--- In YamahaDX <at> yahoogroups.com, Jason Adkins <jason_ralf808 <at> ...> wrote:
>
> Hi Nate,
>
> Personally I don't see the point of making FM sounds sound
> analog,apart from artistic reasons,whatever they must be,anyway can't
> he use the DX200? that has FM with Filters.
> Anyway,I have posted my option,although I wouldn't say no to an MF-101
> if it was free.
> Oh yeah, try and find a real analog synth on the web,go for something
> obscure,it will not cost as much
> as you think.
>
> Jason
>
> On 30 Sep 2011, at 18:49, Nate King wrote:
>
> >
> > What kind of sound/features aare you after? Moog mf-101 works well.
> > Jomox m-resonator is cool and can process two sources. There are a
> > ton of eurorack/.com format modules or diy filters out there that
> > could be riggged to function as a stand-alone.
> > Also, the line6 filter box (fm4?) Is good tho just digital models.
> > Electrix filter factory is a ggood one as well. Big bucks = sherman
> > filter bank or that biscuit thingy. Mutable instruments hhas a
> > stannd allone filter that would wwork.
> > That's alll I can think of for now :)
> > Oh, and iiff you're reallly feeling llike breaking out the
> > sollderingg iron, googlle "polymoog resonator". That's pperfect for
> > turning digital uun-digital.
> > Nate
> >
> > On Sep 30, 2011 1:35 PM, "sweetsynthchuck"
> > <sweetsynthchuck <at> ...> wrote:
> > > Hi Guys im on the search of a analogue filter , any suggestions?
> > >
> > > to process fm and other bits and bobs.
> > >
> > > would love any feedback on what to get and why.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > >
> > > if this topic is inappropriate for the group mods please delete,
> > >
> > > Chuck

Another option would be to buy an SY77/99 as they have AFM and filters, I rarely use my DX7IIFD since getting the SYs (mostly kept the IIFD for nostalgic reasons). And actually, making FM sound very analog is a wonderful option if you don't have any analog gear around.
Clyde

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i don't know but i can obtain filter , resonance results on my
dx7 "real time " level sweeps too , whats the real purpose of a filter
anyhow?

charles

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From: "wildpaws2001" <wildpaws <at> earthlink.net>
To: <YamahaDX <at> yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, September 30, 2011 5:13 PM
Subject: [YamahaDX] Re: analogue filter? which one would you buy

>
>
> --- In YamahaDX <at> yahoogroups.com, Jason Adkins <jason_ralf808 <at> ...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Nate,
> >
> > Personally I don't see the point of making FM sounds sound
> > analog,apart from artistic reasons,whatever they must be,anyway can't
> > he use the DX200? that has FM with Filters.
> > Anyway,I have posted my option,although I wouldn't say no to an MF-101
> > if it was free.
> > Oh yeah, try and find a real analog synth on the web,go for something
> > obscure,it will not cost as much
> > as you think.
> >
> > Jason
> >
> > On 30 Sep 2011, at 18:49, Nate King wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > What kind of sound/features aare you after? Moog mf-101 works well.
> > > Jomox m-resonator is cool and can process two sources. There are a
> > > ton of eurorack/.com format modules or diy filters out there that
> > > could be riggged to function as a stand-alone.
> > > Also, the line6 filter box (fm4?) Is good tho just digital models.
> > > Electrix filter factory is a ggood one as well. Big bucks = sherman
> > > filter bank or that biscuit thingy. Mutable instruments hhas a
> > > stannd allone filter that would wwork.
> > > That's alll I can think of for now :)
> > > Oh, and iiff you're reallly feeling llike breaking out the
> > > sollderingg iron, googlle "polymoog resonator". That's pperfect for
> > > turning digital uun-digital.
> > > Nate
> > >
> > > On Sep 30, 2011 1:35 PM, "sweetsynthchuck"
> > > <sweetsynthchuck <at> ...> wrote:
> > > > Hi Guys im on the search of a analogue filter , any suggestions?
> > > >
> > > > to process fm and other bits and bobs.
> > > >
> > > > would love any feedback on what to get and why.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > if this topic is inappropriate for the group mods please delete,
> > > >
> > > > Chuck
>
>
> Another option would be to buy an SY77/99 as they have AFM and filters, I
rarely use my DX7IIFD since getting the SYs (mostly kept the IIFD for
nostalgic reasons). And actually, making FM sound very analog is a wonderful
option if you don't have any analog gear around.
> Clyde
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

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On Fri, 30 Sep 2011, sweetsynthchuck wrote:

> Hi Guys im on the search of a analogue filter , any suggestions?
>
> to process fm and other bits and bobs.

Adding a real analog filter an all digital FM synth is an interesting
experiment. But: In your other posting you say you love FM but suck at
programming it. If you are thinking it is easier to tweak your DX/TX/TQ
sounds using an anlogue filter with knobs, than diving in the complicated
but adventureous world of algorhythms, operators, and frequency ratios,
you are on the wrong track. First learn how to make any (almost) sound you
are looking for using the FM synthesis, and only use external filtering
and effect processing - if you still need to - at the end of that process
!

--

MT

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On Fri, 30 Sep 2011, Jason Adkins wrote:

>  
>
> Hi Nate,
>
>
> Personally I don't see the point of making FM sounds sound analog,apart from artistic
> reasons,whatever they must be,anyway can't he use the DX200? that has FM with Filters.

The DX200, SY77, SY99, and plugins like FM8 have filter(-emulation). But
that does not help much if you don't own them

--

MT

----- Original Message -----

From: Martin Tarenskeen

To: YamahaDX <at> yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 6:08 AM

Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] analogue filter? which one would you buy

 

On Fri, 30 Sep 2011, sweetsynthchuck wrote:

> Hi Guys im on the search of a analogue filter , any suggestions?
>
> to process fm and other bits and bobs.

Adding a real analog filter an all digital FM synth is an interesting
experiment. But: In your other posting you say you love FM but suck at
programming it. If you are thinking it is easier to tweak your DX/TX/TQ
sounds using an anlogue filter with knobs, than diving in the complicated
but adventureous world of algorhythms, operators, and frequency ratios,
you are on the wrong track. First learn how to make any (almost) sound you
are looking for using the FM synthesis, and only use external filtering
and effect processing - if you still need to - at the end of that process
!

--

MT

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----- Original Message -----

From: Martin Tarenskeen

To: YamahaDX <at> yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, October 01, 2011 6:08 AM

Subject: Re: [YamahaDX] analogue filter? which one would you buy

 

On Fri, 30 Sep 2011, sweetsynthchuck wrote:

> Hi Guys im on the search of a analogue filter , any suggestions?
>
> to process fm and other bits and bobs.

Adding a real analog filter an all digital FM synth is an interesting
experiment. But: In your other posting you say you love FM but suck at
programming it. If you are thinking it is easier to tweak your DX/TX/TQ
sounds using an anlogue filter with knobs, than diving in the complicated
but adventureous world of algorhythms, operators, and frequency ratios,
you are on the wrong track. First learn how to make any (almost) sound you
are looking for using the FM synthesis, and only use external filtering
and effect processing - if you still need to - at the end of that process
!

--

MT

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--- In YamahaDX <at> yahoogroups.com, Martin Tarenskeen <m.tarenskeen <at> ...> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Fri, 30 Sep 2011, sweetsynthchuck wrote:
>
> > Hi Guys im on the search of a analogue filter , any suggestions?
> >
> > to process fm and other bits and bobs.
>
> Adding a real analog filter an all digital FM synth is an interesting
> experiment. But: In your other posting you say you love FM but suck at
> programming it. If you are thinking it is easier to tweak your DX/TX/TQ
> sounds using an anlogue filter with knobs, than diving in the complicated
> but adventureous world of algorhythms, operators, and frequency ratios,
> you are on the wrong track. First learn how to make any (almost) sound you
> are looking for using the FM synthesis, and only use external filtering
> and effect processing - if you still need to - at the end of that process
> !
>
> --
>
> MT
>
Absolutely Martin! Get every last little bit you can out of the Fm programming, then when you've carried it as far as you can run it through filters if you still want more. The SY99 is awesome for doing just that and the SY77 is not far behind it), I had a lot of fun and interesting results when I moved all of my DX7IIFD stuff over to my SY77/99, it always sounded better on the SYs, sometimes radically better.
Clyde

DX7IIFD, SY77, SY99, Hammond C3, Steinway L, CP300, etc.

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Guys,
I've been asked too much about the MIDI Velocity limitation on the DX series but have never seen a thread that reaches consensus.

What I know is that at least the DX7 mkI has the 0-100 MIDI Velocity limitation in all ROM versions. Unless you have a expansion board like the Grey Matter, there is no way to get MIDI Velocity to 127.

What about the Yamaha DX7 IID and IIFD?

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Pablo,

The DX7 (any version) has no limitation to velocity 100, believe it or not. It's just that its keyboard's velocity curve is exponential, so it's just *very hard* to achieve velocity values above 100, but it's possible. I already gof velocity=127 on my DX7 mkI, but I almost broke a key to do that. The SY77 has the same problem.

cheerz

Em 01/10/11 21:23, Pablo H Molina Leyton escreveu:

 

Guys,
I've been asked too much about the MIDI Velocity limitation on the DX series but have never seen a thread that reaches consensus.

What I know is that at least the DX7 mkI has the 0-100 MIDI Velocity limitation in all ROM versions. Unless you have a expansion board like the Grey Matter, there is no way to get MIDI Velocity to 127.

What about the Yamaha DX7 IID and IIFD?

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