Werner Stucky | 12 Oct 2010 17:43

CORAID HBA with vblade

Hi Guys

I need to make a decision for going with a technology for a SAN for our VMWare ESXi environment.

I would very much like to go with AoE but I need to know that the standard is open and that there is no vendor lock-in.

Does the CORAID HBA which has drivers for ESXi allow me to connect to a linux server running vblade?
I would like to do initial testing with a linux box before making a decision.  I can easily start a iSCSI target and test but AoE seems a bit complicated in that I need a HBA, and then I still have not confirmation if this HBA will work.

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Tracy Reed | 13 Oct 2010 08:10

Re: CORAID HBA with vblade

On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 05:43:13PM +0200, Werner Stucky spake thusly:
> I need to make a decision for going with a technology for a SAN for our
> VMWare ESXi environment.

I use it with Xen quite successfully. Not the same, I know.

> I would very much like to go with AoE but I need to know that the
> standard is open and that there is no vendor lock-in.

I find that it is quite open. Both the target and initiator are available under
the GPL.

> Does the CORAID HBA which has drivers for ESXi allow me to connect to a
> linux server running vblade?

I was not aware that they made an HBA. Although I recall a while back (nearly
two years ago) running into someone (although I thought he was in France)
looking to bake AoE into an FPGA or something. Maybe this is what became of
that work. 

http://support.coraid.com/support/esx/faq.html might be useful to you.

> I would like to do initial testing with a linux box before making a
> decision.  I can easily start a iSCSI target and test but AoE seems a
> bit complicated in that I need a HBA, and then I still have not
> confirmation if this HBA will work.

You don't need an HBA to use AoE in general. I use the Linux aoe kernel module
initiator. ESXi, although it is based on Linux, does not have the aoe kernel
module initiator as far as I know. So the HBA may be your only way to go there.
But AoE itself is definitely not proprietary. That was a smart move by Coraid
or it would never have gone anywhere. I'm still a bit disappointed in Coraid's
marketing in that I am yet to meet anyone who has heard of AoE who isn't from
this list or I didn't introduce AoE to. The simplicity of AoE should be a huge
selling point but from what I can see it just isn't making much impact.

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Yacine Kheddache | 13 Oct 2010 12:26
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Re: CORAID HBA with vblade

Hi Werner,

For ESXi, HBA is a must have (vmware is closed source...) and Tracy has
pointed you to the right URL (ESX FAQ).

The best way IMHO for your testing is to use a Coraid Etherdrive and
HBAs, please contact a Coraid partner for a PoC or Try & Buy.

As this list is dedicated to the aoetools and driver community I suggest
we continue this discussion in private.

Regards,
Yacine.

On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 17:43 +0200, Werner Stucky wrote:
> Hi Guys
> 
> I need to make a decision for going with a technology for a SAN for
> our VMWare ESXi environment.
> 
> I would very much like to go with AoE but I need to know that the
> standard is open and that there is no vendor lock-in.
> 
> Does the CORAID HBA which has drivers for ESXi allow me to connect to
> a linux server running vblade?
> I would like to do initial testing with a linux box before making a
> decision.  I can easily start a iSCSI target and test but AoE seems a
> bit complicated in that I need a HBA, and then I still have not
> confirmation if this HBA will work.
> 
> Regards
> 
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Roland Kletzing | 13 Oct 2010 20:14
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Re: CORAID HBA with vblade

> For ESXi, HBA is a must have (vmware is closed source...)
i can`t follow that argument..
what has closed source source to do with that ?

btw - many people believe esx is closed source, but many parts of esx are 
open source,
including many parts of the esx kernel, which  has many drivers derived from 
linux drivers.

have a look at
http://downloads.vmware.com/d/details/esx41_os_s/ZHcqYmRwd2piZHdlZQ==

VMware ESX/ESXi 4.1 OSS Open Source Code
http://download3.vmware.com/software/open-source/VMware-esx-4.1-GA_part1.oss.tgz
http://download3.vmware.com/software/open-source/VMware-esx-4.1-GA_part2.oss.gz
http://download3.vmware.com/software/open-source/VMware-esx-4.1-GA_part3.oss.tgz

so, the question is if an AoE HBA is really a necissity or just an 
artificial "hack" to get AoE
into ESX without signinig NDA´s for driver development.....
(maybe Vmware does not even allow such low-level development, as it is owned 
by EMC,
which is a storage company....)

regards
roland

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To: "Werner Stucky" <werner@...>
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Subject: Re: [Aoetools-discuss] CORAID HBA with vblade

> Hi Werner,
>
> For ESXi, HBA is a must have (vmware is closed source...) and Tracy has
> pointed you to the right URL (ESX FAQ).
>
> The best way IMHO for your testing is to use a Coraid Etherdrive and
> HBAs, please contact a Coraid partner for a PoC or Try & Buy.
>
> As this list is dedicated to the aoetools and driver community I suggest
> we continue this discussion in private.
>
> Regards,
> Yacine.
>
> On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 17:43 +0200, Werner Stucky wrote:
>> Hi Guys
>>
>> I need to make a decision for going with a technology for a SAN for
>> our VMWare ESXi environment.
>>
>> I would very much like to go with AoE but I need to know that the
>> standard is open and that there is no vendor lock-in.
>>
>> Does the CORAID HBA which has drivers for ESXi allow me to connect to
>> a linux server running vblade?
>> I would like to do initial testing with a linux box before making a
>> decision.  I can easily start a iSCSI target and test but AoE seems a
>> bit complicated in that I need a HBA, and then I still have not
>> confirmation if this HBA will work.
>>
>> Regards
>>
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Yacine Kheddache | 13 Oct 2010 20:34
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Re: CORAID HBA with vblade

Roland,

I know where you are coming from and can not argue regarding this point.
For me closed source here mean : vmware is not an open source
solution... in comparaison with xen.org, kvm, qemu or proxmox ve.

I'm pretty sure Coraid did not have had the choice on this point but it
is a question to ask to Vmware and/or Coraid.

We are more or less in the same situation with Citrix XenServer but have
been able to release and maintain a community package for 3 years :
http://support.coraid.com/support/linux/distros/xensource.html
http://download.alyseo.com:81/contrib/Xensource/v5.6/AoE/
http://forums.citrix.com/thread.jspa?threadID=270988

So if it was easy to do the same on vmware then I can not imagine no one
have released something so far... maybe a new community project to
launch ?

Regards,
Yacine

On Wed, 2010-10-13 at 20:14 +0200, Roland Kletzing wrote:
> > For ESXi, HBA is a must have (vmware is closed source...)
> i can`t follow that argument..
> what has closed source source to do with that ?
> 
> btw - many people believe esx is closed source, but many parts of esx are 
> open source,
> including many parts of the esx kernel, which  has many drivers derived from 
> linux drivers.
> 
> have a look at
> http://downloads.vmware.com/d/details/esx41_os_s/ZHcqYmRwd2piZHdlZQ==
> 
> VMware ESX/ESXi 4.1 OSS Open Source Code
> http://download3.vmware.com/software/open-source/VMware-esx-4.1-GA_part1.oss.tgz
> http://download3.vmware.com/software/open-source/VMware-esx-4.1-GA_part2.oss.gz
> http://download3.vmware.com/software/open-source/VMware-esx-4.1-GA_part3.oss.tgz
> 
> so, the question is if an AoE HBA is really a necissity or just an 
> artificial "hack" to get AoE
> into ESX without signinig NDA´s for driver development.....
> (maybe Vmware does not even allow such low-level development, as it is owned 
> by EMC,
> which is a storage company....)
> 
> regards
> roland
> 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Yacine Kheddache" <yacine <at> alyseo.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 12:26 PM
> To: "Werner Stucky" <werner <at> stucky-solutions.net>
> Cc: <aoetools-discuss <at> lists.sourceforge.net>
> Subject: Re: [Aoetools-discuss] CORAID HBA with vblade
> 
> > Hi Werner,
> >
> > For ESXi, HBA is a must have (vmware is closed source...) and Tracy has
> > pointed you to the right URL (ESX FAQ).
> >
> > The best way IMHO for your testing is to use a Coraid Etherdrive and
> > HBAs, please contact a Coraid partner for a PoC or Try & Buy.
> >
> > As this list is dedicated to the aoetools and driver community I suggest
> > we continue this discussion in private.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Yacine.
> >
> > On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 17:43 +0200, Werner Stucky wrote:
> >> Hi Guys
> >>
> >> I need to make a decision for going with a technology for a SAN for
> >> our VMWare ESXi environment.
> >>
> >> I would very much like to go with AoE but I need to know that the
> >> standard is open and that there is no vendor lock-in.
> >>
> >> Does the CORAID HBA which has drivers for ESXi allow me to connect to
> >> a linux server running vblade?
> >> I would like to do initial testing with a linux box before making a
> >> decision.  I can easily start a iSCSI target and test but AoE seems a
> >> bit complicated in that I need a HBA, and then I still have not
> >> confirmation if this HBA will work.
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
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Tracy Reed | 13 Oct 2010 22:44

Re: CORAID HBA with vblade

On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 08:14:04PM +0200, Roland Kletzing spake thusly:
> > For ESXi, HBA is a must have (vmware is closed source...)
> i can`t follow that argument..
> what has closed source source to do with that ?

In this case what it means is you cannot compile and run the Linux kernel
initiator on it. Not easily anyway. And it certainly wouldn't be supported. The
original poster was worried about being locked into Coraid if he bought Coraid
storage and HBA's. He can make his own storage using whiteboxes and vblade if
he wanted to support/tune it himself (doable but not trivial). But when it
comes to the initiator he has little choice but to buy Coraid HBAs due to the
nature of ESXi.

> btw - many people believe esx is closed source, but many parts of esx are 
> open source,
> including many parts of the esx kernel, which  has many drivers derived from 
> linux drivers.

It doesn't take too many closed parts or heavily modified non-community
supported forked drivers derived from the open source drivers to remove all of
the utility of being open source.

> so, the question is if an AoE HBA is really a necissity or just an 
> artificial "hack" to get AoE
> into ESX without signinig NDA´s for driver development.....

I doubt this question has little practical value for the original poster.

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Jeff Sturm | 13 Oct 2010 23:21
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User-mode AoE initiator?

Curious whether such a thing exists.  We use the Linux aoe kernel module extensively, but there are situations in which a driver in user space could help work around some of the shortcomings of the kernel module.  It would probably be more portable as well.

 

Does a user-mode driver exist in a source tree anywhere?  Has anyone thought about or starting working on such a project?

 

-Jeff

 

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Gert Huisman | 13 Oct 2010 22:30
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Re: CORAID HBA with vblade

Hi Roland,

De HBA is only a necissity on ESX, but coraid is promoting the HBA for 
other operating systems too. You can download drivers for the HBA for 
Windows, Linux, Solaris and ESX. (see 
http://www.coraid.com/support/downloads). There are existing software 
drivers for AoE on Solaris,
OS/X, FreeBDS,  and  Windows, but all the pointers to these drivers are 
removed from Coraids website, with an exception for the Linux aoe module.

We use Coraid boxes with both the HBA and the software driver on solaris 
(nexenta), and with the software driver on linux. It all works without 
problems. With the software drivers it can be a bit more work to get 
things working and to do proper monitoring. I guess coraid is promoting 
the HBA's over the software drivers, because it offers less oppertunity 
to make crappy configurations (i.e. they can give more reliable specs).

Gert Huisman

Roland Kletzing wrote:
>> For ESXi, HBA is a must have (vmware is closed source...)
>>      
> i can`t follow that argument..
> what has closed source source to do with that ?
>
> btw - many people believe esx is closed source, but many parts of esx are
> open source,
> including many parts of the esx kernel, which  has many drivers derived from
> linux drivers.
>
> have a look at
> http://downloads.vmware.com/d/details/esx41_os_s/ZHcqYmRwd2piZHdlZQ==
>
> VMware ESX/ESXi 4.1 OSS Open Source Code
> http://download3.vmware.com/software/open-source/VMware-esx-4.1-GA_part1.oss.tgz
> http://download3.vmware.com/software/open-source/VMware-esx-4.1-GA_part2.oss.gz
> http://download3.vmware.com/software/open-source/VMware-esx-4.1-GA_part3.oss.tgz
>
> so, the question is if an AoE HBA is really a necissity or just an
> artificial "hack" to get AoE
> into ESX without signinig NDA´s for driver development.....
> (maybe Vmware does not even allow such low-level development, as it is owned
> by EMC,
> which is a storage company....)
>
> regards
> roland
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Yacine Kheddache"<yacine@...>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 12:26 PM
> To: "Werner Stucky"<werner@...>
> Cc:<aoetools-discuss@...>
> Subject: Re: [Aoetools-discuss] CORAID HBA with vblade
>
>    
>> Hi Werner,
>>
>> For ESXi, HBA is a must have (vmware is closed source...) and Tracy has
>> pointed you to the right URL (ESX FAQ).
>>
>> The best way IMHO for your testing is to use a Coraid Etherdrive and
>> HBAs, please contact a Coraid partner for a PoC or Try&  Buy.
>>
>> As this list is dedicated to the aoetools and driver community I suggest
>> we continue this discussion in private.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Yacine.
>>
>> On Tue, 2010-10-12 at 17:43 +0200, Werner Stucky wrote:
>>      
>>> Hi Guys
>>>
>>> I need to make a decision for going with a technology for a SAN for
>>> our VMWare ESXi environment.
>>>
>>> I would very much like to go with AoE but I need to know that the
>>> standard is open and that there is no vendor lock-in.
>>>
>>> Does the CORAID HBA which has drivers for ESXi allow me to connect to
>>> a linux server running vblade?
>>> I would like to do initial testing with a linux box before making a
>>> decision.  I can easily start a iSCSI target and test but AoE seems a
>>> bit complicated in that I need a HBA, and then I still have not
>>> confirmation if this HBA will work.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports
>>> standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1,  ECMAScript5, and DOM L2&  L3.
>>> Spend less time writing and  rewriting code and more time creating great
>>> experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today.
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>>>        
>> -- 
>> Yacine Kheddache     Tel: +33 (0)6 60 66 81 53
>> http://www.alyseo.com/  -http://www.coraid.fr/
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Hilko Bengen | 14 Oct 2010 09:37
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Re: User-mode AoE initiator?

* Jeff Sturm:

> Does a user-mode driver exist in a source tree anywhere? Has anyone
> thought about or starting working on such a project?

As far as I know, no such driver exists and I am unaware of any
interface in the Linux kernel that is meant for implementing block
device drivers in user-space.

One could implement it using the NBD (Network block device) protocol
over an AF_UNIX socketpair.

Cheers,
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devzero | 14 Oct 2010 18:31
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Re: User-mode AoE initiator?

maybe this is interesting for you ?

https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/37461/

+config BLK_DEV_ABUSE
+	tristate "ABUSE user space block device driver"
+	---help---
+	  This driver allows block devices to be implemented in userspace.
+	  It is completely useless and is a massive abuse of the layering
+	  of the kernel.  Unless of course you write a userspace driver
+	  for it, in which case you can create arbitrary block devices.
+
+	  Just don't try to swap over it.
+
+	  To compile this driver as a module, choose M here: the
+	  module will be called abuse.
+
+	  Most users will answer N here.
+

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: "Hilko Bengen" <bengen <at> hilluzination.de>
Gesendet: 14.10.2010 09:37:54
An: aoetools-discuss <at> lists.sourceforge.net
Betreff: Re: [Aoetools-discuss] User-mode AoE initiator?

>* Jeff Sturm:
>
>> Does a user-mode driver exist in a source tree anywhere? Has anyone
>> thought about or starting working on such a project?
>
>As far as I know, no such driver exists and I am unaware of any
>interface in the Linux kernel that is meant for implementing block
>device drivers in user-space.
>
>One could implement it using the NBD (Network block device) protocol
>over an AF_UNIX socketpair.
>
>Cheers,
>-Hilko
>
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Beautiful is writing same markup. Internet Explorer 9 supports
standards for HTML5, CSS3, SVG 1.1,  ECMAScript5, and DOM L2 & L3.
Spend less time writing and  rewriting code and more time creating great
experiences on the web. Be a part of the beta today.
http://p.sf.net/sfu/beautyoftheweb
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