1 Mar 02:45
Re: racluster() memory control Re: New To Argus
Nick Diel <ndiel <at> engr.colostate.edu>
2008-03-01 01:45:05 GMT
2008-03-01 01:45:05 GMT
Carter,
Thanks for the information. I have been playing around with the timeout period with great success, though what is the status entry for? If this is documented somewhere, I apologize, but I couldn't find it.
I think the radark() method is quite clever, but in my situation I am not able to do that (yet). I am capturing data at a transit provider and immediately anonymizing the data. I don't have access to know which subnets are darks, but I will investigate if I can find one. I do think this could be a powerful research tool for me.
For now after I merge status flows, I think I will create a filter to purge the port scans from some of my outputs.
Nick
Carter Bullard wrote:
Thanks for the information. I have been playing around with the timeout period with great success, though what is the status entry for? If this is documented somewhere, I apologize, but I couldn't find it.
I think the radark() method is quite clever, but in my situation I am not able to do that (yet). I am capturing data at a transit provider and immediately anonymizing the data. I don't have access to know which subnets are darks, but I will investigate if I can find one. I do think this could be a powerful research tool for me.
For now after I merge status flows, I think I will create a filter to purge the port scans from some of my outputs.
Nick
Carter Bullard wrote:
The default idle timeout is infinity.I think if you pre-process the stream with something like radark()which provides you with the IP addresses of scanners, you canreject traffic involving those addresses or you just filter trafficthat is going to IP addresses that don't exist, you will do well.We have limits in the code, I just need to reduce the number so itdoesn't kill the average machine. We have means of passing thelimit to the clients as well, in the .rarc file, so that should be easyto do.Carter
On Feb 28, 2008, at 4:59 PM, Nick Diel wrote:Carter,
I am going to start playing around with idle=timeout, if that parameter is not specified is there a default value used or will all flows stay in cache? Though this parameter looks very promising for my use.
Where we do most of our capturing we can see millions of port scans in a 12 hour trace, so that is an issue for us too when we do flow filtering. I wonder if a separate timeout would be useful for flows that just have a syn? Basically trying to purge out port scans faster. Or maybe in a memory constraint model these flows are picked first to be outputted.
I also think flushing out "complete" tcp flows is a good idea too. Maybe a second timeout should be in place for these flows (it would be shorter than the regular timeout and potentially 0), that way if you wanted you could capture anomalies such as duplicate fin acks. This second timer could also be used for flows that have a reset, since it is very common to see additional packets after a reset (packets still on the wire, reset gets lost, etc.).
Finally, I can see how a memory limit could be beneficial. While yes it does create a problem where results are going to be influenced on size of memory available, it will allow for processing that may not otherwise be possible (or at least easily doable). When I was producing a list of flows on port 25, I had to use very aggressive filters to handle memory issues and I know I missed some flows anyways. We ended up with 20 million plus flows for our 12 hour capture. I would have been willing to give a memory limit and had known that possibly not all flows would have been combined properly. In my case at least I would expect most flows outputted early due to memory constraints would have been port scans and complete flows that haven't reached their idle timeout yet. So again this would be a site specific option. Per your list:
1. filter input data2. change the flow model definition to reduce the number of flows,3. use the "idle=timeout" option on items in the racluster.conf file.
4. use memory limit for very large data sets with knowledge it could affect the actual output.
Basically a memory limit is used when the others are not working. It just allows for processing that may not have been easily possible.
Nick
Carter Bullard wrote:Hey Nick,I can put memory limits into racluster(), but then there is the possibililtythat you get different results based on the available space. I'm not surethat is the right way to go, but who knows, it maybe a great option.The trick to keeping racluster memory use down is to:1. filter input data2. change the flow model definition to reduce the number of flows,3. use the "idle=timeout" option on items in the racluster.conf file.This all needs to be customized for each site, so working with theracluster.conf file is the way to go, and running different .conf filesagainst one sample test data file allows you fine tune the configuration.Getting darknet traffic out of the mix is important. For many sites"all the flows" are really scans, and should be ignored, 99.999%of the time. I track if something new responds to a scan, not that thescan exists, because there is always a scan, because many of the sitesthat I pay attention to have literally 100,000's of scans a day. As aresult, we want to pay attention to the originator of the scan, the scantype, if the addresses involved are real, if its coming from inside or outsideand if there was a "new" response. Sloughing scan traffic to toolsthat do scan analysis, and tracking the other flows makes thisa doable thing, and programs like radark()/rafilteraddr() help here(but they are just examples).For traffic you really want to track, modifying the flow model allowsus to reduce the number of flow caches, say, by ignoring the sourceport for flows going to well known servers. Lines like this:filter="dst host 1.2.3.4 and src pkts eq 1 and dst pkts eq 1 and dst port 53" model="saddr/16 daddr proto dport"will reduce the number of in memory caches for this DNS server tojust the number of class B networks hitting the server. The filteronly applies to successful connections, and the resulting aggregationrecord will contain stats like the number of connections and avgdur.(I'm assuming here that you will run racluster() against a file).You can have literally 1000's of these filters to generate the datayou really want.When a flow hits its idle time, racluster will write out the record (ifneeded) and deallocate the memory used for that flow. So havingaggressive idle times is very helpful.But now that I'm thinking about it, we don't really have a way offlushing records based on the flow state for flows that are being mergedtogether. What I mean by that, is that if a TCP connection has 12 statusrecords, and we finally get the last one that "closes" the connection,there isn't a way, currently, for us to check to see if that flow shouldbe "flushed".Possibly we should take the resulting merged record, and run it backthrough the filters to see if there is something we need to do with it.Well, anyway, keep sending email if any of this is useful.CarterOn Feb 28, 2008, at 1:25 PM, Nick Diel wrote:Carter,
Thanks for all of your input. Also thanks for the updated Argus.
After reading what you said, I can understand why Argus was designed the way it was. I was just initially evaluating Argus with some very simple and discrete examples. Looking at some of the source code also helped me wrap my head around Argus.
On to the memory issue. The system I am using has 2GB in it and racluster wants to use all of it. When 1.7GB< starts to get used by racluster heavy swapping occurs and racluster's cpu usage drops below 25%. So this was why I was thinking out loud about potentially giving racluster a memory limit from the command line. This way the system could avoid the heavy swapping and just have racluster write out the oldest records before moving on.
Again thanks for putting up with me as I start to understand Argus.
Nick
Carter Bullard wrote:Hey Nick,The problem with packet capture, is primarily the disk performance.Argus can go as fast as you can collect packets, assuming thatyou're using Endace cards, and although argus does great in thepresence of packet loss, it generates its best results when it getseverything.The best architecture is to run argus on the packet capture box,and to blow argus records to another machine that does the diskoperations to store records. This division of labor works best forthe 10Gbps capture facilities.We sort input file names in the ra* programs, so doing this forargus is a cut, copy, paste job. No problem, I'll put it in this week.Argus can read from stdin.There are many incantations that work to decrease the memorydemands of an argus client. Just really need to know what it isthat you want to do.OK, to your question.
Now let me ask about what I have been working on (merging flows across argus data files). First, if I was capturing with Argus (not reading pcap files, capturing off the wire: argus | raspilt) wouldn't I run into the same problem of having flows broken up across different argus files?
If racluster is merging records as it finds them (not reading all records into memory first), it seems it might be nice to specify a memory limit for racluster at command line. Then as racluster approaches the memory limit it could remove the oldest records from memory and print them to the output.Multiple argus status records spanning files. Well, yes that is the actual designgoal. When you think about most types of operations/security/performanceanalysis, you want to see flow data scoped over some time boundary. Regardlessof what that boundary is, whether its the last millisecond, second or minute or hour,you will have flows that span that boundary. There are a lot of flows that arepersistent, so you can't have a file big enough to hold complete flows, ....,really.But you don't seem to be too interested in really granular data, so you shouldmodify the ARGUS_FAR_STATUS_INTERVAL value to be something largerthan your file duration. That way argus generates only one record per flowper file. You use ra() to split files that are complete from those that maycontinue into the next file, using the "-E" option and then after you're donewith all the files you have, then run racluster() against these continuation files.for i in *pcap; do argus -S 5m -r $i -w $i.argus; donefor i in *argus; do ra -r $i -E $i.cont -w argus.out - tcp and ((syn or synack) and (fin or finack or reset)); doneracluster -r *.cont -w argus.outThey won't be sorted, but thats easy to do with an additional step:rasplit -M nomodify -r argus.out -M time 5m -w data/argus.%Y.%m.%d.%H.%M.%Srm argus.outrasort -R data -M replacera -R data -w argus.outrm -rf dataOr at least something like that should work. The "-M nomodify" is critical, as rasplit()with break records up into time boundaries if you don't specify this option, whichputs you back in trouble, if you're really trying to keep the flows together.Argus clients aren't suppose to consume more than, what 1GB of memory, so thereare limits in the code. Do you have a smaller machine than that?CarterOn Feb 25, 2008, at 2:01 PM, Nick Diel wrote:Carter,
First of all thanks for your detailed response and updated clients. And I am glad you like twists.
Let me tell you a little bit more about the research setup. The research project I am part of (made up of several universities in the US) has several collection boxes in different large commercial environments. The boxes were customized specifically for high speed packet capturing (RAID, Endace capture card, etc.). We will run a 12 hour capture and then analyze the capture for some time. Sometimes up to several months. So I do have time to correctly create my argus output files and do any other processing I need to do.
Some of the researchers focus on packet based research, where as other parts of the group focus more on flow based analysis. So Argus looks like a great match for us. Immediately after the capture, we can create Argus flow records and do our flow analysis with Argus clients.
So for my first question, is Argus capable of capturing at high line speeds (at least 1Gbit) where doing a packet capture using libpcap and a standard NIC may fail (libpcap dropping packets)? Or since Argus is flow based it doesn't care if it misses packets? Some of the anomalies we research require us to account for almost every packet in the anomaly, so say dropping every 100th or even every 1000th packet could hamper us. The reason I ask I about Argus high speed captures, is if it is very capable at high speeds, it would allow us to deploy more collection boxes (these boxes would then primarily be used by the flow based researchers). We wouldn't have to buy an expensive capture card for each collection box.
As for reading multiple files into Argus, one easy way to accomplish this would have Argus be able to read pcap files from stdin. Then one can use a utility such as mergecap or tcpslice to feed Argus a list of out of order files: mergecap -r /packets/*.pcap -w - | argus -r - ....
My files are named so chronological order equals lexical order so argus -r * would work in my case (this helps us with a number of utilities we use). I do understand actually implementing this in Argus would require probably a number of things such as dieing when files are out of order and then telling the user what order argus was reading the files. Though doing this would be quite faster then having tcpslice or mergecap feed Argus the pcap files.
Now let me ask about what I have been working on (merging flows across argus data files). First, if I was capturing with Argus (not reading pcap files, capturing off the wire: argus | raspilt) wouldn't I run into the same problem of having flows broken up across different argus files?
If racluster is merging records as it finds them (not reading all records into memory first), it seems it might be nice to specify a memory limit for racluster at command line. Then as racluster approaches the memory limit it could remove the oldest records from memory and print them to the output.
I was able to use your suggestion successfully to merge most of my flows together. Though I needed to make a few modifications to the filter. I moved parenthesis, "tcp and ((syn or synack) and ((fin or finack) or reset))" vs. "tcp and (((syn or synack) and (fin or finack)) or reset)." And I added "not con" to filter out the many, many packet scans, though this also does not merge syn-synack flows which exist at the end of the argus output files. This filter still caused most of the memory to be used, but not a whole lot of time was spent in the upper range where swapping was slowing the system to a crawl. Without "not con" I would reach the upper limits of memory usage quite fast and go into a crawl with the swapping.
Thanks again for all your help,
Nick
Carter Bullard wrote:Hey Nick,
The argus project from the very beginning has been trying
to get people away from capturing packets, and instead
capturing comprehensive flow records that account for every
packet on the wire. This is because capturing packets at modern
speeds seems impractical, and there are a lot of problems that can
be worked out without all that data.
So to use argus in the way you want to use argus is a bit of a
twist on the model. But I like twists ;o)print
>>> To start out with something simple I want to be able to count the number of flows over TCP port 25.
The easiest way to do that right now is to do something like this in bash:
% for i in pcap*; do argus -r $i -w - - tcp and port 25 | \
rasplit -M time 5m -w - argus.data/%Y/%m/%d/argus.%Y.%m.%d.%H.%M.%S ; \
done
That will put the tcp:25 "micro flow" argus records into a manageable
set of files. Now the files themselves need to be processed to
get the flows merged together:
% racluster -M replace -R argus.data
So now you'll get the data needed to ask questions, split into 5m bins,
so to speak. Changing the "5m" to "1h", "4h", or "1d", may generate
file structures that you can work with, but eventually you will hit a memory
wall. Without doing something clever.
Now that you have these intermediate files, in order to merge the
tcp flows that span multiple files, you will need to give racluster()
a different aggregation strategy than the default. Try a
racluster.conf file that contains these lines against the argus files
you have.
------- start racluster.conf ---------
filter="tcp and ((syn or synack) and ((fin or finack) or reset))" status=-1 idle=0
filter="" model="saddr daddr proto sport dport"
------- end racluster.conf --------
What this will do is:
1. any tcp connection that is complete, where we saw the beginning and the
end, just pass it through, don't track anything.
2. any partial tcp connection, track and merge records that match.
So it only allocates memory for flows that are 'continuation' records.
The output is unsorted, so you will need to run rasort() if you want
to do any time oriented operations on the output.
In testing this, I found a problem with parsing "-1" from the status
field in some weird conditions, so I fixed it. Grab the newest
clients from the dev directory if you want to try this method.
ftp://qosient.com/dev/argus-3.0/argus-clients-3.0.0.rc.69.tar.gz
Give that a try, and send email to the list with any kind of result
yiou get.
With so many pcap files, we probably need to make some other
changes.
The easiest way for you to do what you eventually want do,
would be for you to say something like this:
argus -r * -w - | rawhatever
This current won't work, and there is a reason, but maybe we
can change it. Argus currently can read multiple input files, but you
need to specify each file using a "-r filename -r filename " like command
line list. With 1000's of files, that is somewhat impractical. It is this
way on purpose, because argus really does need to see packets in time order.
If you try to do something like this:
argus -r * -w - | rasplit -M time 5m -w argus.out.%Y.%m.%d.%H.%M.%S
which is designed generate argus record files that represent packet
behavior with hard cutoffs every 5 minutes, on the hour; if the
packet files are not read in time order, you get really weird
results. It's as if the realtime argus was jumping into the future and
then into the past and then back to the future again.
Now, if you name your pcap files so they can be sorted, I can
make it so "argus -r *" can work. How do you name your pcap files?
Because argus has the same timestamps as the packets in your
pcap files, the timestamps can be used as an "external key" if
you will. If you build a database that has tuples (entries) like:
"pcap_filename start_time end_time"
then by looking at a single argus record, which has a start time
and an end time, you can find the pcap files that contain its packets.
And with something like perl and tcpdump or wireshark, you can
feed a simple shell to look in those pcap files looking for packets
with this type of filter:
( ether host $smac and $dmac) and (host $saddr and $daddr) and ports \
($sport and $dport)
and you get all the packets that are referenced in the record.
Carter
On Feb 21, 2008, at 4:49 PM, Nick Diel wrote:I am new to Argus, but have found it has great potential for the research project I work on. We collect pcap files from several high traffic networks (20k-100k packets/second). We collect for approximately 12 hours and have ~1000 pcap files that are roughly 500MB each.
I am wanting to do a number of different flow analysis and think Argus might be perfect for me. I am having a hard time grasping some of the fundamentals of Argus, but I think once I get some of the basics I will be able to really start to use Argus.
To start out with something simple I want to be able to count the number of flows over TCP port 25. I know I need to use RACluster to merge the Argus output (I have one argus file for each pcap file I have), that way I can combine identical flow records into one. I can do this fine on one argus output file, but I know many flows span the numerous files I have. I also know I can't load all the files at once into RACluster as it fills all available memory. So my question is how can I accomplish this while making sure I capture most flows that span multiple files.
Once I understand this, I hope to be able to do things like create a list of flow sizes (in bytes) for port 25. Basically I will be asking a lot of questions involving all flows that match a certain filter and I am not sure how to accommodate for flows spanning multiple files.
A separate question. I don't think Argus has this ability, but I wanted to know if the community already had a utility for this. I am looking into creating a DB of some sort that would match Argus's flow IDs to pcap file name(s) and packet numbers. This way one could extract the packets for a flow that needed further investigation.
And finally, thanks for the great tool. It does a number of things I have been doing manually for a while.
Thanks,
Nick
. I sometimes find asymetric routes
due to policy (i.e. CA*net4 accepts the route because its in the RR but a wrong
BGP filter somewhere in the path sends in back commodity). This shows up in
the commodity traffic report like this:
> >
> > but comes back in commodity:
> >
> >199.60.1.4 8,349,227,827 Tot 2,144,505,502 Out
> >6,204,722,325 In
> >
> > 128.252.252.48 6,115,420,960 0
> > 6,115,420,960
> > 128.252.252.48:22 6,115,420,960 0
> > 6,115,420,960
> >
This was someone in our CS department heading somewhere on I2 and
being bitten by a BGP filter, the out is 0 because it is on our C4 link
which is clear channel gig but the return is coming in commodity (130 megs,
saturated and packet shaped) which is both bandwidth restricted and costs
money. Reporting this up the line usually gets the filter corrected and
everybody wins (except the gigapops that have to correct the filter of
course
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