Esa Ruoho | 3 Sep 07:12 2015
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Fwd: New release from Venetian Snares

speaking of fine strategies

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Greetings esa ruoho,
Venetian Snares just released Find Candace, check it out here.

Enjoy!



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Chris | 3 Sep 01:25 2015
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Re: IDM you don't like



That Tycho stuff needs to GTFO

On Sep 2, 2015, at 7:08 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta <at> gmail.com> wrote:

heh, 'sing an album of tracks when you arent a good singer and write terrible lyrics' -- i can think of an example, venetian snares!


Clint Anderson
Systems Engineer

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 4:43 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher <at> gmail.com> wrote:
There's good self-indulgence and bad self-indulgence, at least in music.  Good self-indulgence is finding something you want to explore and going all the way in without worrying about how it's going to be received or how well it fits standard formats.  An example is the way Riccardo Villalobos makes 20 minute tracks. They're not all great, but the good ones are unlike anything else.

Bad self-indulgence would be to sing an album of tracks when you aren't a good singer and you write terrible lyrics.  I can't think of an IDM example, and even then that's subjective.

It's good self-indulgence when you don't think about whether anyone else will like it, and it turns out good. It's bad self-indulgence if you follow your muse, and the result sucks.

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:27 AM Clint Anderson <clinta <at> gmail.com> wrote:
yeah i dunno i was thinking about that -- how is being self-indulgent a bad thing?
also, by saying that, are you implying that the artists you DO like are NOT self indulgent?
(name some i bet they all are)

anyways tom being a ass that everyone hates just makes me like him more


Clint Anderson
Systems Engineer

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:47 AM, David Seruyange <g3scom <at> gmail.com> wrote:
I've always liked Squarepusher though stuff like 'Music Is Rotted..' did had some low points ("self indulgent" though I guess he's an artist with the right to make what he wants and I can opt not to buy... or just listen to individual tracks). 

Never liked Moby, never understood why he was as popular as he was... even for the stuff that was more classified as pop. 


 

On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta <at> gmail.com> wrote:
go back
tom
do it again


Clint Anderson
Systems Engineer

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:39 PM, A. Arentia Goofinoff <meatsock <at> gmail.com> wrote:

as in squarepusher was named after a mythical sex toy then? one should not try to fit a square peg in a round hole!

On Sep 1, 2015 9:23 PM, "Clint Anderson" <clinta <at> gmail.com> wrote:
the steely dan of techno


Clint Anderson
Systems Engineer

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:54 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher <at> gmail.com> wrote:
I also like that the kind of stuff by Squarepusher I like (like "Music Is Rotted One Note") is cited as something someone else on the list hates. "Squarpusher. Never could get into his stuff, especially the self-indulgent and extremely boring acoustic stuff." Thanks Mark!

We do also need to start a soundcloud free account in the name "SQUARPUSHER" and start posting wierd shit.

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:27 PM Clint Anderson <clinta <at> gmail.com> wrote:
this is funny because in theory doesnt squarepusher .. 'push' a lot of albums?  i mean i get the impression that second to afx he is one of warp's bigger electronic acts but yet every other person i talk to HATES his music, not just dislikes but people say stuff just like what you guys are sort of saying, like that his style is actually offensively 'self indulgent' to people heh
i guess i kind of see this but at the same time it really doesnt affect me listening to the music or maybe i even enjoy that aspect of it...i loved big loada, hard normal daddy, damogen furies, i thought ufabulum was eh, but then he came out with the kcrw sessions which basically 'fixed' the issues i had with ufabulum...
i dunno my one best friend says vehemently "there is NOTHING original or interesting about ANYTHING he's done"


Clint Anderson
Systems Engineer

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 7:01 AM, Mark Schieldrop <mark <at> schieldrop.us> wrote:

Squarpusher. Never could get into his stuff, especially the self-indulgent and extremely boring acoustic stuff.

 

And obligatory: Moby. Though, he’s arguably not IDM.

 

From: Laurent Knauth [mailto:laurent.knauth <at> gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 3:39 AM
To: Faraz Masroor
Cc: Idm List
Subject: Re: IDM you don't like

 

Problem with this topic is that the list is endless...

Hell is the limit !

 

On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Faraz Masroor <faraz_masroor <at> yahoo.com> wrote:

We have a lot of discussion here about history of IDM, podcasts, new releases were interested in, etc. Basically stuff we like, but how about a thread for stuff you don't like?

 

I'll start. I don't find Aphex twin very interesting because his new songs are unfocused and too similar to each other, kinda boring. I haven't listened to SAW yet but I imagine I'll like it better. 

 

Faraz

 







Esa J. Ruoho | 2 Sep 17:55 2015
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Fwd: New release from Venetian Snares

Loox like he is pushing out releases slowly. Good strategy IMHO 

Sent from some iDevice. Written by Esa.

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Greetings esa ruoho,
Venetian Snares just released Doll Doll Doll, check it out here.

Enjoy!



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kent williams | 1 Sep 21:04 2015
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New bandcamp post by Ventilated Snapes

It's actually a single track that was put out in 2002 on Hymen. I'd never heard it.  It's kind of a mix of his John Carpenter soundtrack thing with his noisy breaks thing.

https://venetiansnares.bandcamp.com/album/a-giant-alien-force-more-violent-sick-than-anything-you-can-imagine

And then there's this thing he did with Speedranch which is the most relentlessly harsh thing I've ever paid money for.  And every time I go back to it, I think it's even more brilliant than I remembered it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhJA-g5un8w



Maximus | 1 Sep 20:05 2015
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Re: jean michael jarre

I like Zoolook.

is it possible not to like oxygene? i mean come on now... ;)

On 1 September 2015 at 17:28, Clint Anderson <clinta <at> gmail.com> wrote:
http://www.factmag.com/2015/03/17/jean-michel-jarre-announces-first-album-in-eight-years/


someone was talking about things we hate
here's one

can anyone point me to a piece of music by JMJ that is at all interesting?




Clint Anderson
Systems Engineer



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Clint Anderson | 1 Sep 18:28 2015
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jean michael jarre

http://www.factmag.com/2015/03/17/jean-michel-jarre-announces-first-album-in-eight-years/


someone was talking about things we hate
here's one

can anyone point me to a piece of music by JMJ that is at all interesting?




Clint Anderson
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David Seruyange | 31 Aug 22:30 2015
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Black Dog

Thoughts on Neither/Neither?

(I like what I've heard so far... ) 



Faraz Masroor | 29 Aug 01:53 2015
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IDM you don't like

We have a lot of discussion here about history of IDM, podcasts, new releases were interested in, etc. Basically stuff we like, but how about a thread for stuff you don't like?

I'll start. I don't find Aphex twin very interesting because his new songs are unfocused and too similar to each other, kinda boring. I haven't listened to SAW yet but I imagine I'll like it better. 

Faraz
Clint Anderson | 28 Aug 22:09 2015
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afx - dx9 20 afx voices

heh someone decoded what this 'random noise' sounding track is:

So, for anyone wondering why AFX uploaded a noise this painful to Soundcloud... the answer may intrigue you.

This track was not meant for human consumption. "Maybe you would like it if you had robot ears." -- JP - Grandma's Boy

JP was correct in his assertion. At least, in this case. The track "dx9-20-afx-voices" is actually a memory dump of Presets from the Yamaha DX-9 Synthesizer.

Old Synthesizers [and some modern ones... like the Korg Monotribe] Use Analogue recordings to store Firmware information, Setup information, and even presets.

Old Synths usually use a Radio Shack TRS-80 Style Computer Controlled Cassette Player.

In the case of the Monotribe... you downloaded a .wav file from Korg, you hook an audio cable from your laptop/phone playing the .wav file... to the Sync port on your synth... you put it into mode where it will accept a data transfer... and then you hit play... and the synth interprets the audio it is hearing like a file is being sent to it over a dial-up modem [it even sounds like a dial-up modem.. because essentially... it is].

Then the synth reboots... and now there's new information in it... In the case of DX-9 Voices... if you have a Yamaha DX-9... this would allow you to get your hands on the Presets that Richard D. James most likely used on some of his tracks that make use of the Yamaha DX-9.

So... if you know anyone with a Yamaha DX-9.... or even a TX-9... and you want some Instruments Presets from the Ginger Wizard himself... this is one way to get them.


https://soundcloud.com/user18081971/dx9-20-afx-voices


Clint Anderson
Systems Engineer
Clint Anderson | 28 Aug 20:36 2015
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Re: afx umil 25-01

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0iVj-vD18Q

not an improvement over the original windowlicker video but interesting nonetheless


Clint Anderson
Systems Engineer

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 8:54 AM, Faraz Masroor <faraz_masroor <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
why are these double posting? 

anyway yeah it sounds straight outta syro




On Thursday, August 27, 2015 9:51 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta <at> gmail.com> wrote:


I REALLY LIKE IT
its like a proto-syro sounding track that sounds like it came from the same setup/period as the other deejay selek


Clint Anderson
Systems Engineer

On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Faraz Masroor <faraz_masroor <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
silly esa

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
AFX - umil 25-01 - Warp
### Please note - if you have purchased orphaned deejay selek 2006-2008 this has already been added to your account. Not content with releasing one of the most hea...
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On Thursday, August 27, 2015 9:47 AM, esa ruoho <esaruoho <at> gmail.com> wrote:


Umil 25-01 ain't there. https://bleep.com/release/61781-afx-orphaned-deejay-selek-2006-2008


On 27 Aug 2015, at 16:46, Faraz Masroor <faraz_masroor <at> yahoo.com> wrote:

i played a sample of the song on bleep store to formulate my opinon



On Thursday, August 27, 2015 9:45 AM, esa ruoho <esaruoho <at> gmail.com> wrote:


Clint, where'd you find a stream of AFX Umil 25-01?
The one I see on YouTube is blocked by my country.


On 27 Aug 2015, at 00:28, Clint Anderson <clinta <at> gmail.com> wrote:

its really good :)


Clint Anderson
Systems Engineer

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Alan Lucas <alucas <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Ah. Well, I got the email about umil-25-01 separately from the EP. Probably because I bought it from Bleep. So it might not be on your download card anyway.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta <at> gmail.com> wrote:
yeah thats another advantage of buying from bleep vs american stores
i got this from amoeba (only because jeremy <at> experimedia was on vacation!)
heh ill find it eventually just laughing at myself now is all



Clint Anderson
Systems Engineer

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Alan Lucas <alucas <at> gmail.com> wrote:
You didn't get an email with a download link? I did. 


On Wednesday, August 26, 2015, Clint Anderson <clinta <at> gmail.com> wrote:
https://bleep.com/release/63405-afx-umil-25-01


so fucking great that i tossed the download card when i got the album
*facepalm*

Clint Anderson
Systems Engineer













Esa Ruoho | 28 Aug 18:31 2015
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The Hunt for the Brothomstates

Calling all archivists.

Might you have these in FLAC/320KBPS MP3s (or any version)?

1- Merck V/A: Squadron: Brothomstates: 2410199
2- EEM V/A: EEM Volume One: Airliner Series track
3- Merck: Machinedrum (Riveurs Enjienrd by Brothomstates Remix)
4- Merck: MD Appelsap: Brothomstates Remix
5- Merck: Proem: Bolt Action Aardvark (Brothomstates Remix) 
6- Touched V1: Brothomstates: Mak R-5
7- Laurent Garnier: Greed Gets Remixed (Brothomstates RMX)

then please get in touch off-list.


p.s. if you want an invite to a googledrive, then mail me too.
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