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orange-clouds@sbcglobal.net | 1 Jan 2009 03:46
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Re: tick on Grace?

there you have it. a good tick. happy new year my lovely sibs. much love and goodness for 2009.

Tracy

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From: Steven Kretzmann <yostevik <at> yahoo.com>
Subject: tick on Grace?
To: "Siblings" <siblings <at> smoe.org>
Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 3:06 PM

Dearest Siblings,

I decided to ask Issa about the apparent electronic tick on the track
"Grace," which was previously mentioned on this list (see below). 

After a few back and forth emails about specifics, she's replied, "it
is my fingers hitting and muting the strings as i play guitar. real."

Happy New Year, everyone!

Stevik

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To: "Nicola Thornhill" <nicolathornhill <at> shaw.ca>, "David
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Nicola Thornhill | 1 Jan 2009 05:33
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Re: tick on Grace?

Yes,

- I second Tracy.

Happy New year dear beautiful siblings! :-)

Gentle Rain
a.k.a. Nicola

"We don't see things as they are, we see things as we are." - Anais Nin
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To: <yostevik <at> yahoo.com>; "siblings" <siblings <at> smoe.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 7:46 PM
Subject: Re: tick on Grace?

> there you have it. a good tick. happy new year my lovely sibs. much love 
> and goodness for 2009.
>
> Tracy
>
> --- On Wed, 12/31/08, Steven Kretzmann <yostevik <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> From: Steven Kretzmann <yostevik <at> yahoo.com>
> Subject: tick on Grace?
> To: "Siblings" <siblings <at> smoe.org>
> Date: Wednesday, December 31, 2008, 3:06 PM
>
> Dearest Siblings,
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orange-clouds@sbcglobal.net | 14 Jan 2009 17:11
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"issa" quoted in zen 365 page a day calendar

hey sibs, is this OUR Issa????????  or is "issa" a sage or chinese wise person
or something. does anybody know about the choosing of "issa" for jane? what IS
up with that? i forgot to pay attention, and please forgive me not doing so.

 
From the end of the nose
  Of the Buddha on the moor
    Hang icicles.
issa

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(8.4 8.4.Tracy
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Gina Luzzi | 14 Jan 2009 18:01
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Re: "issa" quoted in zen 365 page a day calendar

wikipedia lists many issas, including the former jane siberry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issa

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From: orange-clouds <at> sbcglobal.net <orange-clouds <at> sbcglobal.net>
Subject: "issa" quoted in zen 365 page a day calendar
To: "siblings" <siblings <at> smoe.org>
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 8:11 AM

hey sibs, is this OUR Issa????????  or is "issa" a sage or chinese
wise person
or something. does anybody know about the choosing of "issa" for
jane? what IS
up with that? i forgot to pay attention, and please forgive me not doing so.

 
From the end of the nose
  Of the Buddha on the moor
    Hang icicles.
issa

*4(()
 .4 .*4() 8.*()
(8.4 8.4.Tracy
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orange-clouds@sbcglobal.net | 14 Jan 2009 20:02
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Re: "issa" quoted in zen 365 page a day calendar

wow! how cool is that??? that is too cool!!!
Tracy

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From: David Rieken <drieken <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: "issa" quoted in zen 365 page a day calendar
To: "Jeff Johannes" <johannes <at> geneseo.edu>
Cc: "Gina Luzzi" <g_luzzi <at> yahoo.com>, "siblings" <siblings <at> smoe.org>,
orange-clouds <at> sbcglobal.net
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 12:48 PM

It could also be Jesus.

http://reluctant-messenger.com/issa.htm

David

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Jeff Johannes <johannes <at> geneseo.edu> wrote:

This must be the one:

http://www.haikuguy.com/issa/

On Wed, 14 Jan 2009, Gina Luzzi wrote:

> wikipedia lists many issas, including the former jane siberry:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Issa
>
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orange-clouds@sbcglobal.net | 14 Jan 2009 20:07
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Re: "issa" quoted in zen 365 page a day calendar

i did find that the quote in my calendar was from the haiku guy "Issa" but i
am so curious about this last link you sent. i had never heard of Jesus being
St. Issa - i'd heard several rumblings of the "lost years" or his growing up
years,  this is very very interesting to me. thanks so much for your wonderful
research! you rock!

Tracy

--- On Wed, 1/14/09, David Rieken <drieken <at> gmail.com> wrote:

From: David Rieken <drieken <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: "issa" quoted in zen 365 page a day calendar
To: "Jeff Johannes" <johannes <at> geneseo.edu>
Cc: "Gina Luzzi" <g_luzzi <at> yahoo.com>, "siblings" <siblings <at> smoe.org>,
orange-clouds <at> sbcglobal.net
Date: Wednesday, January 14, 2009, 12:48 PM

It could also be Jesus.

http://reluctant-messenger.com/issa.htm

David

On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 9:19 AM, Jeff Johannes <johannes <at> geneseo.edu>
wrote:

> This must be the one:
>
> http://www.haikuguy.com/issa/
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Marypt51 | 15 Jan 2009 16:57
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Re: "issa" quoted in zen 365 page a day calendar

I don't begrudge Jane's desire to change her name to anything she wants any 
time, but if the idea for Issa as a name came from the Islamic name for Jesus 
(Isa or Issa) or from the Issa/Jesus whose travels in India 19th century 
journalist Nicolas Notovitch purported to have found described at length in a 
document in an Indian lamasery, I would have considered that a bizarre choice, 
especially given it accompanied the timing of her decision to abandon all 
possessions. 

The decision to get rid of possessions is something I think is highly 
commendable and difficult to do. But if one were naming oneself Issa to assume the 
identify of or to use as a stage name the name of the ancient prophet who told 
people to abandon their possessions, that would probably not be my idea of good 
taste. (It is her life, not mine, however, so my reaction would be 
irrelevant.)

Fortunately, Issa has provided on her website an article in which she 
explained the name was chosen by her apparently as a feminine version of the name 
Isaiah, and she claimed she did not know of the connection to Jesus at the time 
she chose it:

http://www.issalight.com/press/press-1006-globemail.html

I did notice a week ago that the name was associated with Jesus because of a 
program on a history channel entitled "Jesus in India". Some youtube items are 
up about Jesus in Kashmir and BBC snippets. Wikipedia, as mentioned by an 
earlier person posting in this topic, lists Jesus in the top two entries for the 
several examples of Issa's to choose from to read about.

The Issa in the oriental calendar quote is likely the Japanese Haiku fellow 
though.
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orange-clouds@sbcglobal.net | 15 Jan 2009 17:48
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issa/ jesus - that's all i have to say about that.

Mary,

thanks for the link to the issa press thing on the name choosing. i'll check
it out as time
allows. as far as the remote possibility of her modeling herself after
jesus.... well, i can't
think of a better person/idea/image/way of life to model after. hmmm.
interesting.

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(8.4 8.4.Tracy

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From: Marypt51 <at> aol.com <Marypt51 <at> aol.com>
Subject: Re: "issa" quoted in zen 365 page a day calendar
To: siblings <at> smoe.org
Date: Thursday, January 15, 2009, 9:57 AM

I don't begrudge Jane's desire to change her name to anything she wants
any
time, but if the idea for Issa as a name came from the Islamic name for Jesus
(Isa or Issa) or from the Issa/Jesus whose travels in India 19th century
journalist Nicolas Notovitch purported to have found described at length in a
document in an Indian lamasery, I would have considered that a bizarre choice,
especially given it accompanied the timing of her decision to abandon all
possessions.

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Marypt51 | 15 Jan 2009 18:04
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Re: issa/ jesus - that's all i have to say about that.

In a message dated 1/15/09 11:48:52 AM, orange-clouds <at> sbcglobal.net writes:

> Mary,
>   
>  thanks for the link to the issa press thing on the name choosing. i'll
> check it out as time
>  allows. as far as the remote possibility of her modeling herself after
> jesus.... well, i can't
>  think of a better person/idea/image/way of life to model after. hmmm.
> interesting.
>
>
>

I wasn't referring to modelling herself after Jesus as a problem. I was
saying I would not think it would be particularly sane or good taste to
suddenly
assume a famous figure's identity as though to imply one is someone else's
reincarnation, but she already clarified in an interview she was just picking
a
name by sound and working with a feminized version of the name Isaiah.

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Nicola Thornhill | 15 Jan 2009 18:42
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Re: "issa" quoted in zen 365 page a day calendar

Jesus is a common and acceptable name given to boys in some countries.  I 
don't believe it's of  any concern;  I think she is just doing her thing. 
She is no doubt by conventional standards different/bizarre and that she 
always  has an original take on things, is true to herself and a trail 
blazer is why I adore her.

Many years ago I  attended a workshop weekend she did and we did a group 
study/ponder on how the shapes and directions of letters in a word formed an 
energy map of sort. I'm curious as to her thinking behind the word Issa in 
that regard. The S's certainly shape an interesting energy direction with 
the roundness and the forward/backward shape and with two S's, it seemingly 
intensifies that.

From: <Marypt51 <at> aol.com>
To: <siblings <at> smoe.org>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:57 AM
Subject: Re: "issa" quoted in zen 365 page a day calendar

>I don't begrudge Jane's desire to change her name to anything she wants any
> time, but if the idea for Issa as a name came from the Islamic name for 
> Jesus
> (Isa or Issa) or from the Issa/Jesus whose travels in India 19th century
> journalist Nicolas Notovitch purported to have found described at length 
> in a
> document in an Indian lamasery, I would have considered that a bizarre 
> choice,
> especially given it accompanied the timing of her decision to abandon all
> possessions.
>
> The decision to get rid of possessions is something I think is highly
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