Rick (greenfox | 1 Mar 01:08 2010
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Re: Auckland's new organ #3

Thanks Matt

I have had a look at your site.  It is very well done.  It is good to 
see your journey with this.  I congratulate your drive and progress to 
date.  I am always happy to help in any way I can.

We are all at different stages in these projects and have different 
priorities at different times.  You have travelled an enormous distance 
in a relatively short period of time.  I have no doubt you will achieve 
your stated goals and go on to do more as new things come to your awareness.

Kind regards
Rick Whatson

Matt Pestle wrote:
> Here's some promised docs on another virtual organ project, beginning 
> with a discarded pipe organ console that gets "MIDIfied" and connected 
> to jOrgan:
>
>     http://www.afinosystems.com/organ/
>
> Happy to provide more detail if anyone's interested - Although I suspect 
> this is all old hat to most of you. Any suggestions for better ways to 
> do this are welcome ... this is my first attempt and I've had some 
> massive learning curves in lots of areas. There will be more attempts.
>
> As noted there's still heaps to learn about jOrgan on my part in order 
> to finish configuring this instrument the way I want it, but I think 
> we've broken the back of the hard problems (apart from getting the SAMs 
> control functioning).
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Rick (greenfox | 1 Mar 01:42 2010
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Re: Which soundblaster

"Vienna" is the "Creative" software that allows you to view and/or edit 
a soundfont (it won't load a soundfont into a card).  It is bundled with 
Creative soundcard software.  You must have a "Creative" brand soundcard 
installed and running for this ("Vienna") to work. 

("Viena" [one "n"] is a free software package that performs the same 
function without the need for "Creative" hardware being loaded.)

The "soundfont loader" is another item of software that is bundled with 
"Creative" brand audio hardware.  There is a whole group of applications 
that come on the installation CD for "Creative" audio hardware.  It is 
hard to know how much of it you really need until you find there is 
something you can't do.  I very much dislike all the extra stuff they 
try to get you to load.

Regards
Rick

Sven Meier wrote:
> Hi Roy,
>
>  >I have Vienna around somewhere, would that do?
>
> I don't think so.
>
> The SB Live driver features the Soundfont manager (startable from the 
> Windows tray), don't you have this?
>
> Regards
>
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Paul C. Stratman | 1 Mar 04:31 2010
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Re: beta8

An observation regarding keyers:

Along with no longer activating the stop, Keyers seem to have different behavior regarding duration. It seems to play the length of the attack and release. If the stop/piston sound is very short and you have very little release time specified in the soundfont parameters for the sample, it may be too short. I lengthened some releases in my soundfont to make some sounds more audible.

How does it work for piston thump and other action noises?

The working of action noises is nearly flawless. Combination/pistons work great. Stop on/off sounds repeat if you have a lot of stops virtually "moving" at the same time, like when activated by a combination. Kind of a "Th-th-th-th-th-th-thump." Not a problem on a small organ. Sounds a bit strange on a large one. For the ACO 3P-104 I made the stop for "Stop Sounds" visible so they can be turned off if desired and "Piston Thump" left on. (Had an idea to have the synchronizer deactivate an inverse coupler for the stop noises when activated so you would only hear the piston thump, but it didn't work.)

Other problems or challenges:

Organs that use a pitch bend transposer will have problems. (For example, on the Arlesheim organ some stops will come on at A=440. Others will come on at A=411, even when the switch filter is on.) I think it has something to do with the Fluidsynth 1.1.1 workaround being removed. 

Other cool stuff:

I also made a "UNIFY GT & PD COMBINATIONS" set with an activator and five Synchronizers. Cool!

There are other things the Synchronizer can do, such as play the Jeux 1.4 Zimbelstern and then switch to the slow down voices when the keyer/activator is released. I think the Synchronizer will be a wonderful addition.

I'm not disappointed if 3.9 uses the older Fluidsynth. (That is, we'll lose the Temperament facility for a while.) Part of the challenge here was trying to get two things to work at the same time. I'd like to see the Synchronizer more than new FS. With all the experimentation, I'm ready for a bugless new version of Fluidsynth when it comes! 

Paul

From: Sven Meier <sven <at> meiers.net>
To: jorgan-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net
Sent: Sun, February 28, 2010 11:10:45 AM
Subject: [jOrgan-user] beta8

Hi all,

another beta (the eighth) is available:

    http://sourceforge.net/projects/jorgan/files/jorgan-installer/3.9/

Not many new things the report:
- a few optimizations and fixes,
- a short demonstration of the new Synchronizer in example.disposition,
- a fluidsynth 1.1.1 workaround removed which slowed down jOrgan.

I'm not sure about the implications of the last point. Let's see whether
anybody has anything to complain.

Then we have to decide what to do next:
Should we still wait for the fluidsynth issues to be fixed? I'm quite
satisfied with the new Synchronizer element, this feature alone would
justify a new release.

Regards

Sven

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Erik De Schrijver | 1 Mar 14:07 2010
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Re: beta8

Hello Bernd and Sven,

This is my personal preference too.
Thank you both for the outstanding contributions and support.

Best regards,
Erik.
--------------------------------
Bernd Casper wrote:
Hi Sven,
 
A new jOrgan release should not depend on a buggy FluidSynth.
 
But: Personally I think, we have no old FS extension compilation working with jOrgan 3.9.  If you'd compile it for working with 3.9, sparing tunings functionality for later FS releases, all organ models could be released with 3.9 already. For the time being, I'd prefer releasing organs with 3.9 and the old FS extension, waiting for a non-buggy FS release to include tunings then.
 
Thank you again for the great work.
Regards
Bernd.

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Hi all,

another beta (the eighth) is available:

    http://sourceforge.net/projects/jorgan/files/jorgan-installer/3.9/

Not many new things the report:
- a few optimizations and fixes,
- a short demonstration of the new Synchronizer in example.disposition,
- a fluidsynth 1.1.1 workaround removed which slowed down jOrgan.

I'm not sure about the implications of the last point. Let's see whether
anybody has anything to complain.

Then we have to decide what to do next:
Should we still wait for the fluidsynth issues to be fixed? I'm quite
satisfied with the new Synchronizer element, this feature alone would
justify a new release.

Regards

Sven

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Roy Radford | 1 Mar 23:43 2010
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Re: Which soundblaster (X-Fi problem.)

Hi again, Sven,

                      Well, much water has passed under bridges since my last reply, but the bottom line is both jOrgan V3.7 and 3.8.3 Creative extensions are OK with the X-Fi Xtreme soundcard. Sadly though the unexpected latency screws my whole purpose in using it!

    Having swapped the cards over (One was a completely wrong card any way, I fear I may have accidentally given the scrap man a disabled computer containing the other X-Fi card! ) jOrgan didn't crash any more, and happily loaded the soundfont, but still didn't recognise the X-Fi as a MIDI output. This was not "A jOrgan thing", Windows Control Panel couldn't see it either. The X-Fi was recognised as an audio I/O device, but not as a MIDI output.

   After several attempts at re-installing the driver crashed out, I wiped the whole machine and restored the OS. Everything then installed and ran on both jOrgan V3.7 and 3.8.3, but the latency was poor, worse than Fluidsynth.

    Just to cover the possibility that the low-powered computer was the cause, (Didn't seem likely if the hardware synth was doing all the hard work), I installed the whole shebang on a quad core machine with 4GB RAM running a clean install of XP Pro. As I expected, it was no better.

   So far as I'm concerned the whole saga has been a highly interesting complete waste of time!       (Apart from any value it might have to the group by confirming that jOrgan's V3.7 and 3.8.3 Creative extensions work OK in this particular setup.)

    I'm using jOrgan to drive an Edirol SD-20, which has virtually zero latency. For all its excellent sounds (660 of 'em!) it doesn't have any decent theatre organ sounds, so I thought I would add another sound group running soundfonts. Fine, but to make it sound like the organ is playing under the same conductor as the rest of the orchestra, the synth has to be FAST!..

    ...Yes, I know, I COULD use yet another of jOrgan's many virtues to delay the Edirol to match the X-Fi, but that's just about the last thing I want to do. I want this contraption as an alternative to the Technics EA5, which is no longer maintainable if it busts, so "electronic-style" zero latency is the order of the day. That, and the Roland sounds, was the whole point of buying the Edirol unit!

   So far the best option seems to be Fluidsynth running under Puppy Linux with a modest-sized soundfont cut down to a few basic organ tones. Bruce Miles' corg_w110 looks promising, could be just the job to blend in with the Edirol orchestral sounds.


      Have fun,

          Roy.

  

    

   

--- On Sun, 28/2/10, Sven Meier <sven <at> meiers.net> wrote:

From: Sven Meier <sven <at> meiers.net>
Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] Which soundblaster
To: jorgan-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net
Date: Sunday, 28 February, 2010, 19:13

Hi Roy,

>I have Vienna around somewhere, would that do?

I don't think so.

The SB Live driver features the Soundfont manager (startable from the
Windows tray), don't you have this?

Regards

Sven

Roy Radford wrote:
> Hi, Sven,
>
>              OK, I'll try both.
>
>   I'm not quite sure how to load a soundfont outside jOrgan or if
> using a Generic sound, that's one reason I opted for the Creative
> extension. I don't know whether the driver has a graphical interface.
>
>    I have Vienna around somewhere, would that do?
>
>        Have fun,
>
>            Roy.
>
> --- On *Sun, 28/2/10, Sven Meier /<sven <at> meiers.net>/* wrote:
>
>
>     From: Sven Meier <sven <at> meiers.net>
>     Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] Which soundblaster
>     To: jorgan-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net
>     Date: Sunday, 28 February, 2010, 18:47
>
>     It would be interesting to see whether there are differences
>     between 3.7
>     and 3.8.3.
>
>     Around 3.8 I rewrote the creative extension to support Linux too,
>     perhaps we have a regression here?
>
>     Sven
>
>     Roy Radford wrote:
>     > Hi, Sven,
>     >
>     >              Thanks for your reply. Should I do the tests with
>     jOrgan
>     > 3.7 or 3.8.3, or doesn't it matter?
>     >
>     >       Have fun,
>     >
>     >          Roy.
>     >
>     >
>     > --- On *Sun, 28/2/10, Sven Meier /<sven <at> meiers.net
>     </mc/compose?to=sven <at> meiers.net>>/* wrote:
>     >
>     >
>     >     From: Sven Meier <sven <at> meiers.net
>     </mc/compose?to=sven <at> meiers.net>>
>     >     Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] Which soundblaster
>     >     To: jorgan-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net
>     </mc/compose?to=jorgan-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net>
>     >     Date: Sunday, 28 February, 2010, 18:08
>     >
>     >     Hi Roy,
>     >
>     >     it seems jOrgan's native code isn't able to access your X-Fi
>     card.
>     >     Does
>     >     loading Soundfonts work outside of jOrgan?
>     >
>     >     Please use a GenericSound element first and see whether Midi
>     >     basics work
>     >     correctly.
>     >
>     >     Regards
>     >
>     >     Sven
>     >
>     >     Roy Radford wrote:
>     >     > Hi, John,
>     >     >
>     >     >              I'd like to join in this thread but, sadly,
>     with more
>     >     > questions than answers! I've just installed an X-Fi card
>     in an old
>     >     > computer and loaded jOrgan V3.8.3 which I believe Sven
>     gives as the
>     >     > last stable version.
>     >     >
>     >     >     As soon as I call up the X-Fi as the destination for a
>     Creative
>     >     > sound,  jOrgan quits!.. No visible message , it just bombs out
>     >     back to
>     >     > the desktop.
>     >     >
>     >     >     I tried again with jOrgan V3.7 after uninstalling. It
>     >     allowed me
>     >     > to set the X-Fi as the output of a Creative sound, but quit as
>     >     soon as
>     >     > I tried to load a soundfont... Nothing massive enough to bust
>     >     > anything, I used Bruce Miles' corg_w110 at 5,490KB for
>     just that
>     >     reason.
>     >     >
>     >     >      Time permitting I'm going to repeat on a brand new
>     computer
>     >     with
>     >     > a clean install of XP Pro, but as the topic came up I
>     thought I
>     >     might
>     >     > as well check whether anyone already knows the answer to
>     this one???
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >        Have fun,
>     >     >
>     >     >            Roy.
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     > --- On *Sun, 28/2/10, John Beach
>     /<jbeach2646 <at> fairpoint.net </mc/compose?to=jbeach2646 <at> fairpoint.net>
>     >     </mc/compose?to=jbeach2646 <at> fairpoint.net
>     </mc/compose?to=jbeach2646 <at> fairpoint.net>>>/* wrote:
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >     From: John Beach <jbeach2646 <at> fairpoint.net
>     </mc/compose?to=jbeach2646 <at> fairpoint.net>
>     >     </mc/compose?to=jbeach2646 <at> fairpoint.net
>     </mc/compose?to=jbeach2646 <at> fairpoint.net>>>
>     >     >     Subject: Re: [jOrgan-user] Which soundblaster
>     >     >     To: jorgan-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net
>     </mc/compose?to=jorgan-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net>
>     >     </mc/compose?to=jorgan-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net
>     </mc/compose?to=jorgan-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net>>
>     >     >     Date: Sunday, 28 February, 2010, 12:49
>     >     >
>     >     >     " Can someone give me some  suggestions which
>     soundblaster is a
>     >     >     good choice
>     >     >     for this. I'm running XP
>     >     >     professional, 2Gig RAM?"
>     >     >
>     >     >     BR, Dries
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >     If you have no budget constraints, the X-Fi Titanium Pro
>     >     >     ($99-$149) offers
>     >     >     the greatest realism in sound (re)production of any of the
>     >     >     Creative Labs
>     >     >     Soundcards that I have had over the past 12
>     >     years.   Whatever you
>     >     >     decide on,
>     >     >     make sure you get a soundcard that is
>     soundfont-compatible,
>     >     otherwise
>     >     >     you will be limited to the Fluidsynth extension of
>     jOrgan for
>     >     >     sound output.
>     >     >     There are usually lots of used cards available on eBay and
>     >     >     Creative Labs may
>     >     >     also
>     >     >     have refurbished cards for sale on eBay.  They come with a
>     >     30-day
>     >     >     replacement warranty.   I purchased an Xtreme Music (X-Fi)
>     >     on eBay
>     >     >     and got a
>     >     >     good deal ($44).  It works well.    You can check the
>     >     Soundblaster
>     >     >     (SB)
>     >     >     soundcard model numbers (eg., SBXXXX, SB0350,  SB0460,
>     etc. ) to
>     >     >     be sure
>     >     >     that they are soundfont-compatible.
>     >     >     Creative Labs series cards, such as SB Live! 5.1
>     (Emu1K) and
>     >     >     Audigy 2ZS
>     >     >     (Emu2K), issued  before the X-Fi series can use the KX
>     Project
>     >     >     drivers which
>     >     >     some find to be superior to the Creative Labs drivers
>     in overall
>     >     >     sound
>     >     >     quality output.   The KX Project drivers are
>     standalone and need
>     >     >     no Creative
>     >     >     Labs software applications to
>     >     >     access nearly all hardware features of the soundcard.
>     >     >     The X-Fi series is not compatible with any KX Project
>     drivers.
>     >     >     Hope this information is useful in making your choice.
>     >     >     John Beach
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >
>     >     >
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Rick (greenfox | 2 Mar 00:38 2010
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Re: beta8

If fluidsynth were to revert, would we be able to apply the patches that 
were released for V3.8 to still use the new fluidsynth?

Thanks
Regards
Rick

Bernd Casper wrote:
> Hi Sven,
> so far I could test it the Synchronizer works as expected. Many thanks 
> for this great improvement.
>  
> A new jOrgan release should not depend on a buggy FluidSynth.
>  
> But: Personally I think, we have no old FS extension compilation 
> working with jOrgan 3.9.  If you'd compile it for working with 3.9, 
> sparing tunings functionality for later FS releases, all organ models 
> could be released with 3.9 already. For the time being, I'd prefer 
> releasing organs with 3.9 and the old FS extension, waiting for a 
> non-buggy FS release to include tunings then.
>  
> Thank you again for the great work.
> Regards
> Bernd.
>
>
>     ----- Folgende Nachricht wurde empfangen -----
>
>     *Absender:* Sven Meier <mailto:sven <at> meiers.net>
>     *Empfänger:* jorgan-user <mailto:jorgan-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net>
>     *Zeit:* 2010-02-28, 18:10:45
>     *Betreff:* [jOrgan-user] beta8
>     Hi all,
>
>     another beta (the eighth) is available:
>
>         http://sourceforge.net/projects/jorgan/files/jorgan-installer/3.9/
>
>     Not many new things the report:
>     - a few optimizations and fixes,
>     - a short demonstration of the new Synchronizer in
>     example.disposition,
>     - a fluidsynth 1.1.1 workaround removed which slowed down jOrgan.
>
>     I'm not sure about the implications of the last point. Let's see
>     whether
>     anybody has anything to complain.
>
>     Then we have to decide what to do next:
>     Should we still wait for the fluidsynth issues to be fixed? I'm quite
>     satisfied with the new Synchronizer element, this feature alone would
>     justify a new release.
>
>     Regards
>
>     Sven
>
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Bill Skees | 2 Mar 03:20 2010

Beginners Manual, Rev. 34

Hi All,

Current revisions:

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Sven Meier | 2 Mar 21:26 2010
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Re: beta8

Hi Rick,

I think we will ship jOrgan 3.9 with the old Fluidsynth 1.0.9 version.
Those who want to use the latest fluidsynth features (tuning) will be 
able to install a separate beta version of the fluidsynth extension 
including Fluidsynth 1.1.1.

Regards

Sven

Rick (greenfox) wrote:
> If fluidsynth were to revert, would we be able to apply the patches that 
> were released for V3.8 to still use the new fluidsynth?
>
> Thanks
> Regards
> Rick
>
> Bernd Casper wrote:
>   
>> Hi Sven,
>> so far I could test it the Synchronizer works as expected. Many thanks 
>> for this great improvement.
>>  
>> A new jOrgan release should not depend on a buggy FluidSynth.
>>  
>> But: Personally I think, we have no old FS extension compilation 
>> working with jOrgan 3.9.  If you'd compile it for working with 3.9, 
>> sparing tunings functionality for later FS releases, all organ models 
>> could be released with 3.9 already. For the time being, I'd prefer 
>> releasing organs with 3.9 and the old FS extension, waiting for a 
>> non-buggy FS release to include tunings then.
>>  
>> Thank you again for the great work.
>> Regards
>> Bernd.
>>
>>
>>     ----- Folgende Nachricht wurde empfangen -----
>>
>>     *Absender:* Sven Meier <mailto:sven <at> meiers.net>
>>     *Empfänger:* jorgan-user <mailto:jorgan-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net>
>>     *Zeit:* 2010-02-28, 18:10:45
>>     *Betreff:* [jOrgan-user] beta8
>>     Hi all,
>>
>>     another beta (the eighth) is available:
>>
>>         http://sourceforge.net/projects/jorgan/files/jorgan-installer/3.9/
>>
>>     Not many new things the report:
>>     - a few optimizations and fixes,
>>     - a short demonstration of the new Synchronizer in
>>     example.disposition,
>>     - a fluidsynth 1.1.1 workaround removed which slowed down jOrgan.
>>
>>     I'm not sure about the implications of the last point. Let's see
>>     whether
>>     anybody has anything to complain.
>>
>>     Then we have to decide what to do next:
>>     Should we still wait for the fluidsynth issues to be fixed? I'm quite
>>     satisfied with the new Synchronizer element, this feature alone would
>>     justify a new release.
>>
>>     Regards
>>
>>     Sven
>>
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Rick (greenfox | 3 Mar 00:03 2010
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Re: beta8

Thank you Sven

I am happy to be able to install a separate beta extension.  It is not 
the tuning I am interested in, it is the dual core processor handling 
that we gained with Fluidsynth 1.1.1.

Regards
Rick

Sven Meier wrote:
> Hi Rick,
>
> I think we will ship jOrgan 3.9 with the old Fluidsynth 1.0.9 version.
> Those who want to use the latest fluidsynth features (tuning) will be 
> able to install a separate beta version of the fluidsynth extension 
> including Fluidsynth 1.1.1.
>
> Regards
>
> Sven
>
> Rick (greenfox) wrote:
>   
>> If fluidsynth were to revert, would we be able to apply the patches that 
>> were released for V3.8 to still use the new fluidsynth?
>>
>> Thanks
>> Regards
>> Rick
>>
>> Bernd Casper wrote:
>>   
>>     
>>> Hi Sven,
>>> so far I could test it the Synchronizer works as expected. Many thanks 
>>> for this great improvement.
>>>  
>>> A new jOrgan release should not depend on a buggy FluidSynth.
>>>  
>>> But: Personally I think, we have no old FS extension compilation 
>>> working with jOrgan 3.9.  If you'd compile it for working with 3.9, 
>>> sparing tunings functionality for later FS releases, all organ models 
>>> could be released with 3.9 already. For the time being, I'd prefer 
>>> releasing organs with 3.9 and the old FS extension, waiting for a 
>>> non-buggy FS release to include tunings then.
>>>  
>>> Thank you again for the great work.
>>> Regards
>>> Bernd.
>>>
>>>
>>>     ----- Folgende Nachricht wurde empfangen -----
>>>
>>>     *Absender:* Sven Meier <mailto:sven <at> meiers.net>
>>>     *Empfänger:* jorgan-user <mailto:jorgan-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net>
>>>     *Zeit:* 2010-02-28, 18:10:45
>>>     *Betreff:* [jOrgan-user] beta8
>>>     Hi all,
>>>
>>>     another beta (the eighth) is available:
>>>
>>>         http://sourceforge.net/projects/jorgan/files/jorgan-installer/3.9/
>>>
>>>     Not many new things the report:
>>>     - a few optimizations and fixes,
>>>     - a short demonstration of the new Synchronizer in
>>>     example.disposition,
>>>     - a fluidsynth 1.1.1 workaround removed which slowed down jOrgan.
>>>
>>>     I'm not sure about the implications of the last point. Let's see
>>>     whether
>>>     anybody has anything to complain.
>>>
>>>     Then we have to decide what to do next:
>>>     Should we still wait for the fluidsynth issues to be fixed? I'm quite
>>>     satisfied with the new Synchronizer element, this feature alone would
>>>     justify a new release.
>>>
>>>     Regards
>>>
>>>     Sven
>>>
>>>     ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Rick (greenfox | 3 Mar 10:56 2010
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Re: beta8

Hello Bernd

FluidSynth from 1.1.X have included Multi-core support according to the 
improvements list from the FluidSynth web site.  (see web address and 
copied detail below)

If you watch "Task Manager" "Performance" with earlier FluidSynth you 
will see it only ever uses one core of a multi-core processor.  If you 
do the same test with the new FluidSynth patch or V3.9betaX I have seen 
that FluidSynth spreads its processing load across both of my 
processors.  There is nothing you have to do to achieve this.  I believe 
the improvement is subtle but useful, particularly in maintaining audio 
depth and clarity on very large registrations with a lot of couplers and 
many notes being played.

http://fluidsynth.resonance.org/trac/wiki/ChangeLog1_1_0   

FluidSynth 1.1.0 - "A More Solid Fluid" ¶

Changes from previous version 1.0.9
Features and improvements ¶

    * Extensive work on making FluidSynth more thread safe, resulting in 
better stability.
    * Audio file rendering for MIDI to audio file conversion, faster 
than realtime (#15).
    * Optional libsndfile support for file rendering in different audio 
file formats (wav, flac, ogg vorbis, etc) (#30).
    * Audio and MIDI are synchronized for MIDI file playback.
    * Server can be specified for Jack audio and MIDI drivers.
    * Jack audio and MIDI is now synchronized (when same Jack server used).
    * MIDI file playback is now timed correctly, even with large audio 
buffer sizes.
    * Fixed issue with missing percussion in MIDI files caused by very 
short notes, using synth.min-note-length setting (#1).
    * Improved support for MIDI tuning standard, including SYSEX support 
and realtime tuning activation.
    * Multi-core support for utilizing multiple CPUs for synthesis or 
increasing speed of file rendering.
    * Voices for a note-on event are started synchronously (#46).
    * TCP/IP shell server support for windows (#20).
    * Improved settings output (-o help) (alphabetically sorted and 
string options listed).
    * Audio driver (-a) and MIDI driver (-m) options now accept "help" 
and list available options (#41).
    * Added audio.realtime-prio and midi.realtime-prio for controlling 
realtime scheduling of some audio and MIDI drivers.
    * Default priority levels of audio and MIDI threads set to 60 and 50 
respectively.
    * All yes/no string boolean settings converted to integer toggle 
settings (with backwards compatibility).
    * glib is now a required dependency.
    * Updated README-OSX
    * Added "voice_count" shell command for getting current number of 
active voices.

Regards
Rick

Bernd Casper wrote:
> Hi Rick,
> this is something I must have missed - can you explain, please, how 
> you do handle DualCore support with FS 1.1.1?
> Many Thanks
> Bernd.
>
>
>     ----- Folgende Nachricht wurde empfangen -----
>
>     *Absender:* Rick (greenfox) <mailto:greenfox4075 <at> gmail.com>
>     *Empfänger:* jorgan-user <mailto:jorgan-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net>
>     *Zeit:* 2010-03-03, 00:03:00
>     *Betreff:* Re: [jOrgan-user] beta8
>     Thank you Sven
>
>     I am happy to be able to install a separate beta extension. It is not
>     the tuning I am interested in, it is the dual core processor handling
>     that we gained with Fluidsynth 1.1.1.
>
>     Regards
>     Rick
>
>     Sven Meier wrote:
>     > Hi Rick,
>     >
>     > I think we will ship jOrgan 3.9 with the old Fluidsynth 1.0.9
>     version.
>     > Those who want to use the latest fluidsynth features (tuning)
>     will be
>     > able to install a separate beta version of the fluidsynth extension
>     > including Fluidsynth 1.1.1.
>     >
>     > Regards
>     >
>     > Sven
>     >
>     > Rick (greenfox) wrote:
>     >
>     >> If fluidsynth were to revert, would we be able to apply the
>     patches that
>     >> were released for V3.8 to still use the new fluidsynth?
>     >>
>     >> Thanks
>     >> Regards
>     >> Rick
>     >>
>     >> Bernd Casper wrote:
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>> Hi Sven,
>     >>> so far I could test it the Synchronizer works as expected.
>     Many thanks
>     >>> for this great improvement.
>     >>>
>     >>> A new jOrgan release should not depend on a buggy FluidSynth.
>     >>>
>     >>> But: Personally I think, we have no old FS extension compilation
>     >>> working with jOrgan 3.9. If you'd compile it for working with
>     3.9,
>     >>> sparing tunings functionality for later FS releases, all organ
>     models
>     >>> could be released with 3.9 already. For the time being, I'd
>     prefer
>     >>> releasing organs with 3.9 and the old FS extension, waiting for a
>     >>> non-buggy FS release to include tunings then.
>     >>>
>     >>> Thank you again for the great work.
>     >>> Regards
>     >>> Bernd.
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> ----- Folgende Nachricht wurde empfangen -----
>     >>>
>     >>> *Absender:* Sven Meier <mailto:sven <at> meiers.net
>     <mailto:%20sven <at> meiers.net>>
>     >>> *Empfänger:* jorgan-user
>     <mailto:jorgan-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net
>     <mailto:%20jorgan-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net>>
>     >>> *Zeit:* 2010-02-28, 18:10:45
>     >>> *Betreff:* [jOrgan-user] beta8
>     >>> Hi all,
>     >>>
>     >>> another beta (the eighth) is available:
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     http://sourceforge.net/projects/jorgan/files/jorgan-installer/3..9/
>     >>>
>     >>> Not many new things the report:
>     >>> - a few optimizations and fixes,
>     >>> - a short demonstration of the new Synchronizer in
>     >>> example.disposition,
>     >>> - a fluidsynth 1.1.1 workaround removed which slowed down jOrgan.
>     >>>
>     >>> I'm not sure about the implications of the last point. Let's see
>     >>> whether
>     >>> anybody has anything to complain.
>     >>>
>     >>> Then we have to decide what to do next:
>     >>> Should we still wait for the fluidsynth issues to be fixed?
>     I'm quite
>     >>> satisfied with the new Synchronizer element, this feature
>     alone would
>     >>> justify a new release.
>     >>>
>     >>> Regards
>     >>>
>     >>> Sven
>     >>>
>     >>>
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