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ben | 1 Aug 1997 01:11

Loser-palooza, Vestax Tables


Yay...Yesterday I went and spun (first) at the Brain Forest Tent of 
Lollapalooza.  They had all Vestax gear.  The Vestax tables are kinda nice, 
and it was very very nice of Vestax to sponsor the tent...BUT...I don't 
think any of the djs there (or anywhere else on the Lollapalooza tour) had 
ever used those tables before.

My opinion (in case you care) : Those things are nice.  I believe there are 
2 popular vestax pro dj turntables in use right now.  The ones we were on 
were the shittier of the 2.  They went from +-3 to +-6 to +-12, and you 
could play records in reverse, as well as do other interesting things with 
the speed.  Only problem was that you needed a manual to be able to figure 
out some of the functions.  Having never used them before, I didn't know 
how to do some of the cooler things.
        Aside from that, I didn't like them.  They didn't have the feel of 
a Technics turntable.  It was harder to beatmatch with them, but only 
because I wasn't used to them.  Towards the end of my set, they were easier 
to use...So the learning curve from technics to vestax isn't that bad.
        Hip Hop tricks : I felt like the tables were build very well, and 
they felt very sturdy.  The platter didn't move at all when I pushed on it; 
however, they were using Stanton Groovemaster carts.  BLAH YUCK 
BLEAUGH...No thanks.  I didn't like them at all.  Back-Cueing sucked.  I'd 
rather use a pair of Shure SC35C's, or Ortofons any day.  So, don't bother 
trying tricks unless you're a normal stanton trackmaster user.
        The mixing board was pretty shitty.  It was this great Vestax 
mixer, but the gain control and the main volume control were both soldered 
in place so that you couldn't tweak them.  That's great protection for the 
soundman, but I don't think he's ever mixed records in his life.  As all 
you djs know, some pressings are quieter than others.  So if you have a low 
pressing, don't bother playing it, it will sound like shit.
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Laurence Y Maar | 1 Aug 1997 02:08
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[HARDCORE] Upcoming Events : August!!! =)


  For all you HARDCORE heads out there, this is the August listing of
  upcoming events on our site covering Arizona, California, Carolina,
  Minnesota, Texas and Wisconsin!!

		http://www.ravenetwork.com/~hardcore

  Arizona
	Hiatus		Aug 9th

  California
	Hysteria	August 2nd
	Opium 97	August 9th
	Adrenalin	August 16th
	Bass Invaders 2	August 23rd
	PEP		August 23rd

  Carolina, North
	Fantastic Four	August 15th

  Minnesota
	Epiphany	August 15th

  Texas
	Resurrection	August 16th

  Wisconsin
	Turn		August 8th
	Circle		August 30th
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Eric | 1 Aug 1997 02:16
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Re: Loser-palooza, Vestax Tables

> My opinion (in case you care) : Those things are nice.  I believe there are 
> 2 popular vestax pro dj turntables in use right now.  The ones we were on 
> were the shittier of the 2.  They went from +-3 to +-6 to +-12, and you 
> could play records in reverse, as well as do other interesting things with 
> the speed.  Only problem was that you needed a manual to be able to figure 
> out some of the functions.  Having never used them before, I didn't know 

I've had the other model of Vestax tables for about 6 months now, and like
them better than Technics. The pitch goes is +-10, and there's no reverse
or anything. There is a pitch meter that is independent from the slider,
which is easier to use for calibration than using the dots on the side of
the platter. Probably the most useful feature is that there is a pitch
lock button to lock the pitch to 0 rather than automatically locking in
the middle of the slider. I've never used a pair of Technics where the
pitch was exactly right around the 0, they always jump up and/or down
above and below 0 so you basically lose the whole area around there. I
find the Vestax motors much stronger than that on 1200's. The only thing I
don't find better is the tone-arm which doesn't seem quite as stable - I
only notice this when scratching. On the other hand the anti-skating goes
up to 7, I find that the anti-skating on 1200's never goes up quite enough
to get the arm to be stable. The counter-weight on the arm will also go up
to about 7 grams (Technics go up to 3.5 or 4, I think), which means no
more nickels and pennies when spinning in rooms with less-than-stable
floors.
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michael mccusty | 1 Aug 1997 05:06
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FWD: HAPPY: HULLABALOO! 2 - Sept 6, 1997 - Toronto, Canada

a few people posted talking about "old skool" parties.
thought i would forward this...

>HULLABALOO! returns once again with it's next production called
>'Return of the Vibe' because that's what we're doing - bringing back
>the fun rave spirit of the oldschool while mixing it in with new.
>Featuring fun and upbeat music the whole night bringing you a
>selection of Happy Hardcore, oldschool rave, breakbeat, house, techno,
>and whatever else, as long as its FUN! This party is dedicated to
>everyone who comes for the right reasons. So put on your dancing
>shoes, grab your whistles, horns, lighters, glow sticks, white gloves,
>funky clothes, face paint, and prepare for the time of your life! you
>know the score.
>
>-----The DREAM Magazine World Tour-------
>|DJ Spinback  - London, England
>|Founder of London's infamous pirate radio station Dream FM, Vertigo
>|Playing an extended set of oldschool, jungle and happy hardcore
>|
>|MC Ruff - London, England
>|Formerly of The Prodigy, Londons #1 Hardcore MC
>------------------------------------------------------
>
>DJ Flex - Rochester, New York
>SkyBaby, House & Techno.
>
>Hugh Sharpe - Brooklyn, New York
>Quickly becoming one of Toronto's Goa Trance favorites
>
>Synergist - Rochester, New York
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Erinaceous -Hardhearted Harbinger of Haggis- | 1 Aug 1997 07:14
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Visit to Cincinnati...

Hi, kids.

As most of you know, I regularly reside in the Western areas of our
geographically-categorized "midwest" region.  I have the opportunity,
however, to make a rare trip "east" for 6 days next week.
...I hope to bring back for my king some of the jewels, gold, and spices
that we have heard originate in the mysterious eastern lands...*ahem*
Maybe not.

Anyway, I've already spoken to several kids from the area with whom I chat
on a regular basis about hanging out, but am most assuredly open to meeting
up with anyone else who wants to get together.  If you reside in the area
and would like to chance a meeting with someone from the "other  side,"
then go ahead and let me know with a PERSONAL reply.  We can devise a plan
after having passed "Go" and collecting our $200.00.

Specifics:
Flying from Kansas City to Cincinnati.
Date of arrival in Cincy: Tuesday, August 5.
Date of return to KC: Sunday, August 10.

Thanks.  It'll be a fun trip for me regardless of whether I meet anyone or
not, but I'm always game to meet new kids.

Always,
    Malicious Erinaceous ;-}
 	...it rhymes for a reason.

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Eric | 1 Aug 1997 06:30
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Re: Needles, Genres, and Parties.

> 1. First, someone was talking about the Groovemaster cartridges sucking.
> Hmm, those were the ones I was going to buy, and since I'm just now
> starting to gather quality equipment, I don't have a lot of experience
> with various brands, etc. If you all would like to voice your opinions
> on which cartridges you think are good, and why, it would help me with
> my purchasing decision. All I know is that I want something good for
> backcueing, and I want a good, clean "PUNCH".

I'd definately stay away from the Groovemasters. I use Stanton 680s, which
I find have pretty good sound and don't skip much. As for more expensive
cartridges, the Ortofons are probably the best. When doing side-by-side
tests, I found them to have much punchier and brighter sound than either
the 680s or Groovemasters.A few people I've know have had problems with
them starting to short out or something after about 6 months. As for the
tracking, they're supposed to be better than anything else, but using an
Ortofon side by side with my 680s I actually found the 680 better for
scratching. The Ortofon needle may just have been worn down, I don't know.

Eric
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DaSfLuX | 1 Aug 1997 06:38
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Re: Frumpy the Clown

Yeah that's not right, damn old people picking on us.

DizE DC

DIE DIE DIE
DJ Funk gonna hurt somebody
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dj nitro | 1 Aug 1997 06:40
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Re: House Music


*** WARNING *** The following post contains sarcasm. I like disco house,
big hair and have no problem whatsoever with people who choose to have
relations with people of the same sex (or animals... or inanimate
objects... You know, I had this banana one time, and... oh. 

On Thu, 31 Jul 1997 04:11:15 -0400 (EDT) DJBillyC <at> aol.com writes:
><< well man, the reason why house music djs are being excluded from >a
number of things is that anyone that did not play mainly house music 
> in this town has been excluded for alot of events, clubs, and special 
> happenings for a long time.  hell, most of the house played wasnt 
> breaking new ground.  It was sickening for alot of djs and music fans 
> (vs. "dancers" types) to have to hear endless cajual records and 
>disco house every fuckin time they went out.  know what I'm sayin?

Yeah.... those disco-house bastards... especially the ones with the big
hair... Faggots...

-=<keep on ravin'>=-
-/\/itro-
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Sai | 1 Aug 1997 06:56
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Glad to be back

Hi's to everyone....It's been awhile since i re-subscribed to mw-raves
(2 years i think)..
Glad to know things are going strong.
Where did everyone go? :O)
New and Old friends e-mail me, i got a new addresse.
Peace.
Sai ::sigh::
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DJBillyC | 1 Aug 1997 07:29
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Disco House Freaks


In a message dated 7/31/97 11:41:55 PM, you wrote:

<<Yeah.... those disco-house bastards... especially the ones with the big
hair... Faggots...

-=<keep on ravin'>=-
-/\/itro-
>>

hehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehehe
Billy C
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