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Re: Fwd: Digest Number 4719

Wow; I wrote this 6 weeks ago and it just now arrived...

James
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>         Fri Mar 13, 2015 6:27 am (PDT) . Posted by:
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>       "JAMES HARRISON" jamesl33511
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> Thanks, Greg; I knew some of you would know how to do it...
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> > Thu Mar 12, 2015 8:09 am (PDT) . Posted by:
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> > This link gives you the search for Andras Szalay's posts:
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New GR-1 Website



FYI - A new GR-1 website just went live this morning. It's a one-stop resource for GR-1 Info, DIY's, Reference Materials, Accessories and Links. Stop by for a visit.


http://llamamusic.com/gr1/gr-1.html




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The E-Ba



I love this stuff; e-drums, electric standup bass, monk chants and processed guitar. Even better, the guitarist has reworked a G707 … check out the FB build pages under the YouTube link.

So nice to hear something fresh in the world of guitar synthing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGaeXaByzkM&feature=youtu.be

https://www.facebook.com/The.E.BA

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Fishman Triple Play



I connect it all up, its all working test sounds just one small problem.


I either get 'receiver not found' or 'receiver in use' I have spent more time trying to get it to work than playing it.


I have spent hours and hours days on the rare times it decides to work it fun to play but next time its just hours and hours.


I run every way possible hubs etc  it knows its there are when you unplug it it can not be found !


Found this but what use is it and whats it mean ?



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Why is TriplePlay displaying the message “Receiver in use”?
TriplePlay uses 2 MIDI input ports. When only one is available, the app displays the message "Receiver in use".






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Re: Comparison of triple play and axon by the inventor



Hi

Ref "Tracking of the Triple Play – just like the Axon, or any other guitar synth – is optimal in MONO mode"

Sorry if this a silly question ! Is it that much more 'optimal' ?

The reason I ask is because I like 'stereo' effects ' as I am a bedroom player.

It can get complicated very quickly for a dyslexic please keep it simple.

In any event kind regards db

On Sun, Mar 22, 2015 at 9:11 AM, 'Andras Szalay' a.szalay <at> t-online.hu [midiguitar] <midiguitar <at> yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

>> With PB set to off it works better in any mode

Tracking of the Triple Play – just like the Axon, or any other guitar synth – is optimal in MONO mode, pitch bend on, set to 12…24 semitones. Even if you do not play intentional bends on the guitar, technically the pitch bend is tracking hammer ons, pull-offs, and unnoticeably correcting tracking errors. The possibility to turn off pitch bend has two purposes:

1. If the synth cannot be set to match the pitch bend setting of the controller, then pitch bend with a wrong setting is worse than no pitch bend at all.

2. If you play a patch that sounds strange with any kind of pitch change of the sound (typically a piano or an organ), then the performance can be more realistic with PB off.

Andras Szalay

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Subject: Re: [midiguitar] Comparison of triple play and axon by the inventor

FTP works in mono and poly.

If you made patches in FTP they will trigger programs in motif so not every time but only once during programing. Of course if you looking for sound it is a PITA until you switch to poly mode.

With PB set to off it works better in any mode Glitches are always a part of MIDI guitar but with FTP it is a different story then in other guitar to MIDI converters.

Iconnect MIDI4+ has USB port on rear panel so if you have no so deep rack it isn’t a problem but with motif XS it is. So you can connect USB hub to MIDI4+ and put it on your desk :)

Why hub? because you can use it not only for FTP but for example for Blofeld, nano control etc.

Andrzej

On 21 mar 2015, at 14:17, pje <at> hvc.rr.com [midiguitar] <midiguitar <at> yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Andrzej-

What is PFActor?:

you can use PFactor and its additional pedals/expression

It seems Fishman does everything in mono mode. I know this improves tracking by eliminating "cross-talk" between strings. But its a pain in the butt to set up each time.

How do you set up your Motif xs for use with FTP? Do you use mono mode?

Is tracking reasonably free of glitches for you in poly mode, if PB is off?

[ have an older Motif ES, so I will try your setup and give feedback]

2.If you put USB hub in front of your rack then plugging/unplugging FTP is piece of cake

I dont understand. You must have iConnect 1 or 4 or Kenton, etc.. to connect to Motif. How does a USB hub figure in?

Thanks!

Peter]

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Peter,

Generally YES. I use it with XS rack so no problem. In MIDI4+ you can merge, filter, change, route MIDI between 5 DIN, USB, Ethernet.

If RTP MIDI is ok for triggering sound then all will work good. I never used MIDI over LAN for triggering synths only for program changes / CC but… I use it over WiFi.

If you put USB hub in front of your rack then plugging/unplugging FTP is piece of cake. Remember you can use PFactor and its additional pedals/expression as Hold/Sustain pedal for FTP too :)

First gen. of iConnect is more similar to Kenton but t works as a bridge for iOS devices and computers. No 5 DIN, no Ethernet.

BTW: I had Yamaha G50 and FTP is far far better. Like Roland GR55 was better. It was slower but more accurate esp. on internal PCM sounds. FTP is fast as Axon was and (of course if you program it and your synth correctly — PB ranges, velocity dynamic, sensitivity) it is far beyond.

Andrzej

On 18 mar 2015, at 05:26, pje <at> ... [midiguitar] <midiguitar <at> yahoogroups.com> wrote:

Will the Connect4 merge the incoming midi data from the eventide with the FTP data and send to the Motif ?

Studio: I use MidiOverLan. My computers are connected by ethernet wire.

I see iConnect4 has an ethernet port. Would I be able to play my Motif, and simultaneously get a signal sent to my studio computers?

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FTP floor controller info



There is some (preliminary) info about the new floor controller here:

Fishman Tripleplay Foot Controller

 


AFAIK availability is not yet officially announced, but should be out real soon...

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pje@hvc.rr.com [midiguitar] | 17 Mar 13:49 2015
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RE: Re: Comparison of triple play and axon by the inventor



Thank you Andras for the clarification.
I must try this now.

Question for someone: Does the guitar audio appear on a Kenton or i Connect box?
Or is that why folks are waiting for the Fishman foot pedal?
thanks!
Peter


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Comparison of triple play and axon by the inventor



Thank you for the links. I have combed through numerous posts from Andras and the only thing I could find that is comparative of the axon and the triple play is a statement from him saying that the two are not software or hardware related.  
That's intriguing. 
And contradicts what the Fishman person told me at the Nam booth which was that it was the same technology.
Has anyone seen any other posts from Andras comparing the axon with the triple play?
Or is there a consensus? If this is a different technology, what could it be?
Thanks!
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Fwd: Digest Number 4719




Thanks James –
Of course no diss honor meant by the misspelling.
I imagine I am not the first. :-)

I have tried looking back at the midi guitar entries, but I could not find anything from Andras. only his general midi guitar  FAQs on his webpage.

Perhaps you could forward the location of his entries...?

I tried the triple play at the NAMM show 2014, and it felt similar to my AX 100, and the AX 50. Of course, this was at the show where chaos reigns! 
And, perhaps it has been improved since the initial offering. Any and all comparative enlightenment would be welcome!
Greetings to all in the group.
Peter Einhorn
Creative Tunings Inc


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Re: honor Andrus Salzy by "JAMES HARRISON" jamesl33511
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Re: honor Andrus Salzy by "Ken Coughlin" kensql

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Tue Mar 10, 2015 9:39 am (PDT) . Posted by:

"JAMES HARRISON" jamesl33511

Peter, you might try a search on this group for Andras [I think you have
his name misspelled????]. He has laid our the differences between the
older technology and the FTP in some detail. In short: There's quite an
improvement.

Regards,
James
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honor Andrus Salzy



It is an honor to have Andrus Salzy on this group. 
Would you care to comment about the evolution of the pitch and timing tracking from the axon ax 100 (I will omit NG 66 and 77, both of which I owned, and were evolutionary steps)  ,to the present with  the triple play. 
Has tracking evolved? And if so , how?
I thank you for your contribution to the musical community!
Best regards,
Peter


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RE: Re:



I’d like to see a computer with 76 usb ports. J

 

Thanks,
Ken

 “I’m neither LEFT nor RIGHT, I’m in the MIDI.”

 

 

 

From: midiguitar <at> yahoogroups.com [mailto:midiguitar <at> yahoogroups.com]
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Concerning your second question, if you ask whether two Triple Play systems can coexist in one place (tuned to different radio channels) then the answer is yes. Up to 76 systems will theoretically coexist if you pair then one by one, after each other.

Andras Szalay

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Hi folks..

Does anyone know whether two x triple play systems can run on one laptop or computer at once??

Can the usb dongle-receiver things receive on two different assignable radio channels? (maybe with two iterations of the software)

Does anyone also know how much the floor board costs? (or will cost)

richard

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