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russma8 | 1 Sep 2004 01:46
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Anyone have a Kurz PC2x environment?

....well...do you....?
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Tim Fogliani | 1 Sep 2004 02:12

Re: Anyone have a Kurz PC2x environment?


Nope, mine is just the plain PC2x, couldn't afford the environment model.
Sorry,
Tim
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Yash | 1 Sep 2004 10:46
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Re: Kurzweil on Amazon.com


KurzList <at> yahoogroups.com wrote:
>    From: "Paulo Mouat" <kurzlist <at> dmethods.com>
> Subject: RE: Re:Kurzweil on Amazon.com
> All this talk about how Kurzes are the ultimate instruments is starting to
> get boring (and I've been on this list only a little over a year).

What I find boring is actually wild claims which are misleading from 
people who know little of the synth's architecture time and time again. 
And I've been on K2000 mailing list for about ten years.

>Saying Reaktor would never
> be able to recreate the K2600 architecture is just nonsensical (you like a
> K2600 patch?  Grab the algorithm topology and recreate it in Reaktor --
> simple).

Not as easy as you'd like to make it appear. One single instance of one 
layer's algorithm configuration may be easy, and even then, would take a 
lot of time as ther are all the modulation and other parameters to 
build. But then, you forget that I can much more easily use my Kurz to 
have several interesting variations by just varying one or more DSP 
functions within the algorithm, or radically by changing the algorithm 
itself.

And go further:
- you also need to be able to choose your 'DSP' function within your 
Reaktor ensemble. That amounts to a harrowing complexity wiring and 
display (each DSP function type has an associated parameter page)

- you also need to be able to make one patch out of several layers.
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Yash | 1 Sep 2004 10:19
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Re: Future of Kurzweil? Re: Status of Kurzweil?


>    From: "Marsiglio, Clifford C" <ccmarsig <at> IUPUI.EDU>
> Subject: RE: Future of Kurzweil?  Re: Status of Kurzweil?
> SIR has as many parameters as one decides to put on it.  It's a form of
> synthesis as much as anything else.  
> SIR, is used as my example as it is a top of the line reverb type that
> was originally only in very high end dedicated boxes and it's a form of
> reverb that can't be duplicated by a shipping Kurzweil at this moment.

Another claim which just shows you misunderstand the concept of 
convolution. The parameters in SIR just affect how the convolution is 
applied: it doesn't make another realistic reverb. Trying to say that 
just because there are parameters to tweak make it more than whatever 
reverbs there are in the KDFX and consorts is ludicrous, and is 
analogous to saying that because a sampler can wire in a filter after a 
multi-sample of an analog subtractive synth, then the sampler is doing 
analog subtractive synthesis. You'd better read up on convolution.

> A more reasonable example would be something such as Emagic's Platnium
> Verb...it is more in line with one on one feature specific with the top
> of the line KDFX verbs.  I can run a few dozen of these at the same time
> in 96khz 24bit mode.

Here again, you confuse convolving reverbs and the more traditional 
multi-effects. They are not the same.

> The Uranius module at one point was their top of the line full synthesis
> heavy and yet very clean synth that shipped with Reaktor -- though I
> think it started off as a User Ensemble that was aquired by the company.
> I use to use this for benchmarking because it had all the qualities I
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Roi de la plage | 1 Sep 2004 13:48
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Re: k2000 internal hd competability question

http://www.k2users.org/k_newhdd.htm

 --- Gus Mercanti <mercanti <at> cbl.umces.edu> a écrit : 
> 
> I'd recommend you contact JD at scsiforsamplers.com.
>  Wealth of
> knowledge and a great guy to deal with....Gus
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 30 Aug 2004, gizeh12 wrote:
> 
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I would like to buy an internal hd for my k2000. I
> want to connect the
> > hd to my pc so i can dump samples from my pc into
> the k2000/
> >
> > Can anyone tell me wich harddiscs are suitable for
> that???
> > wich are competible with the k2000???
> >
> >
> > thanx poeple
> >
> >
> >
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Marsiglio, Clifford C | 1 Sep 2004 15:02
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RE: Yash Attack!!!

Yash,

You should consider political office.  You seem to be aiming for running
for one, and your accusations seem as baseless in reality as any of the
advertising as I've seen here in the states for political office.  

I don't recall bashing Kurzweil at all.  Quite a few folks in Kurzweil
both past and present call or email me to tell me that they think I'm
entirely correct about these situations.  I disagree...I'm probably
wrong about some of what I say.  But at least I have the courage to say
something needs changed.  Anyone that thinks things are perfect the way
they are are either idiots, or has something to gain from users
remaining in the dark.  I don't think you are an idiot...

Me, I want to make music.  I want the practicality of things.  I want a
synth that I can program and others here can program.  I want the
control of a Kurz without having to be a rocket scientist.  I don't want
a rompler that I pick a preset and go.  I need the complexity of the
Kurz, but going through 100 screen where a direct link to something that
needs to happen on screen 97 is back on screen 16.  

Instead of attacking others to prove your worth, start doing something
for the community.  Write some tutorials, put out some free patches.
You constantly complain that Sonik started charging for patches we gave
away for free for several years.  Yet, I've heard maybe one patch from
you in my existance on the list.

Put out the patches.  Show us what you can do with the synth.  More
importantly, show us what *WE* can do with the synth.  I could care less
what you can do if we don't understand it.  Work with your opponents as
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Michael Houston | 1 Sep 2004 17:00

Re: Future of Kurzweil? Status of Kurzweil? Kurzweil on Amazon.com

Hey, kids,

Remember to play nice...

Later,
Michael Houston

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Karsten J. Chikuri | 1 Sep 2004 18:43
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RE: Kurzweil on Amazon.com


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karsten J. Chikuri [mailto:chikurk <at> mwt.net] 
> Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 11:37 AM
> To: yash <at> vfemail.net; KurzList <at> yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [KL] Kurzweil on Amazon.com
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> 
> > > Both soft and hard synths have their advantages and
> > drawbacks... but
> > > they are nowhere near as interchangeable as you make it out to be.
> > 
> > >    From: "Karsten J. Chikuri" <chikurk <at> mwt.net> Yes - the
> > newer synths
> > > have more of "today's sound"... But, that's not really because of 
> > > better synth design/architecture. (there may be a few select 
> > > exceptions - such as the Hartmann Neuron, but that's a 
> totally new 
> > > style of synthesis.) More than likely - the "today's 
> sound" appeal 
> > > comes from a fresh set of samples in the synth that create
> > that "today's sound".
> > 
> 
> 
> I am glad you agree with what I said in the above quote - 
> but, since I would never call myself an 'expert' regarding 
> synth programming (whether on the Kurzweil, or other synth 
> platforms)... I would kindly warn you that my comments may
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Karsten J. Chikuri | 1 Sep 2004 18:37
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RE: Kurzweil on Amazon.com


> > Both soft and hard synths have their advantages and 
> drawbacks... but 
> > they are nowhere near as interchangeable as you make it out to be.
> 
> >    From: "Karsten J. Chikuri" <chikurk <at> mwt.net> Yes - the 
> newer synths 
> > have more of "today's sound"... But, that's not really because of 
> > better synth design/architecture. (there may be a few select 
> > exceptions - such as the Hartmann Neuron, but that's a totally new 
> > style of synthesis.) More than likely - the "today's sound" appeal 
> > comes from a fresh set of samples in the synth that create 
> that "today's sound".
> 

I am glad you agree with what I said in the above quote - but, since I would
never call myself an 'expert' regarding synth programming (whether on the
Kurzweil, or other synth platforms)... I would kindly warn you that my
comments may not be your best "ammunition" for what seems to be an impending
flame-war. (I hope this thread doesn't get to that point)

Although I am getting much better at, and more comfortable with, programming
sounds on the Kurzweil - my needs are much different than most, if not all,
on this emailing list. My programming efforts have been mostly for use with
the Akai EWI wind synth/controller. 

Also, my choice of musical styles is a big factor as well... Although I have
a lot of respect for people that work in the Techno and other dance related
music fields - that is not my musical focus, I write and perform mostly
contemporary mainstream jazz / jazz fusion. As a result, what I find to be
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DavidBrown99 | 1 Sep 2004 18:15
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modest contest proposal

Why not have a voice creation contest?
Group 1 - produce a great sounding voice using the Kurzweil Hardware.
Group 2 - duplicate the voice using alternative software of any type, using
the general concept of the Kurzweil algorithm?
Group 3 - create a great sounding voice using any alternative soft synth.

Post it.  (talking about it won't help the entry)

Judges could be this forum?

May the best man win.

(now let's argue about it.... sigh.)

david

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