
took at least 5 minutes, probably longer, to load anything (and only managed to
do so at all because I have very high browser timeouts for freenet.)

Initially I couldn't even resolve it from my home connection, perhaps there's
been some sort of weird DNS update that's broken the network? There's no mention
of such a thing on any of coralcdn's list archives though.

Bob
Bob | 2 Dec 01:43 2005
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Re: Coral Cache unusably slow/high latency??

> Is Coral Cache in general, and our Coral-ified download archive in 
> particular
>(click "downloads" on the front page and try and get one of the 
> installers) working for anyone? For me it's *insanely* slow and high 
> latency right now, to
> the point where browsers and the wininstaller are guaranteed to time
out > before getting anything :(  It's so bad it would be faster to
distribute
> them on freenet 0.5, if not for the obvious chicken and egg problem
;)
>
> I've verified this by trying various Coral links from my shell on
sdf-eu, > which
> despite the "eu" name is in Dallas. I get the same behaviour. It was 
> working fine earlier today :/
--snip--

wget from my home connection shows that the problem appears to be
individual coral cache hosts not working for whatever reason :/

wget http://downloads.freenetproject.org/freenet-webinstall.exe
--00:10:24-- 
http://downloads.freenetproject.org/freenet-webinstall.exe
           => `freenet-webinstall.exe'
Resolving downloads.freenetproject.org... 80.68.80.201,
2001:4bd0:2000:81::2
Connecting to downloads.freenetproject.org|80.68.80.201|:80...
connected.
HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 302 Found
Location:
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Ian Clarke | 2 Dec 11:49 2005
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Building from subversion

I am trying to build Freenet from subversion.

The Eclipse project file is hard-wired to point to
/usr/src/cvs/freenet-stable/lib/freenet-ext.jar which is obviously not
a good approach.

How can we set this up elegantly to make life as easy as possible for
those wanting to build from subversion?

Ian.
NextGen$ | 2 Dec 12:02 2005

Re: Building from subversion

* Ian Clarke <ian.clarke@...> [2005-12-02 10:49:05]:

> I am trying to build Freenet from subversion.
> 
> The Eclipse project file is hard-wired to point to
> /usr/src/cvs/freenet-stable/lib/freenet-ext.jar which is obviously not
> a good approach.
> 
> How can we set this up elegantly to make life as easy as possible for
> those wanting to build from subversion?
> 

What about using Ant's buildfile ?

ant -lib /path/to/freenet-ext.jar

should compile fine... That's what I'm using in eclipse to build the
project.

NextGen$.
Ian Clarke | 2 Dec 12:04 2005
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Re: Building from subversion

Well, normally it is useful to tell Eclipse how to build from source
because then it can do as-you-type error checking - so ideally the
eclipse project file could be set up to build from source in addition
to relying on the ant buildfile for this.

Ian.

On 02/12/05, NextGen$ <nextgens@...> wrote:
> * Ian Clarke <ian.clarke@...> [2005-12-02 10:49:05]:
>
> > I am trying to build Freenet from subversion.
> >
> > The Eclipse project file is hard-wired to point to
> > /usr/src/cvs/freenet-stable/lib/freenet-ext.jar which is obviously not
> > a good approach.
> >
> > How can we set this up elegantly to make life as easy as possible for
> > those wanting to build from subversion?
> >
>
> What about using Ant's buildfile ?
>
> ant -lib /path/to/freenet-ext.jar
>
> should compile fine... That's what I'm using in eclipse to build the
> project.
>
>
> NextGen$.
>
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Bob | 2 Dec 12:48 2005
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Re: Coral Cache unusably slow/high latency??

Bob <bob_j_hayes <at> ...> writes:

> 
> > Is Coral Cache in general, and our Coral-ified download archive in 
> > particular
> >(click "downloads" on the front page and try and get one of the 
> > installers) working for anyone? For me it's *insanely* slow and high 
> > latency right now
--snip--

Still happening for me, on my connection at work now :/  Again this is a
generalised problem, the http://www.coralcdn.org.nyud.net:8090/ example link
still doesn't work. Although I seem to consistently get "connection refused" now
instead of timeouts.

I'm pretty sure there's something fundamentally broken in CoralCDN. If anyone
else is seeing this and it's not just me going mad, we should turn off the coral
redirection on emu so that people can actually download things!

Bob
Matthew Toseland | 2 Dec 14:16 2005
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Re: Building from subversion

Well, it works with 0.5. I believe there are two approaches:
- Download freenet-ext.jar into lib/ and use it from there.
- Require the Contrib project to be checked out in parallel, and build
  from source.
Ant uses both, I think Eclipse in 0.5 uses the former.

On Fri, Dec 02, 2005 at 11:04:22AM +0000, Ian Clarke wrote:
> Well, normally it is useful to tell Eclipse how to build from source
> because then it can do as-you-type error checking - so ideally the
> eclipse project file could be set up to build from source in addition
> to relying on the ant buildfile for this.
> 
> Ian.
> 
> On 02/12/05, NextGen$ <nextgens@...> wrote:
> > * Ian Clarke <ian.clarke@...> [2005-12-02 10:49:05]:
> >
> > > I am trying to build Freenet from subversion.
> > >
> > > The Eclipse project file is hard-wired to point to
> > > /usr/src/cvs/freenet-stable/lib/freenet-ext.jar which is obviously not
> > > a good approach.
> > >
> > > How can we set this up elegantly to make life as easy as possible for
> > > those wanting to build from subversion?
> > >
> >
> > What about using Ant's buildfile ?
> >
> > ant -lib /path/to/freenet-ext.jar
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NextGen$ | 2 Dec 16:11 2005

Re: Re: Coral Cache unusably slow/high latency??

* Bob <bob_j_hayes@...> [2005-12-02 11:48:10]:

> Bob <bob_j_hayes <at> ...> writes:
> 
> > 
> > > Is Coral Cache in general, and our Coral-ified download archive in 
> > > particular
> > >(click "downloads" on the front page and try and get one of the 
> > > installers) working for anyone? For me it's *insanely* slow and high 
> > > latency right now
> --snip--
> 
> Still happening for me, on my connection at work now :/  Again this is a
> generalised problem, the http://www.coralcdn.org.nyud.net:8090/ example link
> still doesn't work. Although I seem to consistently get "connection refused" now
> instead of timeouts.
> 
> I'm pretty sure there's something fundamentally broken in CoralCDN. If anyone
> else is seeing this and it's not just me going mad, we should turn off the coral
> redirection on emu so that people can actually download things!
> 
> Bob

We can easily provide both ... Coralized and non-coralized download
links ....

But is the wininstaller able to fallback on an alternate download url in
case the first one isn't reachable ?

NextGen$.
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Bob | 2 Dec 17:34 2005
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Re: Coral Cache unusably slow/high latency??

NextGen$ <nextgens <at> ...> writes:

> > Bob <bob_j_hayes <at> ...> writes:
> > 
> > > 
> > > > Is Coral Cache in general, and our Coral-ified download archive in 
> > > > particular
> > > >(click "downloads" on the front page and try and get one of the 
> > > > installers) working for anyone? For me it's *insanely* slow and high 
> > > > latency right now
> > --snip--

> We can easily provide both ... Coralized and non-coralized download
> links ....
> 
> But is the wininstaller able to fallback on an alternate download url in
> case the first one isn't reachable ?
> 
> NextGen$.

The wininstaller itself (and UpdateSnapshot / NodeConfig) simply request
http://downloads.freenetproject.org/filename ... redirection to Coral Cache
happens on emu via a HTTP 302, so the wininstaller is not directly aware of it.

Fundamentally, a fallback mechanism should be unneccessary since the whole point
of CoralCache is to provide a reliable, distributed download service :/  I could
put in some sort of hack to try emu directly if you can give me a vhost that
points to the files but doesn't get redirected to coral, this is a very
inelegant solution though. I was thinking more along the lines of i)Turn off the
redirection for the time being and ii)Ask the CoralCDN people WTF is going on
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NextGen$ | 2 Dec 17:49 2005

Re: Re: Coral Cache unusably slow/high latency??

* Bob <bob_j_hayes@...> [2005-12-02 16:34:11]:

> NextGen$ <nextgens <at> ...> writes:
> 
> > > Bob <bob_j_hayes <at> ...> writes:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > Is Coral Cache in general, and our Coral-ified download archive in 
> > > > > particular
> > > > >(click "downloads" on the front page and try and get one of the 
> > > > > installers) working for anyone? For me it's *insanely* slow and high 
> > > > > latency right now
> > > --snip--
>  
> > We can easily provide both ... Coralized and non-coralized download
> > links ....
> > 
> > But is the wininstaller able to fallback on an alternate download url in
> > case the first one isn't reachable ?
> > 
> > NextGen$.
> 
> The wininstaller itself (and UpdateSnapshot / NodeConfig) simply request
> http://downloads.freenetproject.org/filename ... redirection to Coral Cache
> happens on emu via a HTTP 302, so the wininstaller is not directly aware of it.
> 
> Fundamentally, a fallback mechanism should be unneccessary since the whole point
> of CoralCache is to provide a reliable, distributed download service :/  I could
> put in some sort of hack to try emu directly if you can give me a vhost that
> points to the files but doesn't get redirected to coral, this is a very
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