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Mike Westerfield | 1 Sep 2006 03:01

Re: New Chip Taylor CD

No postage charge - now that's impressive, even if it took 6 weeks to 
get to ya.:) I am curious, though, as to who you bought it from.
FYI, we'll be featuring that Chip album, as well as the new Dylan, when 
STRR stirs back to live life sometime this weekend as our Summer 
vacation (of sorts) ends.
Mike

bob bryan wrote:
> Just recieved the new double cd by Chip Taylor "Unglorious Hallelujah/Red Red Rose and Other Songs of
Love,Pain & Destruction".
>   Track 2 is a song called "What would Townes Say?" Great song namechecking Townes,John,Guy,Steve & Lucinda.
>   Chorus goes......"I Thought I'd Feel Bad,But I've Taken A Turn For The Worse.......Think I'll Get Me To
Church.......What Would Townes Say About That......Would He Just Sing Me Off To Some Place In The Sky
Where Sad Angels Fly.....And Love's Worth The Hurtin'.....'Cause All In Good Time...Everybody's
Wavin' Goodbye".
>   Great deal from www.trainwreckrecords.com
>   Ordered Tuesday from the States,delivered in England Thursday and no postage charge!!!
>   Bob
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Flannery64 | 1 Sep 2006 10:19

Re: Re: 'Be Here To Love Me' (Dave who?)

In a message dated 8/31/2006 3:22:43 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
rhythmairesuk <at> yahoo.co.uk writes:

<<Hi,
I never said that he was a paedophile, and would never  make unfounded 
allegations of that nature about  anyone,>>
Oh, no, nununnnunun...That bit about him NOT being a pedophile (everybody  
remember the NOT) was from a google search I did that brought up that statement  
and a link.  If anybody wants to follow it, go type in the guy's name on  
google.com.  Maybe some friends thought that would be a really funny way to  
publicize him...? It is to wonder.

<<I just found his inclusion somewhat out of context and  irrelevant. I just 
find that sort of  affected pesona annoying (at least  Morrissey has a sense 
of self 
deprecating tongue-in-cheek irony). As far  as 'fragility' goes, we're 
all, as humans fragile. Townes was no  exception, probably more 
fragile than most, but it was a genuine  fragility, he didn't have to 
affect it by performing vocally in an  approximation of 'Minnie Mouse!'>>
So true, but then I sometimes miss Tiny Tim as well.:)

Annery

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Flannery64 | 1 Sep 2006 10:23

Re: Re: 'Be Here To Love Me' (Dave who?)

In a message dated 8/31/2006 9:24:07 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
ddmevpak <at> prodigy.net writes:

<<Annery, I waved to Townes across the street one time and am  
available for an interview anytime that works for you.   (smile.)   
David E. >>
Okeydoke!

I'm not sure a mutual wave constitutes *knowing* him, but  it definitely 
constitutes a relationship for my purposes.  

My people will be in touch.

Ciao,
Annery

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bob bryan | 1 Sep 2006 22:11

Re: New Chip Taylor CD

Mike,I purchased it (together with Carrie's new solo cd) from the site Chip links to which is www.trainwreckrecords.com
  I'm pleasantly surprised at how much I like the new Dylan too,
  Bob

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Mary Liz Locke | 2 Sep 2006 19:14

Dylan

And it gets better with each listen. I love it. I may go so far as to say its a masterpiece.

Mary

Mike,I purchased it (together with Carrie's new solo cd) from the site Chip links to which is www.trainwreckrecords.com
I'm pleasantly surprised at how much I like the new Dylan too,
Bob

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Wrecks Bell | 3 Sep 2006 05:41

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Chunky | 3 Sep 2006 05:45

Re: 'Be Here To Love Me' (Dave who?)

Stuart. Glad to see you here! Everyone passes through at some time...

> Touche.  Of course, this makes you one of those many everyones who 
> *knew* Townes Van Zandt, which means you've either already         
> given your exclusive interview to John Kruth, or will be hearing   
> from one of us real soon.

Too late, Annery! I already got Stuart's Townes story about 4 or 5 
years ago at a pub called The Original Ship in Leyland, Lancashire. 
He also promised a photo - but I never saw that. 

Taking a chance to blow Stuart's trumpet for him (if that doesn't 
sound too crude) he is a very talented singer-songwriter working in 
areas not too distant from those covered by Townes. He's exactly one 
of those artists that Westy recently urged people should check out.

FWIW I too have never been able to see the attraction of Devendra 
Banhart - although he inspires cult-leader-like devotion in his fans.

Back to lurk mode.

Steve

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Tom Montgomery | 3 Sep 2006 18:55

Dylan's new CD Modern Times

I agree with Mary re this new Dylan album. The person who reviewed the CD in the most recent Rolling Stone (not
a big fan of that mag compared to Mojo, No Depression and Paste, but I started getting it again because some
teenager came selling magazines for some trip or something) gave it 5 of 5 stars and says the last three
Dylan records were "masterpieces". Not sure if that is true when you compare them to how well records like
Blonde on Blonde have held up but certainly worth listening to...my review:

Dylan tix are on sale 10 am next Sunday 9/10. I really like his new record Modern Times (Columbia) ...from the
rocking and rollicking "Thunder on the Mountain" on through to the slow mysterious and beautifully
played "Ain't Talkin'" it is a record chock full of kicking rockers and fine song & dance numbers. Nothing
that new and earthshattering here, the first tune (and perhaps another one or two) are totally in the Chuck
Berry groove, w/ Thunder almost sounding like a slowed down Johnny B. Goode. I love "Spirit on the Water"
and "The Levee's Gonna Break" is very topical one year after Katrina...and the song kicks ass! I guess no
one quite spins a tale like Dylan and the band sounds great. Bob Dylan, the voice of his generation, just
keeps talking to us. He's still worth a listen. It sounds cliched but I guess he is like a fine wine, maybe not
repeating his seminal 60s work but c
ertainly aging well and still pumping out great songs and continuing on his never ending tour. For some of us
I guess we've just come to *expect* brilliance, at least of some level, from Dylan every time out. "Someday
Baby" and "Nettie Moore" ("..the world has gone black before my eyes") are two more great tracks but I like
all of these songs.

"I got the porkchops, she got the pie/She ain't no angel and neither am I/Shame on your greed, shame on your
wicked schemes/I'll say this, I don't give a damn about your dreams..." - "Thunder on the Mountain" / Bob
Dylan from Modern Times

"I paid my time and now I'm good as new/I paid my time and now I'm as good as new/They can't take me back unless I
want 'em to.." - "The Levee's Gonna Break" / Bob Dylan from Modern Times

"Some people on the road carryin' everything that they own/Some people on the road carryin' everything
they own/Some people got barely enough skin to cover their bones" - "The Levee's Gonna Break" / Bob Dylan
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Tom Montgomery | 3 Sep 2006 20:14

in the Beginning...

Townes Folk:

In case there are any of you out there that do not have In the Beginning I thought I'd say a word or two about it.
The cd came out in 2003 on TVZ Records / Compadre records. There are ten tracks and liner notes by John Lomax
III about the record noting that the songs are from 1966, two years before his first record would come out.
I'm sure that there was some discussion about the record when it was first released and I've listened to it a
bunch of times but perhaps not in as focused a way as when I went for a walk yesterday and listened to all the
tracks. I really like the record. The record was produced by Jack Clement (Cowboy Jack Clement) w/
executive producer, Jeanene. No covers here, all TVZ songs. All the songs are good. I particularly like
some of the material towards the end of the CD like "Black Jack Mama" ("Roll me over easy mama, roll me over
slow..."), "When Your Dre
am Lovers Die", "Colorado Bound", "Big Country Blues", where after Mississippi, the Manitoba line, Gulf
of Mexico, Maine, El Paso, Nevada, Dakota, Minnesota he "...followed the sun out west to Caliiforn, there
just ain't no place left for me to go." The last song, "Black Crow Blues" is TVZ all the way, "..the black
crow's a-screaming, the yellow sun's warm/The grass tumbles tall down the hill/There's a cold wind ins
building, it's bringin' a storm/When the call of the black crow goes still/ When the call of the black crow
goes still". I'd love to have a working turntable and a copy of this in 33 1/3 rpm so that I could see the
artwork and photos better. The cover has a photo of Townes w/ a bb gun at 2, there is an excellent photo of
Townes in the studio (Ann Amendolagine), Townes w/ an ax standing w/ dog Geraldine alongside (Bill
Dibble), Townes w/ a bottle of Jack Daniels (unknown
) a great photo of Townes on a horse (unknown, I guess, estate of TVZ) and some great work by Will incl painted
Townes Truck, "Townes' Boot" and "Big Country Blues" and "Black Crow Blues" and a really fine painted
portrait of Townes by Melene (Melene Marie Brown from this list) called "Townes with Cowboy Hat". The cd
has a back of insert notation "Dedicated to Mickey Newbury, who was much more than a good friend. Thanks for
finding Townes. And God bluess Susan and the kids." - obviously written by Jeanene.

- Tom Montgomery, Berkeley CA

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Douglas Puchowski | 3 Sep 2006 17:47

Re: Davendra Banhart

Although his comments in Be Here to Love Me weren't very interesting, nor his version of Colarado Girl very
good, he is  a talented young man, emphasis on young, as he's about 25 and has a  half-dozen records out, most
of them on tiny labels. His influences are  broad--Captain Beefheart, Joseph Spence, Caetano Veloso,
Marc Bolan,  Tim Buckley, TVZ, and I assume some avant-garde poets, since he said in  an interview on WFMU a
few years back that his professor, the  avant-poet Bill Berkson, was one of the first people that
encouraged  him to write. He used to play regularly to a mostly empty room at Tonic  in NYC. 

 		
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