Andy Pinkerton | 1 May 12:54 2003

RE: Re: Feature request

Pavery wrote:

>On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 15:53:16 -0000, bansheemr wrote:
>
>> Wondered if anybody actually read this?
>
>I read it but wanted wine instead of beer.

You must be French...

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Mark (fat | 1 May 14:34 2003
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RE: Re: Is the dbase corruption? 1.1Mb..3 articles...actually 1kb

The thing that gets me is that it is the uploads are so specific.
Multiple releases. Nicely labelled subjects. Standard zip + nfo

Add to that...

It has been happening now for at least a week
All the files are different (i.e. what they profess to be)
The files are listed on newsbin.c*m which is usually a excellent sign of
validity.

Could this still be a bug?

Mark(fat)

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From: Rick Bush [mailto:ricks <at> homebased2.com] 
Sent: 30 April 2003 16:25
To: bnr1 <at> yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [BNR] Re: Is the dbase corruption? 1.1Mb..3
articles...actually 1kb

I have noticed that the files are listed on two lines; one ends up being
the command.com and the other the file I was trying to download.

I agree it is weird.

Rick

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MLM Veraart | 1 May 15:16 2003
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Re: Re: Database....

"Brian R. Mueller" wrote:
> 
> I think it can be said with a great deal of certainty that the faster
> the headers are pulled into the system the worse db corruption can
> become and the faster it will happen.  This observation is based on
> reading through the literally hundreds of corruption related posts here.
> Most people who report little or no database corruption over long
> periods of time also have stated at one time or another that they have
> low speed DSL lines, ISDN speeds, throttled downloads or (gasp) dialup.
> Most people who have reported a lot of database corruption have also
> stated at one time or another that they have faster cable lines, faster
> DSL or a Tx line.  The magnitude of speed also seems to correlate with
> the frequency of corruption.  Someone with a 512kb cable cap might see
> corruption once a month or more while someone like myself on a 2.5Mb
> cable connection (downloading roughly 5 times as fast) see corruption in
> as little as a few days and often not more than a couple of weeks - even
> if we follow the accepted guidelines for usage.
> 
> Other factors such as downloading headers while articles are still being
> downloaded seem to cause corruption more quickly (but that seems to be a
> known and accepted issue).  One question on that Jeff.  Is there any way
> in the program to have the download thread look to see if ANY header
> downloads are occurring and if so immediately suspend any article
> downloads until the headers complete?  This would be a nice automatic
> way to keep auto-refresh enabled but at the same time not have to ensure
> that all articles are cleared first and/or manually pause/unpause them.
> 
> As for corruption being a function of speed.  I guess that any database
> can show more corruption under heavier load and I guess the cause could
> lie more with the underlying threads and not the database code.  Does
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Eduardo Delgado | 1 May 21:55 2003
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Re: RE: Re: Is the dbase corruption? 1.1Mb..3 articles...actually 1kb

>Could this still be a bug?

Just get an article by telneting and count how much chinese you see. An 
1Kb article should scroll real quick, whilst a 2Mb article should be spitting 
yEnc/UU to your screen for a while.

In short, at a command prompt type:

    telnet <your server> 119
        authinfo user <your user>
        authinfo pass <your pass>
        group <da group>
        body <ArticleID>
        quit

Replacing the "body" with a "head" might also reveal something.

In the telnet that came with NT4, you could turn logging on, but I'm too 
dumb to find that option in W2K. I'm getting old.  :-)  So I copied telnet.exe 
from my old machine.  ;-)

To know the Article ID, pause BNR queue, mark one of those articles, go 
back to the queue and write the Article ID down. Remove the item and 
unpause the queue.

Also, in BNR, pick one of those articles, look at which servers it's available 
on, change one the servers to use "article" instead of "body" command, 
pause the queue, mark the article using the "Save as Text" feature and 
unpause the queue. Look at the downloaded nws file. Maybe there's 
something strange in the header or between it and the (first?) attachment 
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gjvdvelden | 2 May 01:21 2003
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Case sensitive or not? A very, very minor bug (for Jeff)

Hi Jeff,

Recently I subscribed to a alt.bin.movie subgroup. I found two 
entries for this group on the newsgroups page, one entry all in 
lowercase letters and one entry with some capitals in it. However 
none of the servers have both versions of this group in their 
newsgroup list and it is obvious that both entirs are one and the 
same group.

This in itsself is no problem for I can use a folder to combine both 
groups into one virtual newsgroup as I did with succes.

The only problem I encountered occured when I first tried to use the 
force exists button for those servers which has some capitals in the 
groupname. When BNR2 tried to switch to this newsgroup on these 
servers it somehow kept trying to open this newsgroup forever on that 
server and using some bandwidth in the process, without ever 
succeeding. Is this because the newsserver(s) evaluates the 
newsgroupname with case sensitivity or is it that BNR2 is using case 
sensitivity in evaluasting the server response and noting that the 
name of the opened newsgroup is not the same as requested. Why does 
BNR2 not come to the conclusion that the requested newsgroup does
not exist on the server and continues with the next task. Somehow 
BNR2 is reacting differently when there are case diferences in a
groupname on the server and in BNR2. I would have expected to see 
that BNR2 would have come to the conclusion that the requested group 
does not exsists on the server instead of trying to open that group 
over and over again.

BTW A side effect of combining these two groups into one folder and 
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Winkless, Geoff | 2 May 10:54 2003

[OT] telnet client (was Is the dbase corruption? 1.1Mb..3 articles...actually 1kb)

at 01 May 2003 20:55, Eduardo Delgado wrote:
> In the telnet that came with NT4, you could turn logging on, but I'm
> too dumb to find that option in W2K. I'm getting old.  :-)  So I
> copied telnet.exe from my old machine.  ;-)

Use putty. It does telnet & ssh, has a near-as-dammit-xterm-compatibility, is completely free and, to be
blunt, it's ace.

http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/

Geoff

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jsnavely.geo | 2 May 11:09 2003
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Re: Case sensitive or not? A very, very minor bug (for Jeff)

--- In bnr1 <at> yahoogroups.com, "gjvdvelden" <gvdvelden <at> w...> wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
> 
> Recently I subscribed to a alt.bin.movie subgroup. I found two 
> entries for this group on the newsgroups page, one entry all in 
> lowercase letters and one entry with some capitals in it. However 
> none of the servers have both versions of this group in their 
> newsgroup list and it is obvious that both entirs are one and the 
> same group.
> 
> This in itsself is no problem for I can use a folder to combine
> both groups into one virtual newsgroup as I did with succes.
> 
> The only problem I encountered occured when I first tried to use
> the force exists button for those servers which has some capitals
> in the groupname. When BNR2 tried to switch to this newsgroup on
> these servers it somehow kept trying to open this newsgroup forever
> on that server and using some bandwidth in the process, without
> ever succeeding. Is this because the newsserver(s) evaluates the 
> newsgroupname with case sensitivity or is it that BNR2 is using
> case sensitivity in evaluasting the server response and noting that
> the name of the opened newsgroup is not the same as requested. Why
> does BNR2 not come to the conclusion that the requested newsgroup
> does not exist on the server and continues with the next task.
> Somehow BNR2 is reacting differently when there are case diferences
> in a groupname on the server and in BNR2. I would have expected to
> see that BNR2 would have come to the conclusion that the requested
> group does not exsists on the server instead of trying to open that
> group over and over again.
> 
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pavery | 2 May 11:54 2003

RE: Re: Feature request

On Thu, 1 May 2003 06:54:43 -0400, Andy Pinkerton wrote:

>You must be French...
>
Mais non.  J'aime le bier aussi.

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beachcomber22001 | 2 May 12:18 2003
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News Reaper Downlod Speed

I have a Broadband connection but can only get up to 79 Kbps Download 
from my Freeserve connection to their Newsgroups.

I have tried increasing the Bandwith on BRN but that does not help.

Freeserve has not properly answered the Bandwith question I put to 
them as of now.

How fast should I be able to download with BRN,  or is it my Server 
that is the problem.

I have opened up 4 connection but they only "Share" the available 
bandwith.

I am running the latest version on Windows 98.

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pavery | 2 May 15:17 2003

RE: Re: Feature request

On Fri, 02 May 2003 05:54:24 -0400, pavery wrote:

>Mais non.  J'aime le bier aussi.
>
hmmmm.... la bire

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