14 Nov 2006 18:51
14 Nov 2006 19:11
new releases
Steven Kretzmann <yostevik <at> yahoo.com>
2006-11-14 18:11:36 GMT
2006-11-14 18:11:36 GMT
Not really... but I just got the new Damien Rice CD, which is AWESOME, like his first one! Stevik (recently relocated to Philadlephia) --- DERSF <at> aol.com wrote: > Is anyone else excited about the release of Yusuf > Islam's (Cat Stevens) new > record? > > David Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
15 Nov 2006 18:47
Re: (no subject)
<DERSF <at> aol.com>
2006-11-15 17:47:17 GMT
2006-11-15 17:47:17 GMT
What I have heard him say is that he was misquoted. The fact is that what we have all heard about that incident came through the media and most of us know how that goes. The man did just receive Britain's "Man of Peace Award" in 2004 a month after being refused entry to the U.S. because he was on the "No-Fly" list. So, I think it is fair to say that there are conflicting opinions of his character. The U.S. government did admit their mistake and he is no longer on that list. In a message dated 11/15/2006 9:28:14 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, glenn <at> nelson.name writes: You mean the peace and love musician of the 70s who publicly supported the calls for assassination of Salman Rushdie in the 80s? On 11/14/06, _DERSF <at> aol.com_ (mailto:DERSF <at> aol.com) <_DERSF <at> aol.com_ (mailto:DERSF <at> aol.com) > wrote: Is anyone else excited about the release of Yusuf Islam's (Cat Stevens) new record? David
15 Nov 2006 19:50
Re: (no subject)
Ben Thomas <F50BFT1 <at> wpo.cso.niu.edu>
2006-11-15 18:50:14 GMT
2006-11-15 18:50:14 GMT
Just weighing in, mostly because a friend sent me info re: Yusaf's new cd and what I thought about it a few days ago. Looking thru news items and doing a couple quickie 'searches', I came up with this bit...he's gotten too extreme, too far away... Yusuf Islam's own website further reveals his fundamentalist and radical bent. It celebrates his collaboration with a notorious American Islamist, Shaikh Hamza Yusuf [Hanson]. Hamza Yusuf was known before September 11 for his radical preaching. In 1991, Hamza Yusuf "gave a provoking speech about why 'Jihad is the Only Way,'" at an International Islamic Conference held at the University of Southern California by the local unit of the Islamic Circle of North America (ICNA), a front for the al Qaeda-allied Jama'at-i-Islami movement in Pakistan. The same Los Angeles event was addressed by Imam Siraj Wahhaj, an unindicted co-conspirator named in 1995 in a plot to blow up New York City monuments.. Stephen Schwartz, an author and journalist, is author of The Two Faces of Islam: The House of Sa'ud from Tradition to Terror. A vociferous critic of Wahhabism, Schwartz is a frequent contributor to National Review, The Weekly Standard, and other publications. >>> <DERSF <at> aol.com> 11/15/2006 11:47 AM >>> What I have heard him say is that he was misquoted. The fact is that what we have all heard about that incident came through the media and most of us know how that goes. The man did just receive Britain's "Man of Peace Award" in 2004 a month after being refused entry to the U.S. because he was on(Continue reading)
15 Nov 2006 21:08
UK music Hall of Fame BBC radio 2 broadcast
birdie <birdies <at> ix.netcom.com>
2006-11-15 20:08:41 GMT
2006-11-15 20:08:41 GMT
Dusty, Prince, George Martin, Led Zepplin, James Brown, Rod Stewart.... It will show on VH-1, I think on thanksgiving.... But, here it is - as a radio show... http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/musicclub/ukmusic.shtml
16 Nov 2006 16:45
Yusuf
<Marypt51 <at> aol.com>
2006-11-16 15:45:36 GMT
2006-11-16 15:45:36 GMT
Poor Cat Stevens. On the strength of the below defense of him, I went to catstevens.com, clicked the THINK link, and got a pop up, "Yusuf Islam: Mountain of Light". I then click the "Islam Spiritual Domain" link and get this nice information from him: "Dress & Dietary Requirements In Islam, clothing has two purposes; to cover the body and to modestly beautify one's appearance. Men are to dress modestly, not imitating women. Women's clothing must cover all of the body including the head, and should not be tight or transparent. For a Muslim, there are two types of food and drink; Halal (lawful) and Haram (unlawful). Unlawful, forbidden (Haram) food and drink includes: *Meat from dead animals that died naturally through accidents [except fish], or by strangling, falling, beating, or being killed by wild animals. *Blood that has poured forth (as distinguished from the blood adhering to flesh or organs). *Flesh of swine, such as bacon or pork, including all products and by-products (lard, pepsin, gelatin, etc.) prepared from swine. Only vegetable oil is used for frying and in the preparation of bread, salad dressing, desserts, muffins, other bakery products, etc. *Food upon which any other name has been invoked, besides that of God. *Intoxicants, including all types and varieties of alcohol and intoxicating drugs." Looks like it's time to get out my burkha. And I'll have to drop my cross-dressing male friends immediately if I'm to hang out with Yusuf. ------(Continue reading)
16 Nov 2006 16:55
Re: Yusuf p.s.
<Marypt51 <at> aol.com>
2006-11-16 15:55:27 GMT
2006-11-16 15:55:27 GMT
I started my post with: >>Poor Cat Stevens. << By that first sentence, I meant "poor guy, he's been treated mean by the media regarding the Rushdie matter" but I didn't write the rest of the post in an order that made the first sentence make sense. Sorry about that. Also, as for the other post where someone wrote: >>>>>>>>Yusuf Islam's own website further reveals his fundamentalist and radical bent. It celebrates his collaboration with a notorious American Islamist, Shaikh Hamza Yusuf [Hanson]. Hamza Yusuf was known before September 11 for his radical preaching. In 1991, Hamza Yusuf "gave a provoking speech about why 'Jihad is the Only Way,'" at an International Islamic Conference held at the University of Souther<<<<<<<<< The "only way" -- well, "Jihad is the only way" that Muslim menfolk are going to get some of us into burkhas - by force, in my case!
16 Nov 2006 17:02
Re: Yusuf
Ben Thomas <F50BFT1 <at> wpo.cso.niu.edu>
2006-11-16 16:02:24 GMT
2006-11-16 16:02:24 GMT
Girl, can you feel my love? I too did a butt-load of reading once I got the first post, and I'm so glad that folks are not jumping my or anyone else's crap about posts. We get to have opinions, and it's been wonderful to get so many different points of view. We're a diverse little group I believe, but there's so much universal about us, I'm glad there's not been anything divisive enough to make us be mean to each other. I check out youtube.com pretty regularly, and it never ceases to amaze me just how many people out there in cyberland simply log on to be evil to other people. Now, don't get me wrong, I put the EEEE! in Evil, but only to those loved ones of mine that are SO derserving. I couldn't imagine even posting anonymous ugliness about people I don't even know! Anyway, I love it when out little list comes alive, and generally, it's due to someone posting something a bit controversial or topically energized, then it's off to the races! Truly, I read every post and like you all...I really really do! Thanks! BenThomas >>> <Marypt51 <at> aol.com> 11/16/2006 9:45 AM >>> Poor Cat Stevens. On the strength of the below defense of him, I went to catstevens.com, clicked the THINK link, and got a pop up, "Yusuf Islam: Mountain of Light". I then click the "Islam Spiritual Domain" link and get this nice information from him: "Dress & Dietary Requirements(Continue reading)
16 Nov 2006 17:37
Re: Yusuf
<Marypt51 <at> aol.com>
2006-11-16 16:37:42 GMT
2006-11-16 16:37:42 GMT
In a message dated 11/16/2006 11:10:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, F50BFT1 <at> wpo.cso.niu.edu writes: Girl, can you feel my love? I too did a butt-load of reading once I got the first post, and I'm so glad that folks are not jumping my or anyone else's crap about posts. We get to have opinions, and it's been wonderful to get so many different points of view. We're a diverse little group I believe, but there's so much universal about us, I'm glad there's not been anything divisive enough to make us be mean to each other. I check out youtube.com pretty regularly, and it never ceases to amaze me just how many people out there in cyberland simply log on to be evil to other people. Now, don't get me wrong, I put the EEEE! in Evil, but only to those loved ones of mine that are SO derserving. I couldn't imagine even posting anonymous ugliness about people I don't even know! Anyway, I love it when out little list comes alive, and generally, it's due to someone posting something a bit controversial or topically energized, then it's off to the races! Truly, I read every post and like you all...I really really do! Thanks! BenThomas I don't know what made you start talking about people logging in to be evil to others. I made a point to say at the end of my post that I was not attacking anyone, just listing my thoughts from reviewing the website of Cat Stevens and trying to have some humor. I had liked his a music a lot as a teenager. There's a lot I remember about that time period and reading about eastern religions including Hinduism, and some of my friends were reading Siddhartha, and Cat Stevens was on the radio. It is a bit of a downer to me that after that open-minded period, he went down the path of strict fundamentalism, including that of how women should dress, but I also think he is in a position to help a lot(Continue reading)
16 Nov 2006 17:46
Re: Yusuf
Ben Thomas <F50BFT1 <at> wpo.cso.niu.edu>
2006-11-16 16:46:46 GMT
2006-11-16 16:46:46 GMT
ohmygosh Mary, I'm sorry you've misunderstood my meaning, as well as my own convoluted typing made me sound like I was speaking about your post, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE. Ohmygoodness, I'm sorry for making you feel like I was commenting on your posts, but NO, I was referring to my time spent on "youtube.com", and the evil postings that I keep reading there. Not your post about Yusef, or for that matter, any Sibling posts. I've not experienced the 'evil' I referred to with the Siblings, but rather on youtube.com. People log on there simply to watch someone else's video posts, then make horrid and evil comments, when it would make more sense to just not watch the vids that you know you'll dislike! Please know that I never meant anything about your posts, in fact, I meant to be positive about the list 'coming alive' periodically. And also, please don't let me or any other mush-mouth out there cause you to not post or respond to others. No one is worth keeping you quiet! I truly hope you understand that I never meant to speak out against anything anyone here posts. Ben(needs to compose his mail better!)Thomas >>> <Marypt51 <at> aol.com> 11/16/2006 10:37 AM >>> In a message dated 11/16/2006 11:10:46 AM Eastern Standard Time, F50BFT1 <at> wpo.cso.niu.edu writes: Girl, can you feel my love? I too did a butt-load of reading once I got the first post, and I'm so glad that folks are not jumping my or anyone else's crap about posts. We get to have opinions, and it's been wonderful to get so many different points of view. We're a diverse little group I believe, but there's so much universal about us, I'm(Continue reading)
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