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Ajit Damle | 1 Dec 2007 05:26
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Re: Walk the Bass with Pancham.

Hi Tamal!

  I am really surprised that you liked the song. It has some influence of  "Roop Tera Mastana", but doesn't go
anywhere, I think. 

  Ajit 

Tamal <tamal_dey@...> wrote:
          Hello All -

The following analysis may sound boaring to many
members. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience
caused and being less technical in the following
analysis.

Many a times few instruments that play a major role in
the melody of the song or rather pull the song to a
level of popularity do not get noticed amongst the
'masses'. By popularity, I mean the song getting a
boost that makes it appealing but most of the
listeners unknowingly do not realize those core sounds
or cannot feel the instruments that bumps up the core
song.

One such instrument in RD's camp was the Bass and
played by two bassists namely 'Charanjeet Singh' and
'Tony Vazz' (courtesy panchamonline.com). I personally
have great admiration for the later (Tony Vazz)
because of the shape he gave to pancham's 
numbers. I am not sure but I think from what I
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Amitabh Dey | 1 Dec 2007 05:31
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Re: Walk the Bass with Pancham.

I echoe Tamal's words. This song is a AWESOME Song, No Doubt in that!

Regards,
Amitabh # Bangalore

On Dec 1, 2007 9:56 AM, Ajit Damle <ajitdamle11@...> wrote:

>   Hi Tamal!
>
> I am really surprised that you liked the song. It has some influence of
> "Roop Tera Mastana", but doesn't go anywhere, I think.
>
> Ajit
>
>
> Tamal <tamal_dey@... <tamal_dey%40yahoo.com>> wrote:
> Hello All -
>
> The following analysis may sound boaring to many
> members. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience
> caused and being less technical in the following
> analysis.
>
> Many a times few instruments that play a major role in
> the melody of the song or rather pull the song to a
> level of popularity do not get noticed amongst the
> 'masses'. By popularity, I mean the song getting a
> boost that makes it appealing but most of the
> listeners unknowingly do not realize those core sounds
> or cannot feel the instruments that bumps up the core
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suwag11 | 1 Dec 2007 14:32
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Re: Walk the Bass with Pancham.

What a delightful song! And what superb analysis! It was a joy to 
read it.

You say your knowledge of music is little: you'll have to do a lot 
worse (or should I say better?) to convince me:).

For someone who does not usually listen with such attention to the 
finer aspects of orchestration, I am amazed by the depth of your 
analysis. 

RD's orchestration and arrangement were always special, exquisite, 
unlike some of his contemporaries who sounded as if they were banging 
together items of garden furniture (perhaps 25,000 of them, but that 
only increased the cacophony:))

As regards the use of bass guitar in RD's songs, two which come to my 
immediately (probably because I have been listeningto them of late) 
are 'Tere Bina Main' (Jaan E Jaan) and 'Nisha' (Sanam Teri Kasam). 
The way beginning of 'Tere Bina' is simply awesome. The background 
plucking of bass guitar when Asha says 'Nisha' is 'just too much':) I 
am sure there are many more instances of RD using bass guitar in an 
innovative way .

Coming back to the 'Ekanta Apon' song, does anyone know the year in 
which this song came out. The tune seemed very familiar, typical 
Burman, but I couldn't make out why. Did this tune find its way into 
Hindi?

Ajay
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NIRAJ SINHA | 1 Dec 2007 15:33
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Re: Walk the Bass with Pancham.

Dear Tamal

I live in Kolkata and have the privilege to listen to most of these songs, ofcourse RD Burman's magical tool
included Bass Guitar.
Recently we were doing a case in operation theatre ( I am an  Anaesthetist) and this song pyar me dil me maar de
goli was being aired on 91.9 FM, when the song ended the oncosurgeon blurted: sala kya heavy bass guitaring tha..............
there you go............Pancham's Bass guitar has many fans I think 

   
  Niraj
Tamal <tamal_dey@...> wrote:
          Hello All -

The following analysis may sound boaring to many
members. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience
caused and being less technical in the following
analysis.

Many a times few instruments that play a major role in
the melody of the song or rather pull the song to a
level of popularity do not get noticed amongst the
'masses'. By popularity, I mean the song getting a
boost that makes it appealing but most of the
listeners unknowingly do not realize those core sounds
or cannot feel the instruments that bumps up the core
song.

One such instrument in RD's camp was the Bass and
played by two bassists namely 'Charanjeet Singh' and
'Tony Vazz' (courtesy panchamonline.com). I personally
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NIRAJ SINHA | 1 Dec 2007 15:37
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Re: Walk the Bass with Pancham.

Dear Tamal

Two things are worth mentioning here

1. perhaps the best bass guitaring in Hindi music is the opening note on bass guitar in the song tu tu hai
wahi............actually the song opens on bass guitar only
2. Some of the  songs of Pancham had bass guitaring done by Ramesh Iyer like: aisa sama from Zameen Aasman..

Niraj

Tamal <tamal_dey@...> wrote:          Hello All -

The following analysis may sound boaring to many
members. My sincere apologies for the inconvenience
caused and being less technical in the following
analysis.

Many a times few instruments that play a major role in
the melody of the song or rather pull the song to a
level of popularity do not get noticed amongst the
'masses'. By popularity, I mean the song getting a
boost that makes it appealing but most of the
listeners unknowingly do not realize those core sounds
or cannot feel the instruments that bumps up the core
song.

One such instrument in RD's camp was the Bass and
played by two bassists namely 'Charanjeet Singh' and
'Tony Vazz' (courtesy panchamonline.com). I personally
have great admiration for the later (Tony Vazz)
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sameer parasnis | 1 Dec 2007 22:18
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Re: Re: Walk the Bass with Pancham.

Friends...

Always a pleasure to read mails appreciating Pancham...Tony and Bass!

Before I let the cat out ....Tamal - it was a lovely post indeed...and frankly though I do understand
notations a little bit ....now a days what matters to me more is the listening experience....what I mean
here is sometimes as I play songs on Keyboard or on harmonium....original chords...original
compositions or just impulsive playing...something new comes up suddenly...it may not be intended by
the composer...but technically it fits in and more so one can play it if it sounds good to ears!

Coming back to Tony...Bass and Pancham.....last week I was talking to Manish.( Tony's student and a
leading bass player in recordings/live shows ) ..incidently I have been listening to "Khamosh sa
Afsana...." - boy boy...you have to listen to the use of bass in such a classical based, slow and mellow
composition....I have not yet broken down the songs minute or second wise ...but please please carefully
listen to the transitions / bass chord pattern....it is simply outlandish!...I mentioned this song to
Manish and he had a story to tell...

Most of the times Tony played instinctively...bass guitar - being such a instrument - it also gave him the
opprtunity to enhance..be more creative...with or without Pancham's consent....many a times without
written notations during the music sessions they had....this even Manoharidada mentioned....

My favourite bass played by Tony is Khamosh sa Afsana and Lataji's Tujhse Naaraz Nahi Zindagi....it is
simply beyond any analysis.....I will always regret not meeting Tony in perosn even once and shaking
those magical hands with him!

and by the way the song truly translates feelings for Tony....Tujhse Naaraz Nahi Zindagi.....Lekin
Hairaan Hoon....simply for the craft you possessed!!

And as fate would have it - his life...his craft went un-noticed so long as he lived.....Khamosh Sa Afsana!
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saubhadra chatterji | 2 Dec 2007 04:42
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Re: loRD's DIL TERA HUA

hi aniket

i have dil tera hua with me. ACD. not all songs r by sapna mukherjee. it has jolly mukherjee and amit kumar. the
best part of the album is it was released with 3 songs of parinda. 

regards
saubhadra

----- Original Message ----
From: Tamal <tamal_dey@...>
To: pancham@...
Sent: Monday, 26 November, 2007 3:43:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Pancham] loRD's DIL TERA HUA

Thanks for the link Aniket.

Regards,
Tamal.

--- aniket mehta <aniketpk41 <at> yahoo. co.in> wrote:

> Hi everybody,
> thsi might me my first mail to the group.
> Just before some time while surfing got the videos
> of "AUDIO RELEASE OF "DIL TERA HUA"".The album is
> released in 1994 and all songs are sung by Sapna
> Mukherjee.
> One thing i've noticed is video is about one and
> half minute.But i'm not able to see the loRD for a
> second.(Porbably album might have released after
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Tamal | 2 Dec 2007 04:47
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Is panchammagic organising their regular event in Jan 2008 ?

Hi ..

 Can anyone from panchammagic confirm if you will
organise the pancham event this year on Jan 4th in
Pune ?

 Please also let us know about the ticket availability
in case the show is scheduled.

 Regards,
 Tamal.

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nimesh dand | 2 Dec 2007 06:12
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Rahulji's concert

Does any one in the R D Burmanji's group have a live
concert on a vcd or dvd?
Very eager let me know.

Nimesh.

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rakesh modi | 2 Dec 2007 08:45
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Re: Re: Sholay

Hi ali,
  at the time of making sholay,zanjeer had not released & amit was not a big star compared to dharamji. & even
amit was to die in the end.so the main hero was dharamji, & kis voice has given to him & manna dey to amit.
  regarding sound of kishore , i think though it was india's 1st stereophonic movie,according to the book
"making of sholay", that time songs were recorded here & ramesh sippy had to take to London for
stereophonic.That may be the reason that the playback singer's sound has no 'that lord" effect somewhat
echo-type & its a regular other Md's type.
  --rakesh modi 

Arun Kamat <arukam@...> wrote:
          Forwarding post on behalf of Ajay Wagle as there is some problem 
with his id.

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From: acwagle@...
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Subject: Sholay
Date: Sun, 19 Aug 2007 09:05:09 +0000

Hi Ali,

Kishore's voice does not sound any different to me in this album. 
I've heard a few RD-Kishore songs in which Kishore's voice sounds a 
tad tired, mostly from the 80s, in albums like Ram Tere Kitne Naam,
(possibly) Samundar etc., but not this one.

The songs composed for this film, from what I remember of it, 
arevery situational and, if we bear in mind that this was 
essentially anaction film with not much scope for songs (it can 
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