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Haj | 1 Jul 2002 05:55

Re: [BETA] samba 2.2.5-4 available for testing

[root <at> e-smith samba]# rpm -Uvh lib*
Preparing...                ########################################### [100%]
   1:libattr                ########################################### [ 50%]
   2:libacl                 ########################################### [100%]
[root <at> e-smith samba]# rpm -Uvh samba*
Preparing...                ########################################### [100%]
warning: /etc/samba/smb.conf created as /etc/samba/smb.conf.rpmnew
   1:samba-common           ########################################### [ 33%]
   2:samba                  ########################################### [ 66%]
   3:samba-client           ########################################### [100%]
[root <at> e-smith samba]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart
Shutting down SMB services:                                [   OK   ]
Shutting down NMB services: /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb: kill: (13031) - No such pid
                                                           [   OK   ]
Starting SMB services:                                     [   OK   ]
Starting NMB services:                     

[root <at> e-smith samba]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart
Shutting down SMB services:                                [   OK   ]
Shutting down NMB services: /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb: kill: (13063) - No such pid
/etc/rc.d/init.d/smb: kill: (13046) - No such pid
                                                           [   OK   ]
Starting SMB services:                                     [   OK   ]
Starting NMB services:                                     [   OK   ]

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Damien Curtain | 1 Jul 2002 06:08

Re: [BETA] samba 2.2.5-4 available for testing

On Mon, Jul 01, 2002 at 02:55:46PM +1100, Haj wrote:
>
> [root <at> e-smith samba]# rpm -Uvh lib*
> Preparing...                ########################################### [100%]
>    1:libattr                ########################################### [ 50%]
>    2:libacl                 ########################################### [100%]
> [root <at> e-smith samba]# rpm -Uvh samba*
> Preparing...                ########################################### [100%]
> warning: /etc/samba/smb.conf created as /etc/samba/smb.conf.rpmnew
>    1:samba-common           ########################################### [ 33%]
>    2:samba                  ########################################### [ 66%]
>    3:samba-client           ########################################### [100%]
> [root <at> e-smith samba]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart
> Shutting down SMB services:                                [   OK   ]
> Shutting down NMB services: /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb: kill: (13031) - No such pid
>                                                            [   OK   ]
> Starting SMB services:                                     [   OK   ]
> Starting NMB services:                     
> 
> [root <at> e-smith samba]# /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb restart
> Shutting down SMB services:                                [   OK   ]
> Shutting down NMB services: /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb: kill: (13063) - No such pid
> /etc/rc.d/init.d/smb: kill: (13046) - No such pid
>                                                            [   OK   ]
> Starting SMB services:                                     [   OK   ]
> Starting NMB services:                                     [   OK   ]

It's just the standard samba so I can't see the big deal about testing.

A suggestion though is to stop samba manually before upgrading the rpms.

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Greg J. Zartman | 1 Jul 2002 18:09

Re: samba 2.2.5-4 update

>  IYRC it was made available for testing
> the 2.2.3a build changes but should be removed as this definitely is not
> meant for SME usage.

This is true, but including SWAT certainly doesn't hurt anything. 
Unless one is very familar with Samba, SWAT is not easy to get at.  In 
any event, standard Redhat build of Samba includes SWAT.  I thought that 
Mitel liked to use stock redhat unless there was a very good reason not 
to???

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Greg J. Zartman | 1 Jul 2002 18:27

Re: SME 5.5B9 samba src?

Darrell May wrote:

> Charlie Brady <charlieb <at> e-smith.com> said:
>>[I don't see how this handholding helps "samba development".]
> Sharing of knowledge is tremendously beneficial to any development.  I've
> found rebuilding the samba source for SME is not a trivial undertaking. 
> With the knowledge that has been shared, I've been able to understand the
> basics and move forward.

Agreed.  I attempted to build Samba 2.2.3 when it came out, with no 
success.  When I asked Mitel what they did, they told me to build the 
RPMs on a Redhat box, which I did.  Problem is, SME isn't stock RedHat. 
  The RPMS built and installed fine on my Redhat box, but wouldn't on my 
SME machine as it uses an older kernel.  This means that you have to 
install all of the supporting RPMs on your SME machine and build there. 
    As Darnell pointed out, this is not a trivial undertaking...

I memory servers, when I asked Charlie what they did to build the RPMs, 
he simply built them and posted on the Mitel site.

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Greg J. Zartman | 1 Jul 2002 18:55

Re: SME 5.5 beta 9

> We do like to be current, Greg, but including a new version two weeks
> before its release by Team Samba is slightly beyond us 

Sure, I understand Charlie.  Was just mentioning it is all.  IMO, Samba 
is one of those apps that I like to keep on top of.  Unlike most Linux 
software, Samba is tied directly to what MS puts out.  It's not uncommon 
for subtle changes to creep into Windows Service Packs or Windows apps 
that throws a "munkey wrench" in things.

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Darrell May | 1 Jul 2002 20:29

Re: samba 2.2.5-4 update


"Greg J. Zartman" <greg <at> leiinc.com> said:

> I thought that Mitel liked to use stock redhat

Mitel does not include samba-swat on their iso builds.  Charlie made it
available for 'testing' only and posted in his contrib area.  I mirrored
Charlie's contribs on my site.  Otherwise you won't find samba-swat and
Mitel together anywhere else.

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Charlie Brady | 1 Jul 2002 20:38

Re: [BETA] samba 2.2.5-4 available for testing


On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Damien Curtain wrote:

> It's just the standard samba so I can't see the big deal about testing.
> 
> A suggestion though is to stop samba manually before upgrading the rpms.

I'm curious to know why you are suggesting that. What do you think it will 
help?

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Darrell May | 1 Jul 2002 20:53

SME/samba development HowTo


If anyone is interested, these are the required rpms I've found necessary to
add to an SME server to do development in general and specific for samba. 
Note there are some 5.1.2/5.5 release differences.

[DEV-TOOLS]
-----------
cpp-2.96-85.i386.rpm
gcc-2.96-85.i386.rpm
gcc-c++-2.96-85.i386.rpm
glibc-devel-2.2.4-19.i386.rpm
kernel-headers-2.2.19-7.0.8.i386.rpm
kernel-source-2.2.19-7.0.8.i386.rpm
libstdc++-devel-2.96-85.i386.rpm
make-3.79.1-5.i386.rpm

[SAMBA-DEV-TOOLS]
-----------------
autoconf-2.13-14.noarch.rpm
automake-1.4p5-2.noarch.rpm
libacl-2.0.11-1.i386.rpm
libacl-devel-2.0.11-1.i386.rpm
libattr-2.0.8-2.i386.rpm
5.1.2 = libtool-1.3.5-8.i386.rpm
5.5 = libtool-1.4-8.i386.rpm
m4-1.4.1-5.i386.rpm
ncurses-devel-5.2-12.i386.rpm
5.1.2 = pam-devel-0.75-16.i386.rpm
5.5 = pam-devel-0.75-19.i386.rpm
5.1.2 = readline-devel-4.1-9.i386.rpm

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Charlie Brady | 1 Jul 2002 20:53

Re: samba 2.2.5-4 update

On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Greg J. Zartman wrote:

> >  IYRC it was made available for testing
> > the 2.2.3a build changes but should be removed as this definitely is not
> > meant for SME usage.
> 
> 
> This is true, but including SWAT certainly doesn't hurt anything. 
> Unless one is very familar with Samba, SWAT is not easy to get at.  In 
> any event, standard Redhat build of Samba includes SWAT.  I thought that 
> Mitel liked to use stock redhat unless there was a very good reason not 
> to???

Yes, but we don't use *all* of RedHat's RPMs.

Your assertion about SWAT is not correct. Installing swat is harmless, but
using it is not. Swat is incompatible with the e-smith/SME templated
configuration system, just as are linuxconf, webmin, comanche, etc.  Any
configuration changes made using swat will be lost the next time a
user/group/print/i-bay is modified.

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Greg J. Zartman | 1 Jul 2002 21:23

Re: samba 2.2.5-4 update

> Your assertion about SWAT is not correct. Installing swat is harmless, but
> using it is not. 

Which is incorrect: Including it or finding it?  I agree that using it 
is a big no-no on an SME system, but including it certainly doesn't hurt 
anything.  Without a GUI on the server itself, it is very very difficult 
to access SWAT remotely.    Exclude the TCP-wrappers that point to SWAT 
and it's next to impossible to access it from anywhere.

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