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margin_short | 2 Jun 2007 20:41
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Why does BNR3 hang up "Determining Missing Headers"?

Ver 14.7.448 sometimes stops dead "Determining Missing Headers". I quit 
and restart and all is fine. I'm just wondering what causes this. Seems 
like it happens when my DB approaches 1 gb. Any correlation?

Thanks!

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Lenny_Nero | 2 Jun 2007 20:24
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Re: Sorting / grouping

Bonno Bloksma said

> But that was to point. I was realy searching for the files I wanted to
> download. At the top level I would see DSN S5D3.par2, listed as 5 files
> One level down I would see 5 PAR2 files for DSN S5D3, D4, D5, D6 and D7.
> It would keep read and unread parts apart, somethings it WOULD group
> together, others not. In the end I managed to download everything
> So..... I'm a happy dude right now. :-)
> 
> I would love for BNR3 to have a way to handle this. Does not need to be
> automatic, Could be simply a picklist of what format to expect en sort
> that way. That would mean it might mungle one post but get the one I'm
> interested in right. If I then want to gent a mungled postr I'll simply
> select another format.

By the sound of it you have BNR3 setup to group all of the files so the
pages are smaller, I dont have it setup that way just for that reason (and
that I have used BNR since before it did this). If you have it set to not
have the hierarchy view off (to the left of FltCfg) you will then see it
all in one pane, which you can sort better IMO.

If you also go into the main group page and right click on the group and
select the properties and go into sorting you can set the group so sort
the way you want from the start. I have found it is better to have some
groups set one way and others another, but that is only something that you
can work out what you like best.

Or just click on the top named bar of what you want to sort it on, file
name, time/date subject, you can have a first and second sort... it does
make a difference.
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john llewsrac | 3 Jun 2007 01:06
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Downloading lots

Thanks Lenny

Question - what the hell do you do with what you
download :)?:)?:)?????

I am limited to 40 gig per month(average speed just
over 200 kb/s) and struggle to keep up with what I
download.

in fact there are movies/doc's etc that I have not
watched yet!! which I have downloaded :):):):) a few
months ago.

I admit there have beeen times where I have wanted
certain things like songs/games series which I have
wanted that took a few months to get, but that has not
been on a consistent month in month out basis.

Do you download for friends / family as well? What do
you use to archive what you download? or do you just
delete what you have downloaded once you used/watch
it?

I am currently looking at how to manage the many gigs
that I have downloaded over the years ie
cds-dvds-hddrivess....where I can hide so that won't
be stolen.

Last year had my new pc stolen and was pleasantly
surprised to find that I had small hddrives with a lot
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Lenny_Nero | 9 Jun 2007 16:23
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Re: Downloading lots

john llewsrac said

> 
> Question - what the hell do you do with what you download :)?:)?:)?????
>  
> I am limited to 40 gig per month(average speed just over 200 kb/s) and
> struggle to keep up with what I download.

I download just for me in the main, but when you get into some groups, for
a long time, with a good bunch of people they are always digging up stuff
for each other and I never seem to be able to keep up. So much so that I
have stopped checking the movie groups for the last month or two

I dont like live TV for the main and almost always watch what I want to, I
also like music and play a lot of audio books.

But checking DU meter I uploaded almost as much as much as I downloaded
last month (more than 300 GB) but that is not all posting I move a lot of
data between places and test for some servers.

I miss out on a lot of stuff (IMO) and I only check around 10~15 groups on
a day-to-day basis, and some just once every few weeks.

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Lenny_Nero | 9 Jun 2007 20:15
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Re: Downloading lots

john llewsrac said

> Do you download for friends / family as well? What do you use to archive
> what you download? or do you just delete what you have downloaded once
> you used/watch it?
> 
> I am currently looking at how to manage the many gigs that I have
> downloaded over the years ie cds-dvds-hddrivess....where I can hide so
> that won't be stolen.
> 
> Last year had my new pc stolen and was pleasantly surprised to find that
> I had small hddrives with a lot of what I had stolen
> photos/songs/docos/movies/games etc on the old hhdrives.

Sorry, I posted without the end.

I keep almost everything I get, and it is then archived out to DVD, I must
have more than 2 TB of hard drives in the two computers I use for my own
stuff, I also have a media/file server that I use with my HTPC setup and
that does have a lot of stuff on hard drives that the rest of the house
can watch if they want to.

As for stopping stuff from getting robbed, well I dont thing about that,
because short of keeping stuff in a safe, if someone gets in its gone, but
I have a dog and what I like to think is quite a safe house, and I try not
to have the only copy of anything on the hard drives in the computers.

Good quality DVD's are not too expensive now and running off two copies,
one on good but cheaper media (Verbatim MCC004 is what I like for this)
and then an archive copy on a TY/Verb or pure TY disk and using an LG
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lawandorder49 | 12 Jun 2007 00:06
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Want Filter in BNR

Hi,

I am a newbie and I want to understand how the want filter works.  I 
thought the filter will mark the articles I am interested as "wanted" 
but when I try to do that, it does not seem to work at all.  

Say, if I want to mark all the articles which has a subject line 
contains the word "Computer", I can go under Options and then 
Kill/Want.  Under the Want filters tab, create a new filter by 
unchecking the Author and Filename (Headers this filter matches) and 
put the word "Computer" under the RegEx box.  (Groups is any).  When I 
apply the filter, nothing is being marked as wanted (with a default 
color of "green").  (Even though there are articles with a subject line 
containing the word "Computer").  I also try to set up the want filter 
by clicking the article itself and updating the RegEx box but it still 
does not work.  Am I missing some steps here ?  Any help is appreciated.

Larry........

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Jeff Snavely | 12 Jun 2007 00:39
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Re: Want Filter in BNR

--- In bnr1 <at> yahoogroups.com, "lawandorder49" <lawrence_k_tse <at> ...> wrote:
> I am a newbie and I want to understand how the want filter works.  I 
> thought the filter will mark the articles I am interested as
> "wanted" but when I try to do that, it does not seem to work at all.  
> 
> Say, if I want to mark all the articles which has a subject line 
> contains the word "Computer", I can go under Options and then 
> Kill/Want.  Under the Want filters tab, create a new filter by 
> unchecking the Author and Filename (Headers this filter matches) and 
> put the word "Computer" under the RegEx box.  (Groups is any).  When
> I apply the filter, nothing is being marked as wanted (with a
> default color of "green").  (Even though there are articles with a
> subject line containing the word "Computer").  I also try to set up
> the want filter by clicking the article itself and updating the
> RegEx box but it still does not work.  Am I missing some steps here ?
>  Any help is appreciated.

The Want filters are applied to the headers as you download them, so
you would have had to create the "Computer" filter before you
downloaded the headers.  To do a search for existing articles
containing the word "Computer", you can type that word into the
QuickFilter box on the toolbar of any group.

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lawandorder49 | 16 Jun 2007 00:26
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What Mismatch ID error means ?

Hi,

Occasionally, I will encounter the following error:

6/15/07 12:11:46 PM (Version 0.14.6.447 (Beta)): Message-ID mismatch! 
Server="RCN", Group="some_group_name", Response="220 
22876300 <P6ydnbxB4NJ9HXHYnZ2dnUVZ8qDinZ2d <at> giganews.com>", 
requested "<...>".

What does this error mean ?  This problem usually goes away when I 
unmark this article from the download queue; refresh the group and then 
re-mark the article for download.  The download again will be 
successful (otherwise I believe BNR will keep retrying the 
article ???).  Why does it happen ?  Any way to fix or avoid the 
problem ?

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Dave | 16 Jun 2007 04:31

Re: What Mismatch ID error means ?

lawandorder49 wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Occasionally, I will encounter the following error:
>
> 6/15/07 12:11:46 PM (Version 0.14.6.447 (Beta)): Message-ID mismatch! 
> Server="RCN", Group="some_group_name", Response="220 
> 22876300 <P6ydnbxB4NJ9HXHYnZ2dnUVZ8qDinZ2d <at> giganews.com>", 
> requested "<...>".
>
> What does this error mean ?  This problem usually goes away when I 
> unmark this article from the download queue; refresh the group and then 
> re-mark the article for download.  The download again will be 
> successful (otherwise I believe BNR will keep retrying the 
> article ???).  Why does it happen ?  Any way to fix or avoid the 
> problem ?
>   

In short, it means that BNR asked for one article, and received another 
instead.  It could be a bug in BNR (or bad data from the database), or a 
bug on the NNTP server.

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Lenny_Nero | 18 Jun 2007 05:14
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Re: What Mismatch ID error means ?

Dave said

> lawandorder49 wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Occasionally, I will encounter the following error:
>>
>> 6/15/07 12:11:46 PM (Version 0.14.6.447 (Beta)): Message-ID mismatch!
>> Server="RCN", Group="some_group_name", Response="220 22876300
>> <P6ydnbxB4NJ9HXHYnZ2dnUVZ8qDinZ2d <at> giganews.com>", requested "<...>".
>>
>> What does this error mean ?  This problem usually goes away when I
>> unmark this article from the download queue; refresh the group and then
>> re-mark the article for download.  The download again will be
>> successful (otherwise I believe BNR will keep retrying the article
>> ???).  Why does it happen ?  Any way to fix or avoid the problem ?
>>   
>>   
> In short, it means that BNR asked for one article, and received another
> instead.  It could be a bug in BNR (or bad data from the database), or a
> bug on the NNTP server.

There is a 'something like' ignore good 220's when art. num./Msg-ID
missmatch err. somewhere check box, I think it can happen when (as Dave
said) the NNTP server has a problem with its's own article numbers, but
the Msg-ID works (as it should if made right) and you get the right part.

Its not too much of a big deal, as long as you are getting the right part
and dont have a directory littered with the wrong parts, as I had the
other day when a testing servers frontend had a big problem.
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