Peter T. Chattaway | 1 Sep 2007 09:00
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Randall Hansen: The Canadian War Museum's great mistake

http://communities.canada.com/nationalpost/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2007/08/30/randall-hansen-the-canadian-war-museum-s-great-mistake.aspx

The Canadian War Museum in Ottawa has decided to “adjust” its plaque about
Bomber Command during the Second World War in response to veterans’
complaints. This is a great mistake.

The offending plaque says the following: “The value and morality of the
strategic bomber offensive against Germany remains bitterly contested.
Bomber Command’s aim was to crush civilian morale and force Germany to
surrender by destroying its cities and industrial installations. Although
Bomber Command and American attacks left 600,000 Germans dead and more
than five million homeless, the raids resulted in only small reductions of
German war production until late in the war.”

If we are to believe Canada’s National Council of Veterans Associations,
these sentences are offensive and inaccurate. They are offensive because
they accuse veterans of committing “war crimes” or “war atrocities” and
they are inaccurate because, to quote Cliff Chadderton, the Chairman of
the Council, they “[go] against all of the books that have been written on
Bomber Command.”

Either Mr. Chadderton has not read those books, or he has read them very
badly.

The statements on the plaque are supported by the official British,
American, and Canadian histories, by all serious studies of Bomber
Command, including those sympathetic to its accomplishments, and by
Canada’s most esteemed historians — Desmond Morton, Margaret MacMillan,
Jack Granatstein. Arthur Harris, the Commander-in-Chief of Bomber Command,
defined Bomber Command’s goal as: “[T]he destruction of German cities; the
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Michael D. Findlay | 1 Sep 2007 16:14
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Re: Randall Hansen: The Canadian War Museum's great mistake

Not to belabour this, but it’s a good thing Canada didn't have to drop the
bomb.  Imagine the politically correct, guilt ridden, national prostration
we'd be seeing now.

Mike F.
(is that the correct British/Canadian spelling of belabour, or does "be" on
the front remove the "u")

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http://communities.canada.com/nationalpost/blogs/fullcomment/archive/2007/08
/30/randall-hansen-the-canadian-war-museum-s-great-mistake.aspx

The Canadian War Museum in Ottawa has decided to adjust its plaque about
Bomber Command during the Second World War in response to veterans
complaints. This is a great mistake.

The offending plaque says the following: The value and morality of the
strategic bomber offensive against Germany remains bitterly contested.
Bomber Commands aim was to crush civilian morale and force Germany to
surrender by destroying its cities and industrial installations. Although
Bomber Command and American attacks left 600,000 Germans dead and more than
five million homeless, the raids resulted in only small reductions of German
war production until late in the war.

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Michael D. Findlay | 1 Sep 2007 16:11
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Re: Randall Hansen: The Canadian War Museum's great mistake

Why would you create a plaque at all regarding something about which you
believed its value and morality is bitterly contested?  Why commemorate such
a thing?  The plaque certainly seems to be at odds with the spirit/sentiment
of this page:

http://www.warmuseum.ca/cwm/gallery3_e.html

Putting such a plaque up in the first place strikes me as a national
embarrassment, I know my father, as a near life long Canadian, would be
embarrassed if not ticked off by that plaque.  If their panties are in such
a wad about the moral and strategic value of the bombings take the plaque
down all together. 

Why not leave at this:

http://www.civilization.ca/cwm/chrono/1931bomber_command_e.html

And even that is a bit of revisionist hand wringing, (the last line). 

Mike F.

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Bruce Geerdes | 1 Sep 2007 16:26
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Viacom's "bass-ackwards" screw-up: issues takedown for video it "pirated"

http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070830-viacom-caught-in-copyright-infringement-loop.html

Viacom's "bass-ackwards" screw-up: issues takedown for video it "pirated"
By Jacqui Cheng | Published: August 30, 2007 - 07:44PM CT

Viacom's copyright battle with YouTube took an interesting turn this
week, as the company has found itself in the embarrassing position of
having highlighted the possibly that it committed a little
"for-profit" copyright infringement of its own (some would call it
"piracy"). Viacom effectively pointed the finger at itself when the
company tried to get a Web Junk 2.0 clip removed from YouTube, only to
end up exposing the fact that Viacom's VH1 unit had not obtained
permission to use the source video that is featured in the clip. Dizzy
yet?

North Carolina political candidate Christopher Knight made a somewhat
ridiculous commercial as part of his campaign to become a member of
the Rockingham County Board of Education. The commercial featured
Knight waving light sabers, paying homage to Star Wars (complete with
a Death Star) in a bid for election. He ran the commercials on a local
television station at the same time that he uploaded the commercial to
YouTube.

The clip eventually got the attention of VH1 producers, who decided to
feature it on Web Junk 2.0—a TV show that highlights "funny" videos
that were found on the web. Knight says that VH1 never contacted him
regarding their intent to use his not-for-profit commercial for their
for-profit TV show, but he nevertheless remained amused by the
development at the time. 15 minutes of fame, and all that.

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Michael D. Findlay | 1 Sep 2007 20:19
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The Grey Lady's grey matter is suspect


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/30/opinion/30thu3.html?ex=1346212800&en=5771d
1b2efbc93eb&ei=5124&partner=permalink&exprod=permalink

Its in the last paragraph.  

It is amazing/laughable/a little scary that the NYT has any credibility left
at all.  

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Peter T. Chattaway | 1 Sep 2007 21:56
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Re: Viacom's "bass-ackwards" screw-up: issues takedown for video it "pirated"

> http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070830-viacom-caught-in-copyright-infringement-loop.html
>
> Viacom's "bass-ackwards" screw-up: issues takedown for video it "pirated"
> By Jacqui Cheng | Published: August 30, 2007 - 07:44PM CT
>
> Viacom's copyright battle with YouTube took an interesting turn this
> week, as the company has found itself in the embarrassing position of
> having highlighted the possibly that it committed a little "for-profit"
> copyright infringement of its own (some would call it "piracy"). Viacom
> effectively pointed the finger at itself when the company tried to get a
> Web Junk 2.0 clip removed from YouTube, only to end up exposing the fact
> that Viacom's VH1 unit had not obtained permission to use the source
> video that is featured in the clip. Dizzy yet?
>
> North Carolina political candidate Christopher Knight . . .

Wow, just the other day I discovered Knight's blog because someone had
linked to my own blog from there ... and he mentioned this!  Kind of funny
to see it getting picked up on the news since then.

> To make matters worse, it turns out that every time Web Junk 2.0 uses
> a clip that came from YouTube without permission, it is violating both
> YouTube's terms of service and the original creator's copyright. What
> is a hypocritical media company to do?

Oh, beautiful.  So basically, every time Viacom comes to YouTube and
bitches and complains about a Web Junk 2.0 clip being posted on YouTube,
YouTube should flip Viacom the bird.  Too bad they didn't, here.

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Peter T. Chattaway | 3 Sep 2007 01:20
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the top ten movies in north america

http://movies.yahoo.com/boxoffice/latest/rank.html

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) -- Following are ticket sales for the top 10 movies
at the North American box office for the August 31-September 2 weekend,
according to studio estimates issued Sunday. Final data will be issued
Monday.

      1 (+) Halloween ....................... $26.5 million   26.5 million
      2 (1) Superbad ........................ $12.2 million   89.0 million
[***] 3 (+) Balls of Fury ................... $11.6 million   14.6 million
[***] 4 (2) The Bourne Ultimatum ............ $10.2 million  199.6 million
[***] 5 (3) Rush Hour 3 ...................... $8.6 million  120.4 million
[***] 6 (4) Mr. Bean's Holiday ............... $5.9 million   18.9 million
[***] 7 (6) The Nanny Diaries ................ $5.1 million   15.3 million
[***] 8 (+) Death Sentence ................... $4.2 million    4.2 million
      9 (5) WAR .............................. $3.6 million   16.4 million
[***] 10(8) Stardust ......................... $3.0 million   31.0 million

NOTE: Last weekend's position in parenthesis. + indicates a new release.
Figures are rounded.

- - -

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/news/va/20070902/118876689100.html

A re-imagining of the classic slasher movie "Halloween" broke the record
for a new release during the U.S. Labor Day holiday weekend, according to
studio estimates issued on Sunday.

The movie, directed by rock star-turned-filmmaker Rob Zombie, earned about
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Lucas John | 3 Sep 2007 07:15
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Marshfield, Wi.

I'm flying to Marshfield,Wi. on Thursday. I've never been anywhere near there before.
Anyone on the list in the area or know of any points of interests to share?


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Peter T. Chattaway | 3 Sep 2007 08:30
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Re: Why Can't My Child use the Pool for a Bathroom?

Pardon my bringing up this old thread, but ...

On Thu, 2 Aug 2007, Lucas John wrote:

> http://politicalmavens.com/index.php/2007/08/01/why-cant-my-child-use-the-pool-for-a-bathroom/

> It seems that this mom took her one year-old son to the pool in her
> condo complex to go swimming. He was wearing a diaper which is a
> pretty good indicator that, a) he was not potty-trained and, b) he was
> probably going to do his “business” at some point in the community
> pool. When one of the board members of the condo association realized
> what I have just outlined, he stepped in and forbade mom from
> proceeding any further and made the child get out of the pool. Almost
> as quickly, the condo board then passed a rule which they SHOULD have
> enacted years earlier stating no children under the age of three years
> are allowed in the pool for HEALTH and SAFETY reasons! D’oh.

Just wondering, but do we know for a fact that the diaper the kid was
wearing was not a "swimmer"?

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Lucas John | 3 Sep 2007 09:21
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Re: Why Can't My Child use the Pool for a Bathroom?

Just wondering, but do we know for a fact that the diaper the kid was
wearing was not a "swimmer"?
==============
Yeah, that was discussed a little.  I'm clueless on "swimmers" as my kid were in the cloth diaper with rubber pants era.


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