rahul nahire | 1 Dec 2010 02:26
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Re: Samunder - Ye Range Mehfil

Thanks Shashi!! Like Like Superlike, to your post !!

I don't understand technical aspects of music (as of now), but I got amazed by 
rhythm" and singing"; when I listened to this song for the first time few months 
before.
Asha Bhosale is incredible, Unusual singing (for other MDs) as usual (for RD"), 
ratter typical Panchamish" singing I should say.

 Thanks and Regards,

________________________________
Rahul Rajaram Nahire

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From: shashirao <shashirao@...>
To: pancham@...
Sent: Mon, 29 November, 2010 5:22:35 PM
Subject: [Pancham] Samunder - Ye Range Mehfil

  
Am currently listening to Range Mehfil from Samunder. The recording has been a 
satisfying euphoric experience to say the least. The difficulty is to get lost 
in listening to the song as opposed to doing any real work - like cleaning, 
recording and mastering. But that is the fun - everytime I emerge from the 
basement I am a renewed changed man - all excited and swaying to a strange tune.

Anyways...Range Mehfil is one of the crown jewela of not only Samunder but also 
Pancham's 90s composition. A followup in genre, style and treatment to their 
(Rahul Rawail, Sunny, Pancham) earlier hit Arjun-Dhadkan Pal Pal. This song has 
all the intricate and mature elements of a large scale cabaret. But the 
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Vineet | 1 Dec 2010 04:53
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Re: Samundar: Ye Range mehfil

Shashi said: "Each small note, rhythm pattern has a reason, a place and a way to play. How can one expect
anyone to be able to replay this back - either in a recording or live stage. Unless one understands the
nuances behind each sound intended by Pancham, any reproduction will come up as a watered down typical
Hindi film song."
 
Well said, Shashi. And that very nicely captures the quintessence of dear Pancham's compositions. Every
note, every composition, every murki, every nuance has a reason and a designated place in his
compositions. Which is why, so very often, the visuals didn't do justice to the richness of his ideas. I've
often felt that Pancham visualized a particular scene and mood better -  and delivered forcefully,
through his songs, orchestration, and background scores - leaving the actual visuals panting behind. 
 
Regards,
Vineet

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Dhruva Chowdhury | 1 Dec 2010 05:16
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Re: Re: Samundar: Ye Range mehfil

*Eloquently put, Vineet. You've done a Shashi! Exactly my feelings. The
goings on on-screen sort of take your concentration away from the nuances of
the song instead of enhancing the experience. *
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*Dhruva
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On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Vineet <vineet_u@...> wrote:

>
>
> Shashi said: "Each small note, rhythm pattern has a reason, a place and a
> way to play. How can one expect anyone to be able to replay this back -
> either in a recording or live stage. Unless one understands the nuances
> behind each sound intended by Pancham, any reproduction will come up as a
> watered down typical Hindi film song."
>
> Well said, Shashi. And that very nicely captures the quintessence of dear
> Pancham's compositions. Every note, every composition, every murki, every
> nuance has a reason and a designated place in his compositions. Which is
> why, so very often, the visuals didn't do justice to the richness of his
> ideas. I've often felt that Pancham visualized a particular scene and mood
> better -  and delivered forcefully, through his songs, orchestration, and
> background scores - leaving the actual visuals panting behind.
>
> Regards,
> Vineet
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
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pavanpooviahkc | 1 Dec 2010 05:32
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Re: Asha Bhosle and R D Burman song number 46


Excellent choice.... one of my favourites too.

Pooviah

--- In pancham@..., nimesh dand <dandnimesh <at> ...> wrote:
>
> The next in the captioned series is an Asha solo from the film KAUN KAISE 
> featuring Ranjeeta, Anita Raj, Deepak Parashar, Mithun chakraborthy,Shobha Khote 
> and others.
> This particular song picturized on Anita Raj is an excellent melody not in terms 
> of excellent orchestration but also as far as the singing goes of the evergreen 
> singer asha Bhosle.
> 
> The singer and the musicians make it an enriching experieince.
> One can just totally get engrossed in this song as Asha says,
> Main bhi hoon yahan, tu bhi hai yahan................................
> Listen to the antaras and it will become difficult for you not 
> to listen to this song again and again and again.
> such wonderful is the rendition of the playback singer that
> A person likes me cannot stop listening to the song a number
> of times.
> 
> While Rahulji expired in the year 1994 January, At the year end i.e on 31st 
> December 1994, On the celebrations of the new year Ashaji was invited and she 
> sang another number from this same film and that was aayega, aayega, mere sapnon 
> ka raaja ek din toh aayega..................................
> Exactly 11 months after the expiry of the legendary lovable composer R D Burman.
> Warm regards,
> Nimesh Dand.
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Shirish Prabhudesai | 1 Dec 2010 06:51
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Re: Samunder - Ye Range Mehfil

Not wishing to digress... but speaking of Samundar, another song that comes to mind is "Ae Saagar ki lehron"
- simply, simply mind-blowing...

Maybe this could elicit another write-up from Loin ? :p

--- On Wed, 1/12/10, rahul nahire <rahulandrd@...> wrote:

From: rahul nahire <rahulandrd@...>
Subject: Re: [Pancham] Samunder - Ye Range Mehfil
To: pancham@...
Date: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 6:56 AM

 
 

    

      
      Thanks Shashi!! Like Like Superlike, to your post !!

I don't understand technical aspects of music (as of now), but I got amazed by 

rhythm" and singing"; when I listened to this song for the first time few months 

before.

Asha Bhosale is incredible, Unusual singing (for other MDs) as usual (for RD"), 

ratter typical Panchamish" singing I should say.

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Sachin Kanjikar | 1 Dec 2010 07:35
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Re: Samunder - Ye Range Mehfil

or for "Ye Kori Karaari Kavaari Nazar" according to me the best song in this
album......Kishore Kumar takes the song to higher level....Orchestrization
is superb .......may be Loin can do a writeup on complete album :-)

Sachin
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 11:21 AM, Shirish Prabhudesai <
shirish_prabhudesai@...> wrote:

>
>
> Not wishing to digress... but speaking of Samundar, another song that comes
> to mind is "Ae Saagar ki lehron" - simply, simply mind-blowing...
>
> Maybe this could elicit another write-up from Loin ? :p
>
> --- On Wed, 1/12/10, rahul nahire <rahulandrd@...<rahulandrd%40yahoo.co.in>>
> wrote:
>
> From: rahul nahire <rahulandrd@... <rahulandrd%40yahoo.co.in>>
> Subject: Re: [Pancham] Samunder - Ye Range Mehfil
> To: pancham@... <pancham%40yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, 1 December, 2010, 6:56 AM
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Shashi!! Like Like Superlike, to your post !!
>
> I don't understand technical aspects of music (as of now), but I got amazed
> by
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pavanpooviahkc | 2 Dec 2010 07:34
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Re: Saare niyam thod do

 And then happened to listen to the Audio track of Asha's ` Sundar hoon aise mein ' from Dil ka Raja. There was
the the chorus repeat  .. Hare Krishna bolo Hare Krishna bolo Hare Hare Hare Raam. And this made the song
complete.    

And talking of chorus ( I mean not that of just repeating the lines of lead singers ) it would be exciting for us
all to discuss the songs where LoRD had effectively used them and the impact it had on us.

Pooviah 

--- In pancham@..., "pavanpooviahkc" <pavanpooviahkc <at> ...> wrote:
>
> 
> Was listening to this `revolutionary' and lovely Asha number from Khubsoorat. Had also seen the movie. 
> 
> In the movie, the aggrieved male dominated chorus ` Inquilab zindabad ' was there in the song and it
certainly added to the fun. But unfortunately this chorus was left out in the Audio track. What a pity !
> 
> Pooviah
>

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pavanpooviahkc | 3 Dec 2010 07:15
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Re: Saare niyam thod do

Ok friends, let me make the start.

Lets start with the ..... start ! I mean the prelude music or chorus , in this case.

How beautifully LoRD creates a platform ( how he sets it up, so to speak )with chorus, for the entry of the
vocals and for the singers to take forward can be best understood with the following examples that
immediately come to my mind :

1. O hansini ( Zahreela Insaan ) - really MIND BLOWING !!!! LoRD captures the mood of the hero / situation in
such a beautiful musical language ! Timeless !
2. Poocho na yaar kya hua / Rafi & Asha ( ZKDH ) - perfectly blending with the scene ( Tea garden )
3. Dil mein jo baaten hain / KK & Asha ( Joshila ) - same as above.
3. Hum tum gum sum / KK & Asha ( Humshakal )  - continues throughout the song, popping up at the most appropriate times.
4. Tu mera kya laage / KK & SA ( Oonche Log ) - same as above.
5. Le kar hum diwana dil / KK & Asha ( Yaadon ki Baaraat )- mainly Asha, but there was chorus also, wasn't there ?
Unforgettable !!!

Cheers / Pooviah

--- In pancham@..., "pavanpooviahkc" <pavanpooviahkc <at> ...> wrote:
>
>  And then happened to listen to the Audio track of Asha's ` Sundar hoon aise mein ' from Dil ka Raja. There was
the the chorus repeat  .. Hare Krishna bolo Hare Krishna bolo Hare Hare Hare Raam. And this made the song
complete.    
> 
> And talking of chorus ( I mean not that of just repeating the lines of lead singers ) it would be exciting for
us all to discuss the songs where LoRD had effectively used them and the impact it had on us.
> 
> Pooviah 
> 
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Sumon Bhattacharjee | 2 Dec 2010 07:57
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Re: Hi Nitin bhai

Hi...friends,

enjoy the title theme music of the film BIRODH....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2gmMY891zk&feature=related

On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:20 PM, nimesh dand <dandnimesh@...>wrote:

>
>
> Dear Nitinbhai,
>
> You very rightly mentioned about the fim Manzil Manzil and believe me the
> fim
> was an excellent one and it had all the ingridents required to be an
> excellent
> movie.Believe me after I watched the movie the song O meri jaan O meri jaan
> did
> not go out of my mind for days togather and till today when I listen to the
> Asha
> version of O meri jaan and the multiple ways in which she renders the same
> line
> in different tones and styles is mesmerizing, Even after so many years I
> have
> not been able to come out of the magic of the songs of this film including,
> Hey
> baba hey baba mar gaye tujh bin hey baba, O meri jaan O meri jaan and the
> most
> favourite of mine is the Shailendra Singh solo Jhalak dikha ke kar gayi
> deewana,
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Pinak Pal | 2 Dec 2010 09:54
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When R D Burman refused to compose a song for Raj Kapoor (from rediff.com)

http://www.rediff.com/movies/slide-show/slide-show-1-the-musical-scandals-of-bollywood/20101201.htm

"

*When R D Burman refused to compose a song for Raj Kapoor*

R D Burman 'Pancham' and Randhir Kapoor 'Dabboo' were good friends. Pancham
had been signed to score the music for Randhir's first directorial
film, *Dharam
Karam*. One of the songs needed to be picturised on Raj Kapoor.

Randhir told Pancham to compose that particular tune with Raj Kapoor
present. But Pancham got upset and said, 'Dabboo, you did not tell me that I
had to play a tune in front of Raj Kapoor, else I would have not signed the
film.'

The reason why Pancham reacted this way was that he had had a very bad
experience with Guru Dutt earlier. He had heard that Raj Kapoor was
difficult to work with as well.

Pancham said Guru Dutt 'drove me mad'. He would finalise a tune after
hearing a range of tunes, but cancel it at the very next sitting because his
vision would change by then. He would ask Pancham to compose another tune.
Pancham never understood what Guru Dutt really wanted.

Pancham thought Raj Kapoor was difficult while selecting tunes as well, and
so when Dabboo asked him to play a tune for his father Raj Kapoor, he
refused.

Randhir tried to reason with him, saying that Raj Kapoor was a very creative
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