Dave Brunelle | 1 Mar 04:19 2011
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Fairly long interview

http://burningambulance.com/2011/02/28/interview-bill-laswell/

some nice insights

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wtmdmm@juno.com | 1 Mar 05:18 2011
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Re: Fairly long interview

Interesting.  Does it end at "So that kind of borders on a mutant sort of metal." ??


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Jonathan Smith | 1 Mar 09:53 2011
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Re: Fairly long interview

It does seem to end there. Good interview. 

Its a real shame that Tabla Beat Science with John McLaughlin didn't ever go ahead, I'm sure that would have been special. I still Like Shakti. It might have given Carlos Santana to do something less commercial than he usually does these days too.

Talking of 'metal', Bill mentioned Motorhead in the Innerviews interview with Anil Prasad as well (if you read the book version)

Then you have some bands that are just dumb. Spinal Tap was not an exaggeration by any stretch. Working with Motorhead and the Ramomes  went beyond Spinal Tap. They were interesting experiences but nothing I'd want to repeat.

I eventually managed to scan part of Lemmy's so-called autobiography White Line Fever. It speaks for itself, if anyone is interested:

….We made the record (Orgasmatron) in eleven days, which as you might have guys by now, was no big deal for Motorhead. It was very easy, in fact, ‘cause the guys were so glad to be there. We gave our producer, Bill Laswell, a bit of a fright the first day, however. Me and Paul Hadwen, the fan club secretary at the time had been drinking in this boozer when we saw an advert in the paper for Fat-o-Grams. We immediately thought, this is just the thing for Phil Campbell so we booked one. Then we went in the studio with Bill Laswell and his engineer, Jason Corsaro. They'd just come over from the States and they didn't know us at all – I’d met Bill for half an hour before this and, of course, nothing had been mentioned about Fat-o-Grams and such. So Bill and Jason were being all gung-ho , American – “Let's get it on, boys. It's gonna be great” etcetera.

But there was this large lady standing around the lobby (Phil later said he thought she was somebody's mother), and she came into the studio after us, asking, which one's Phil?' And Phil said, ‘I am!’ She tore off her dress and there she was, this huge t woman in a little, skimpy outfit with the tits cut out, singing “Happy birthday to you !' (I suppose it may not have been his birthday - but we told her it was) And she grabs Phil and stuck his head between her tits - all we could see was just this little tuft of hair sticking out between ‘em! Then she started slapping him with them! Nearly knocked him out. It was fucking 1 great, and Laswell and Cosaro were edging behind the desk, going, “What the fuck is this?” That was their introduction into the world of Motorhead.

As it turned out, Bill was good for getting sounds, but he fucked everything up in the mix. It was a much better album I when he took it to New York the when he brought it back. A bunch of us - our people, Laswell's people - got together for grand first-time playing and our publicist brought a case of champagne to ring in the occasion properly. It was dreadful.

Orgasmatron was mud. There was supposed to be a four-part harmony on ‘Ain't My Crime', but he wiped three of them out! I won't bore you with the rest of the highlights. Suffice it to say that our publicist was edging the crate of champagne back under the desk with her foot, while Laswell's manager was siding by the door, bopping determinedly. It was hopeless. I tried to remix some of the record, but Bill and Jason weren't being particularly 9 helpful because ‘it was our mix and we liked it and that's the way it was and this difficult musician was coming over trying to teach us our own job' - well, I suppose I am difficult, if you consider, if you consider wanting to get the job done right difficult.

I didn't come up with the title Orgasmatron right off the bat. The album's working title was Riding with the Driver (each overhead studio albums, except Bastards, which we made in 1993, is named after one of its songs), but that track didn't turn out as good as we'd hoped. l didn't even know at the time that an 'Orgasmatron' was a contraption in some Woody Men film - I never saw the movie - but I've been told about it quite often since! However, I made up the word on my own lot of our fans consider this album one of our classics, and there are some great songs on it - the title track and “Deaf Forever”, for example.

I always have problems with the way it was mixed, though. As far as I'm concerned it was only half the album it should have oxen. I do want to note, however, that there's a great picture of Lars Ulrich on the original album sleeve. He had come up to see us at the Beverly Sunset a couple of years afore while we were in Los Angeles. and he got a bit ill. He was still a youngster in those days, but it's a fallacy to say I taught him how to drink. I actually taught (him to throw up, and that's what he did, all over himself - that's what he got for trying to keep up with older people's habits! A photo of that classic moment in rock history appears on Orgasmatron....

Lemmy seems to be being ungrateful here as many fans seem to love the album and he had managed to lose his entire band and many of his fans very recently beforehand. When Motorhead tried to produce their own album, Iron Fist, they they ruined their own reputation. This album regained it for them to some extent. The mix is odd but there could have been many reasons for that, not the least being that Lemmy, who seems to have no skills at mixing, tried to remix it. I'd like to hear Bill's original mix because it sounds like Lemmy ruined what could have been their most interesting sounding album. To me there is a problem with the songs that Lemmy won't admit. The only outstanding song is the title track, which sounds like Bill's work, as it totally different from anything else Motorhead have done-- it's one their most covered songs too. It also appeared on Myth Dreams of the World as "Mars, The God of War" in a different version.

Motorhead haven't done anything original for many years now-- they endlessly repeat the same songs over and over again with new titles.


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Interesting.  Does it end at "So that kind of borders on a mutant sort of metal." ??

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Stephen Fruitman | 1 Mar 10:50 2011
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Re: Fairly long interview

This appended music video was who and what, exactly? Gawd, it´s awful music. :-)

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Jonathan Smith | 1 Mar 11:03 2011
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It was supposed to a joke, but a bit obscure. As you asked its Yat Cha, actually a very famous Mongolian throat singing group, covering "Orgastmatron." 

I wouldn't call Yat Cha awful-- Motherhead, yes maybe! ;)


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This appended music video was who and what, exactly? Gawd, it´s awful music. :-)




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Stephen Fruitman | 1 Mar 12:08 2011
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> It was supposed to a joke, but a bit obscure.

"Oh, jokes. I get jokes!" (Homer Simpson) :-)


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Richard Squibbs | 1 Mar 16:21 2011
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As a huge Las fan (obviously), and a huge Motorhead fan, I couldn't disagree more with your assessment. Orgasmatron is a great album that's marred by a terrible mix (and Lemmy's attempts to remix were just that -- attempts that weren't used, so what you hear is all Las). The BBC Session version of the Orgasmatron tracks sound fantastic, and exactly as they should, so the problem's not with the songs, which are very good. And as someone who actually follows Motorhead (I just saw them last week, in fact), I know they've released much better albums than Orgasmatron in the years since.

Just because Lemmy dissed Las doesn't make him wrong. Actually, I can't think of a single hard rock album Las has produced (by bands that he didn't put together himself) that sounds good. There's always too much sound separation and everything sounds dead. He's really out of his element in those situations. Even the mighty Las is fallible!  

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Lemmy seems to be being ungrateful here as many fans seem to love the album and he had managed to lose his entire band and many of his fans very recently beforehand. When Motorhead tried to produce their own album, Iron Fist, they they ruined their own reputation. This album regained it for them to some extent. The mix is odd but there could have been many reasons for that, not the least being that Lemmy, who seems to have no skills at mixing, tried to remix it. I'd like to hear Bill's original mix because it sounds like Lemmy ruined what could have been their most interesting sounding album. To me there is a problem with the songs that Lemmy won't admit. The only outstanding song is the title track, which sounds like Bill's work, as it totally diffe rent from anything else Motorhead have done-- it's one their most covered songs too. It also appeared on Myth Dreams of the World as "Mars, The God of War" in a different version.

Motorhead haven't done anything original for many years now-- they endlessly repeat the same songs over and over again with new titles.


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Interesting.  Does it end at "So that kind of borders on a mutant sort of metal." ??

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Anil Prasad | 1 Mar 20:19 2011

Artwork for new P-Vine Albums

In case you're curious:





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Stephen Fruitman | 1 Mar 23:01 2011
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Re: Artwork for new P-Vine Albums

Doe anyone know of any sound samples available on the Net?

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dave.brunelle | 1 Mar 23:21 2011
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Re: Artwork for new P-Vine Albums

If there aren't any up I will try and post some tonight.

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Doe anyone know of any sound samples available on the Net?



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