How do I make a player name 'stick'?

Having got my fourth Squeezebox V3 working (thanks to help from this
forum!), I now find that SqueezeCenter (V7.2 - 22900) won't retain the
name I give it.

I select 'Player Settings for Squeezebox', change its name (e.g. to
'E-Workshop'), and click 'Save Changes'.  For the current session it
retains the new name, but after closing SqueezeCenter and opening it
again, or after a PC reboot, the name has reverted to 'Squeezebox'.

How can I make the new name stick?  And please don't ask me to upgrade
to a current version of SqueezeCenter/SqueezeServer, and no version
later than 7.2 works correctly on my Windows 2000 PC (even 7.2 is a
dog, but it's the best there is currently).

Daniel (Australia)

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Re: How do I make a player name 'stick'?

Is your new SB3 second hand, did the previous owner unregister the thing
on mysqueezebox.com (nee squeezenetwork) ?

Is it then registred to your account now ?

I don't really remember 7.2 but is it somewhere in the settings where
you can turn on and of squeezenetwork (mysqueebox.com) integration.

mysqueebox.com or squeezenetwork can muck up player names.

Have it properly downgraded itself to fw version 112 ?

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PLEASE FIX BUG 112
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Re: How do I make a player name 'stick'?

Mnyb;591940 Wrote: 
> Is your new SB3 second hand, did the previous owner unregister the thing
> on mysqueezebox.com (nee squeezenetwork)?
> 
> Is it then registred to your account now?
> 
> I don't really remember 7.2 but is it somewhere in the settings where
> you can turn on and of squeezenetwork (mysqueebox.com) integration.
> 
> mysqueebox.com or squeezenetwork can muck up player names.
> 
> Have it properly downgraded itself to fw version 112 ?

It's second-hand, and I don't know if the previous owner un-registered
it.
Yes, the firmware was upgraded to 112 (prev 81) when I first connected
it to SqueezeCenter.

I went to mysqueezebox.com and clicked on 'Players', and it showed all
four of my SB3 players.  But the 'new' one had reverted to being named
'Squeezebox' again (even though still named 'E-Workshop' in
SqueezeCenter!).  The text helpfully said 'To rename this Squeezebox,
please connect it to mysqueezebox.com', without any instructions on how
to do this (no obvious buttons on the 'Players' page!).

The Players page also showed all four of my players as 'Not connected',
though three of them are powered-up and on the network ('connected' to
SqueezeCenter) - does this mean not connected to *SqueezeNetwork*?

Re: How do I make a player name 'stick'?

Settings > mysqueezebox.com > mysqueezebox.com Integration

Set it to disabled and I'll bet you have no more problems.

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Re: How do I make a player name 'stick'?

DanielTheGreat;591974 Wrote: 
> ...
> The Players page also showed all four of my players as 'Not connected',
> though three of them are powered-up and on the network ('connected' to
> SqueezeCenter) - does this mean not connected to *SqueezeNetwork*?
> 
> ......I never use SqueezeNetwork, so it doesn't even appear in my
> players' menus.....

This is correct behavior.  Each player can only be connected to one
server at a time, either SC on your computer or SN online.
If your players are on SC then SN is correctly reporting that your
players are not connected to SN.
SC uses SN in the background so you can fully utilize SN Apps etc..
when your players are connected to SC.

SqueezeNetwork (now called MySqueezeBox) is on every SB3 by default. 
By default you can access connecting to SN two ways:
1.  press & hold the LEFT arrow to enter Setup, scroll to "connect to
SN"
2.  SB3 > Settings > Music Source > SN

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Re: Want to buy SB, but need to know if Zune fix will work

toby10;383734 Wrote: 
> The soon to be "defacto" is DRM free.  DRM has been such a dismal
> failure that Apple will discontinue using DRM in the next few weeks. 
> You can bet MS and the others are probably not far behind.   :)
> 
> Can you move a couple songs out of the Zune folder and play them via
> SC7?

DRM has been a complete failure due to iTunes!

Rolled out properly on a subscription basis, with proper hardware
support for it, e.g. wireless music players, I dont see the big issue.

Paying a measly £9 per month to play any music you like from any artist
at any time seems good value to me.

Zune is supported by Sonos. If Sonos can do it, why cant the SB?

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Re: Want to buy SB, but need to know if Zune fix will work

We don't support WMA DRM, sorry.

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Re: Want to buy SB, but need to know if Zune fix will work

andyrich29;591998 Wrote: 
> DRM has been a complete failure due to iTunes!
> 
> Rolled out properly on a subscription basis, with proper hardware
> support for it, e.g. wireless music players, I dont see the big issue.
> 
> Paying a measly £9 per month to play any music you like from any artist
> at any time seems good value to me.
> 
> Zune is supported by Sonos. If Sonos can do it, why cant the SB?

iTunes is not solely to blame.  The biggest reason DRM failed with
purchased music was lack of any industry standard for incorporating it
and using it.
Each seller had their own formula for DRM so purchased music from
company A would not play on hardware or software from company Z.
This "locked" users into limiting their legally purchased music to only
be usable on a single companies hardware or software (or whomever that
company deemed worthy of their licensing).  Logitech (SlimDevices at
the time) asked numerous times to license Apple's iTunes DRM, Apple
refused to even discuss it with them.

I always use the analogy of DVD's.  Imagine if you had to purchase a
separate DVD player for each movie studio / content provider in
existence.
As outrageously silly as this sounds, that was essentially the business
model of DRM'd music.  ;)

DRM for subscription services is fine and already exists on SB services

Re: Want to buy SB, but need to know if Zune fix will work

toby10;592017 Wrote: 
> iTunes is not solely to blame.  The biggest reason DRM failed with
> purchased music was lack of any industry standard for incorporating it
> and using it.
> Each seller had their own formula for DRM so purchased music from
> company A would not play on hardware or software from company Z.
> This "locked" users into limiting their legally purchased music to only
> be usable on a single companies hardware or software (or whomever that
> company deemed worthy of their licensing).  
> Logitech (SlimDevices at the time) asked numerous times to license
> Apple's iTunes DRM, Apple refused to even discuss it with them.
> 
> I always use the analogy of DVD's.  Imagine if you had to purchase a
> separate DVD player for each movie studio / content provider in
> existence.
> As outrageously silly as this sounds, that was essentially the business
> model of DRM'd music.  ;)
> 
> DRM for subscription services is fine and already exists on SB services
> like Rhapsody and Napster.  You will have to contact Logitech marketing
> to ask why there exists no Zune support, I dunno.  I think the Zune
> model is actually downloading the songs onto your computer or device,
> not "streamed" like Rhapsody and Napster.  Whether this plays a roll
> into SB not supporting Zune I have no clue.

Indeed, I agree with all of what you have said.

I have a Windows PC, an XBOX and a Windows 7 Phone, and all I want to
do is play music in my bedroom/kitchen/living room that has been

Re: Want to buy SB, but need to know if Zune fix will work

toby10;592017 Wrote: 
> I think the Zune model is actually downloading the songs onto your
> computer or device, not "streamed" like Rhapsody and Napster.
Is that really how the Zune library works? I guess it would make sense
if they are _only_ interested in supporting portable players, but for
home use it sounds like a complete PITA compared to streaming via
Rhapsody or Napster.

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