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Peter T. Chattaway | 1 Aug 2006 08:38
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Wal-Mart snubs French coupon

http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/news/westcoastnews/story.html?id=4e5d59ed-d837-4789-a535-ab12b5af357f

Store apologizes after refusing customer's French-language coupon

William Boei, Vancouver Sun
Published: Friday, July 28, 2006

NEW WESTMINSTER -- Wal-Mart has apologized to her, but Caroline Gauthier
is still offended that when she presented the store with two nearly
identical coupons for discounts on diapers, the cashier accepted the one
in English and refused the one in French.

"My feelings are hurt," the New Westminster resident said Thursday. "I'm a
francophone and I had two coupons, and the French one was refused. So I
will still be pissed, you know?"

Gauthier went shopping at the New Westminster Wal-Mart store on Wednesday.
Her son, Paul-Emile, is two and a half months old and he goes through a
lot of things fast, including diapers.

She spent $230 on "all kinds of stuff," including two packs of Pampers
diapers. She presented the cashier with several coupons, two of them for
$2 discounts on Pampers.

One was in English, from a booklet of coupons that came in the mail. The
other was in French, clipped from a French-language parenting magazine
that a friend in Quebec sent her.

"At the end when I gave my coupons, she took the English ones but refused
to take the French one," Gauthier said.
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Peter T. Chattaway | 1 Aug 2006 08:40
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Divided they blog

http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/columnists/story.html?id=723a3774-5217-40fc-a6af-085eff7a688c

Adam Radwanski, National Post
Published: Monday, July 31, 2006

Last week, a contributor to a popular Canadian weblog posted a blistering
attack on Islam. Under the heading "Islam Must Be Stopped," someone called
"Right Girl" weighed in on "the devil that they call Allah," labelled
Islam "a death cult" and called for the entire religion to be banned in
Canada.

If Right Girl had stood on a street corner calling for Islam to be banned,
passers-by would either have shouted her down or dismissed her as a kook.
Any newspaper that published her views would have been deluged with
disgusted letters to the editor. But in this forum, the comments that
followed her post lauded her for taking such a brave stand -- and, in some
cases, went even further in their attacks on Muslims.

The blog in question was The Shotgun, found on the Western Standard's Web
site. But the issue wasn't the conservative magazine, which of course
can't be held responsible for the messages that wing nuts post on its
blog. The issue was the broader blog medium that's having a nasty effect
on public discourse.

The blogosphere is good for music and trading notes on pop culture. It can
be great for sports commentary. It's a way to pass time for those
interested in reading the mundane details of strangers' personal lives.

But what it is absolutely lousy for is political debate -- mostly because
what it encourages is not debate at all, so much as support groups in
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Lucas John | 1 Aug 2006 14:33
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Re: Wal-Mart snubs French coupon

The lady should've just asked to speak with the store
manager in the first place.

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Paul Christian Glenn | 1 Aug 2006 15:08

Re: Wal-Mart snubs French coupon

> The lady should've just asked to speak with the store
> manager in the first place.

And she should find better things to do with her life than spend 2 days pissed off at a Wal-Mart cashier.
Notably, she wasn't "miffed" enough to refuse the $20 gift card. They've compensated her 10x worth the
value of the coupon, but it's just not enough for horrifying injustice she was forced to endure. <rolls eyes>
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Lucas John | 1 Aug 2006 16:43
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Re: Wal-Mart snubs French coupon

And she should find better things to do with her life
than spend 2 days 
pissed off at a Wal-Mart cashier.
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The headline should've read, "Wal-Mart CASHIER snubs
French cupon."
Some entry level employee screwed up. 

Anybody on the list made to watch the Farrel's Ice
Cream Parlor PR primer "Give Them the Pickle"?

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Lucas John | 1 Aug 2006 16:57
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Re: Official Presbyterian Publisher Issues 9/11 Conspiracy Book

"Not
outrage against me, but outrage against what has been
done in the name 
of
democracy and the name of a Christian nation."
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No, outrage against you.  Outrage=Notoriety

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nezmik | 1 Aug 2006 18:54

Re: Wal-Mart snubs French coupon

>> The lady should've just asked to speak with the store
>> manager in the first place.

>And she should find better things to do with her life than spend 2 days pissed
off at a Wal-Mart cashier. Notably, she wasn't "miffed" enough to refuse the $20
gift card. They've compensated her 10x worth the value of the coupon, but it's
>just not enough for horrifying injustice she was forced to endure. <rolls eyes>
 
Where's the fun in that? 
 
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Peter T. Chattaway | 1 Aug 2006 18:51
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Re: mel gibson arrested for d.u.i. (nasty rumours abound)

http://filmchatblog.blogspot.com/2006/08/mel-gibson-asks-jewish-community-for.html

Mel Gibson has finally confirmed that the "despicable" comments he made,
while he was being arrested for alleged drunk driving, were in fact
anti-Semitic. And now he's asking for help. Here's his latest statement,
issued today, via the Associated Press:

    There is no excuse, nor should there be any tolerance, for anyone who
thinks or expresses any kind of anti-Semitic remark. I want to apologize
specifically to everyone in the Jewish community for the vitriolic and
harmful words that I said to a law enforcement officer the night I was
arrested on a DUI charge.

    I am a public person, and when I say something, either articulated and
thought out, or blurted out in a moment of insanity, my words carry weight
in the public arena. As a result, I must assume personal responsibility
for my words and apologize directly to those who have been hurt and
offended by those words.

    The tenets of what I profess to believe necessitate that I exercise
charity and tolerance as a way of life. Every human being is God's child,
and if I wish to honor my God I have to honor his children. But please
know from my heart that I am not an anti-Semite. I am not a bigot. Hatred
of any kind goes against my faith.

    I'm not just asking for forgiveness. I would like to take it one step
further, and meet with leaders in the Jewish community, with whom I can
have a one on one discussion to discern the appropriate path for healing.

    I have begun an ongoing program of recovery and what I am now
realizing is that I cannot do it alone. I am in the process of
understanding where those vicious words came from during that drunken
display, and I am asking the Jewish community, whom I have personally
offended, to help me on my journey through recovery. Again, I am reaching
out to the Jewish community for its help. I know there will be many in
that community who will want nothing to do with me, and that would be
understandable. But I pray that that door is not forever closed.

    This is not about a film. Nor is it about artistic license. This is
about real life and recognizing the consequences hurtful words can have.
Its about existing in harmony in a world that seems to have gone mad.

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   claim remembrance, on account of their scars. -- Chris Marker, La Jetee

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Karl | 1 Aug 2006 20:10
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Re: mel gibson arrested for d.u.i. (nasty rumours abound)

Interesting.

I give ther mahn credit, he is not afraid to stand up and admit he was a 
jack ass.
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From: "Peter T. Chattaway" <petert@...>
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Subject: Re: [DADL-OT] mel gibson arrested for d.u.i. (nasty rumours abound)

> http://filmchatblog.blogspot.com/2006/08/mel-gibson-asks-jewish-community-for.html
>
> Mel Gibson has finally confirmed that the "despicable" comments he made,
> while he was being arrested for alleged drunk driving, were in fact
> anti-Semitic. And now he's asking for help. Here's his latest statement,
> issued today, via the Associated Press:
>
>    There is no excuse, nor should there be any tolerance, for anyone who
> thinks or expresses any kind of anti-Semitic remark. I want to apologize
> specifically to everyone in the Jewish community for the vitriolic and
> harmful words that I said to a law enforcement officer the night I was
> arrested on a DUI charge.
>
>    I am a public person, and when I say something, either articulated and
> thought out, or blurted out in a moment of insanity, my words carry weight
> in the public arena. As a result, I must assume personal responsibility
> for my words and apologize directly to those who have been hurt and
> offended by those words.
>
>    The tenets of what I profess to believe necessitate that I exercise
> charity and tolerance as a way of life. Every human being is God's child,
> and if I wish to honor my God I have to honor his children. But please
> know from my heart that I am not an anti-Semite. I am not a bigot. Hatred
> of any kind goes against my faith.
>
>    I'm not just asking for forgiveness. I would like to take it one step
> further, and meet with leaders in the Jewish community, with whom I can
> have a one on one discussion to discern the appropriate path for healing.
>
>    I have begun an ongoing program of recovery and what I am now
> realizing is that I cannot do it alone. I am in the process of
> understanding where those vicious words came from during that drunken
> display, and I am asking the Jewish community, whom I have personally
> offended, to help me on my journey through recovery. Again, I am reaching
> out to the Jewish community for its help. I know there will be many in
> that community who will want nothing to do with me, and that would be
> understandable. But I pray that that door is not forever closed.
>
>    This is not about a film. Nor is it about artistic license. This is
> about real life and recognizing the consequences hurtful words can have.
> Its about existing in harmony in a world that seems to have gone mad.
>
> --- Peter T. Chattaway ------------- http://filmchatblog.blogspot.com/ ---
> Nothing tells memories from ordinary moments; only afterwards do they
>   claim remembrance, on account of their scars. -- Chris Marker, La Jetee
>
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harold smith | 1 Aug 2006 22:23
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Eric Elnes, The Phoenix Affirmations: A New Vision

For the Future of Christianity (Jossey-Bass, 2006).

Saw this book at my local independent bookstore and picked it up for review. 
  Haven't read it yet, but here are the 12 one-sentence affirmations that 
the book proposes, each of which is then followed by a three paragraph 
"unpacking" and a chapter of discussion and exposition:

#1:  Walking fully in the path of Jesus without denying the legitimacy of 
other paths that God may provide for humanity.

#2:  Listening for God's Word, which comes through daily prayer and 
meditation, studying the ancient testimonies which we call Scripture, and 
attending to God's present activity in the world

#3:  Celebrating the God whose Spirit pervades and whose glory is reflected 
in all of God's creation, including the earth and its ecosystems, the sacred 
and the secular, the Christian and the non-Christian, the human and the 
non-human.

#4:  Expressing our love in worship that is sincere, vibrant, and artful as 
it is scriptural.

#5:  Engaging people authentically, as Jesus did, treating all as creations 
made in God's very image, regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, 
age, physical or mental ability, or economic class.

#6:  Standing, as Jesus does, with the outcast and the oppressed, the 
denigrated and afflicted, seeking peace and justice with or without the 
support of others.

#7:  Preserving religious freedom and the church's ability to speak 
prophetically to government by resisting the commingling of church and 
state.

#8:  Walking humbly with God, acknowledging our own shortcoings while 
honestly seeking to understand and call forth the best in others, including 
those who consider us their enemies.

#9:  Basing our lives on the faith the in Christ all things are made new and 
that we, and all people, are loved beyond our wildest imagination - for 
eternity.

#10:  Claiming the sacredness of both our minds and our hearts and 
recognizing that faith and science, doubt and belief serve the pursuit of 
truth.

#11:  Caring for our bodies and insisting on taking time to enjoy the 
benefits of prayer, reflection, worship, and recreation in addition to work.

#12:  Acting on the faith that we are born with a meaning and purpose, a 
vocation and ministry that serve to strengthen and extend God's realm of 
love.

Others may find these affirmations, and by extension, the book itself to be 
of interest.  For what it is worth, Elnes holds a Ph.D. from Princeton 
Theological Seminary and is Senior Pastor of Scottsdale Congregational 
United Church of Christ (AZ).

Hal

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