Fwd: New release from Venetian Snares
2015-09-03 05:12:29 GMT
From: Bandcamp <noreply <at> bandcamp.com>
Date: 2 September 2015 at 17:55
Subject: New release from Venetian Snares
To: esa ruoho <esaruoho <at> gmail.com>
heh, 'sing an album of tracks when you arent a good singer and write terrible lyrics' -- i can think of an example, venetian snares!Clint Anderson
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 4:43 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher <at> gmail.com> wrote:There's good self-indulgence and bad self-indulgence, at least in music. Good self-indulgence is finding something you want to explore and going all the way in without worrying about how it's going to be received or how well it fits standard formats. An example is the way Riccardo Villalobos makes 20 minute tracks. They're not all great, but the good ones are unlike anything else.
Bad self-indulgence would be to sing an album of tracks when you aren't a good singer and you write terrible lyrics. I can't think of an IDM example, and even then that's subjective.
It's good self-indulgence when you don't think about whether anyone else will like it, and it turns out good. It's bad self-indulgence if you follow your muse, and the result sucks.On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 11:27 AM Clint Anderson <clinta <at> gmail.com> wrote:
yeah i dunno i was thinking about that -- how is being self-indulgent a bad thing?also, by saying that, are you implying that the artists you DO like are NOT self indulgent?(name some i bet they all are)anyways tom being a ass that everyone hates just makes me like him moreClint Anderson
On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 10:47 AM, David Seruyange <g3scom <at> gmail.com> wrote:I've always liked Squarepusher though stuff like 'Music Is Rotted..' did had some low points ("self indulgent" though I guess he's an artist with the right to make what he wants and I can opt not to buy... or just listen to individual tracks).Never liked Moby, never understood why he was as popular as he was... even for the stuff that was more classified as pop.On Wed, Sep 2, 2015 at 9:34 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta <at> gmail.com> wrote:go backtomdo it againClint Anderson
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:39 PM, A. Arentia Goofinoff <meatsock <at> gmail.com> wrote:
as in squarepusher was named after a mythical sex toy then? one should not try to fit a square peg in a round hole!On Sep 1, 2015 9:23 PM, "Clint Anderson" <clinta <at> gmail.com> wrote:the steely dan of technoClint Anderson
On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:54 PM, kent williams <chaircrusher <at> gmail.com> wrote:I also like that the kind of stuff by Squarepusher I like (like "Music Is Rotted One Note") is cited as something someone else on the list hates. "Squarpusher. Never could get into his stuff, especially the self-indulgent and extremely boring acoustic stuff." Thanks Mark!
We do also need to start a soundcloud free account in the name "SQUARPUSHER" and start posting wierd shit.On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 1:27 PM Clint Anderson <clinta <at> gmail.com> wrote:
this is funny because in theory doesnt squarepusher .. 'push' a lot of albums? i mean i get the impression that second to afx he is one of warp's bigger electronic acts but yet every other person i talk to HATES his music, not just dislikes but people say stuff just like what you guys are sort of saying, like that his style is actually offensively 'self indulgent' to people hehi guess i kind of see this but at the same time it really doesnt affect me listening to the music or maybe i even enjoy that aspect of it...i loved big loada, hard normal daddy, damogen furies, i thought ufabulum was eh, but then he came out with the kcrw sessions which basically 'fixed' the issues i had with ufabulum...i dunno my one best friend says vehemently "there is NOTHING original or interesting about ANYTHING he's done"Clint Anderson
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 7:01 AM, Mark Schieldrop <mark <at> schieldrop.us> wrote:
Squarpusher. Never could get into his stuff, especially the self-indulgent and extremely boring acoustic stuff.
And obligatory: Moby. Though, he’s arguably not IDM.
From: Laurent Knauth [mailto:laurent.knauth <at> gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, August 29, 2015 3:39 AM
To: Faraz Masroor
Cc: Idm List
Subject: Re: IDM you don't like
Problem with this topic is that the list is endless...
Hell is the limit !
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 1:53 AM, Faraz Masroor <faraz_masroor <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
We have a lot of discussion here about history of IDM, podcasts, new releases were interested in, etc. Basically stuff we like, but how about a thread for stuff you don't like?
I'll start. I don't find Aphex twin very interesting because his new songs are unfocused and too similar to each other, kinda boring. I haven't listened to SAW yet but I imagine I'll like it better.
is it possible not to like oxygene? i mean come on now... ;)On 1 September 2015 at 17:28, Clint Anderson <clinta <at> gmail.com> wrote:http://www.factmag.com/2015/03/17/jean-michel-jarre-announces-first-album-in-eight-years/someone was talking about things we hatehere's onecan anyone point me to a piece of music by JMJ that is at all interesting?Clint Anderson
Sent from my Sinclair ZX Spectrum 48K
noise I make:
noise I like:
sites I run:
So, for anyone wondering why AFX uploaded a noise this painful to Soundcloud... the answer may intrigue you.
This track was not meant for human consumption. "Maybe you would like it if you had robot ears." -- JP - Grandma's Boy
JP was correct in his assertion. At least, in this case. The track "dx9-20-afx-voices" is actually a memory dump of Presets from the Yamaha DX-9 Synthesizer.
Old Synthesizers [and some modern ones... like the Korg Monotribe] Use Analogue recordings to store Firmware information, Setup information, and even presets.
Old Synths usually use a Radio Shack TRS-80 Style Computer Controlled Cassette Player.
In the case of the Monotribe... you downloaded a .wav file from Korg, you hook an audio cable from your laptop/phone playing the .wav file... to the Sync port on your synth... you put it into mode where it will accept a data transfer... and then you hit play... and the synth interprets the audio it is hearing like a file is being sent to it over a dial-up modem [it even sounds like a dial-up modem.. because essentially... it is].
Then the synth reboots... and now there's new information in it... In the case of DX-9 Voices... if you have a Yamaha DX-9... this would allow you to get your hands on the Presets that Richard D. James most likely used on some of his tracks that make use of the Yamaha DX-9.
So... if you know anyone with a Yamaha DX-9.... or even a TX-9... and you want some Instruments Presets from the Ginger Wizard himself... this is one way to get them.
why are these double posting?anyway yeah it sounds straight outta syro
On Thursday, August 27, 2015 9:51 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta <at> gmail.com> wrote:
I REALLY LIKE IT
its like a proto-syro sounding track that sounds like it came from the same setup/period as the other deejay selekClint Anderson
On Thu, Aug 27, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Faraz Masroor <faraz_masroor <at> yahoo.com> wrote:silly esa
AFX - umil 25-01 - Warp### Please note - if you have purchased orphaned deejay selek 2006-2008 this has already been added to your account. Not content with releasing one of the most hea... Preview by Yahoo
On Thursday, August 27, 2015 9:47 AM, esa ruoho <esaruoho <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Umil 25-01 ain't there. https://bleep.com/release/61781-afx-orphaned-deejay-selek-2006-2008On 27 Aug 2015, at 16:46, Faraz Masroor <faraz_masroor <at> yahoo.com> wrote:i played a sample of the song on bleep store to formulate my opinon
On Thursday, August 27, 2015 9:45 AM, esa ruoho <esaruoho <at> gmail.com> wrote:
Clint, where'd you find a stream of AFX Umil 25-01?The one I see on YouTube is blocked by my country.On 27 Aug 2015, at 00:28, Clint Anderson <clinta <at> gmail.com> wrote:its really good :)Clint Anderson
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Alan Lucas <alucas <at> gmail.com> wrote:Ah. Well, I got the email about umil-25-01 separately from the EP. Probably because I bought it from Bleep. So it might not be on your download card anyway.On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:55 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta <at> gmail.com> wrote:yeah thats another advantage of buying from bleep vs american storesi got this from amoeba (only because jeremy <at> experimedia was on vacation!)heh ill find it eventually just laughing at myself now is allClint Anderson
On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 2:54 PM, Alan Lucas <alucas <at> gmail.com> wrote:You didn't get an email with a download link? I did.