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lbigbilbo | 3 May 2011 06:37
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a "new 4AD"

Hi everyone. Just a little about myself and what I am looking for here.
first about myself, I live in Boston Mass, USA but don't tell that to anyone or I'll deny it. The first 4AD
group I really liked was "Bauhaus" and one of their side projects "Tones On Tail" though I never liked "Love
and Rockets". I first heard "Cocteau Twins" somewhere around 84-85 (we colonists are a little slow on the
uptake) but they didn't get a lot of play in this hillbilly country. The First song I remember by them was
"Pearly Dewdrops' Drops" and I think there were a couple of others between 85 & 90. But at that point in my
life I did not buy recorded music mainly because I couldn't afford it. At that time I also discovered
another group I liked, "Dead Can Dance".  When I bought my first computer around 1998-2000 my kids turned me
on to P2P sites. While I was looking for songs to d
 ownload I remembered having liked "Cocteau Twins and "Dead Can Dance" back in the 80's but i couldn't
remember the titles of the songs liked so I just started downloading everything I could find by "C T" & "D C
D". I was pleasantly surprised that each and every song I downloaded by these two groups became my new
favorite song, till the next one came along. I was kicking myself for not having looked into these two
groups earlier. then I found out about 4AD and Ivo Watts-Russel and his pet project "This Mortal Coil". I
was very despondent to find out that he sold the Label and retired. All I could think was that the world
needed a new Ivo someone with his insights and his commitment to presenting good music to the world. Just
recently, I think I may have stumbled across a new Label that ha
 s got me really stoked it is Projekt Records. they have or have had some really good groups such as "Autumn's
Grey Solice" and Love Spirals Downward" and a few more i can't remember off the top of my head. (It kinda
sucks being old and retired now I barely remember what I had for breakfast. I tell all my friends and family
that if it wasn't for acid flash backs i wouldn't have any memory at all. 

Well that was longer than i planned and I probably bored half of you to death and the other half are saying "We
need stricter standards on who we let in here". If any one does have any questions for me or any suggestions,
like "Drop dead old man" please let me know.

Thanks Bill,

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geopart | 3 May 2011 07:00
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Re: a "new 4AD"


Hi Bill and welcome aboard.

If you had been listening to a show hosted by Oedipus on WBCN back then you would have discovered a lot of great
indy music. 
For the record, Cocteau Twins played at the Paradise club circa 1985-1986 and it was sold out.  Also, Tones on
Tail played at the Channel circa 1983-1984 to a disappointing (numerically) crowd.  Love & Rockets played
at the Spit and Modern English played at the Paradise.  Where were you?  Oh, and I am almost sure that Bauhaus
played somewhere in Boston but I missed it.

--- In 4ad-l <at> yahoogroups.com, "lbigbilbo" <lbigbilbo <at> ...> wrote:
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> Hi everyone. Just a little about myself and what I am looking for here.
> first about myself, I live in Boston Mass, USA but don't tell that to anyone or I'll deny it. The first 4AD
group I really liked was "Bauhaus" and one of their side projects "Tones On Tail" though I never liked "Love
and Rockets". I first heard "Cocteau Twins" somewhere around 84-85 (we colonists are a little slow on the
uptake) but they didn't get a lot of play in this hillbilly country. The First song I remember by them was
"Pearly Dewdrops' Drops" and I think there were a couple of others between 85 & 90. But at that point in my
life I did not buy recorded music mainly because I couldn't afford it. At that time I also discovered
another group I liked, "Dead Can Dance".  When I bought my first computer around 1998-2000 my kids turned me
on to P2P sites. While I was looking for songs to
  download I remembered having liked "Cocteau Twins and "Dead Can Dance" back in the 80's but i couldn't
remember the titles of the songs liked so I just started downloading everything I could find by "C T" & "D C
D". I was pleasantly surprised that each and every song I downloaded by these two groups became my new
favorite song, till the next one came along. I was kicking myself for not having looked into these two
groups earlier. then I found out about 4AD and Ivo Watts-Russel and his pet project "This Mortal Coil". I
was very despondent to find out that he sold the Label and retired. All I could think was that the world
needed a new Ivo someone with his insights and his commitment to presenting good music to the world. Just
recently, I think I may have stumbled across a new Label that 
 has got me really stoked it is Projekt Records. they have or have had some really good groups such as
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lbigbilbo | 3 May 2011 17:00
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Glad to be here.

Thank you Geo,

Thanks for the welcome wagon, but to answer your questions, I did not listen to Oedipus because he was on BCN
and everyone else on that station sucked. I used to listen to BCN when it first started in 1968 but the
station went straight downhill around the mid 70's they just replayed and rehashed the same old songs and
the same old groups for the next 15 or so years. For a long time I couldn't find anything on the local radio
scene until one day somewhere in the early 80's I was just going through the dial of my radio at work in
Cambridge trying to find anything worth listening to when I came across a station called WMBR formally
WTBS (MIT radio) what caught my attention was the lyrics to the song that was being played. I don't know who
the singer was but it appeared to be a girl group and 
 the lyric that caught my attention went something like this "You said you truly loved me but all you really
wanted to do was to feel me up". My head did a double-take and I started to listen to the show, it was called
"The Late Risers Club". BTW they just had their 25th anniversary recently. The trouble was the show was
only on from around 8 or 9 AM till about noon. This was where I first heard Bauhaus. I few months later I was
sitting on the sea-wall in Winthrop where I was living at the time and i picked up a station called WLYN
broadcasting from Lynn and they were playing music similar to what I had been listening to on MIT's station
it was early "New Wave" and "Post Punk". I remember the most popular song at the time was "Rock The Casbah" by
"The Clash". About 6 months or so latter t
 hey announce one night that they would be off the air for a while due to some upcoming changes. Two weeks
latter they resumed broadcasting calling the station WFNX, they had been purchased by "The Phoenix".
There slogan in the early days was "Rock The Boat Radio". I soon found that some of the DJ's were ex WMBR
jocks. It was during this time that I discovered many of the groups that would be my favorites for a long
time. Number one was "The Cure" followed closely by "Depeche Mode", "XTC", "New Order", "The Psychedelic
Furs" etc. Alas even "FNX" began to go down hill with the emergence of "Grunge". I really hated "Nirvana"
and especially "Pearl Jam". That music made my teeth itch. Today I only listen to MIT and BC's radio
stations WMBR and WZBC respectively.

The reason i never caught any of those groups you mentioned playing live in the Boston area were really
threefold. First I couldn't afford them, second I was working what seemed like 22 hours a day,(I had two
jobs at the time, 40 Hrs a week on my regular job and about 48 Hrs a week driving a cab)and the last reason was i
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Richard Anvil Peat | 4 May 2011 17:28
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Modern English live

Hi guys,
Very interesting you guys talking about radio stations and mentioning Modern English. I current manage
the bands fan forum and help with their website (www.modernenglish.me). I'm sure you are all aware the
original line up (minus the drummer) reformed last year. One thing I am trying to do is collect together any
concert recordings. I know one of the Boston radio stations (WXRF or whatever can never remember which
letters) broadcast a gig in 1990 (one track ended up as a B side) but despite trying to contact the station
and even the engineer who recorded it no-one knows where the tapes are. Do any of you have any Modern English
concert recordings?
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geopart | 4 May 2011 17:38
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Re: Modern English live

It must have been 1984 when I saw them but I am not aware of any live recordings.  The station you refer to might
be WFNX.

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> Hi guys,
> Very interesting you guys talking about radio stations and mentioning Modern English. I current manage
the bands fan forum and help with their website (www.modernenglish.me). I'm sure you are all aware the
original line up (minus the drummer) reformed last year. One thing I am trying to do is collect together any
concert recordings. I know one of the Boston radio stations (WXRF or whatever can never remember which
letters) broadcast a gig in 1990 (one track ended up as a B side) but despite trying to contact the station
and even the engineer who recorded it no-one knows where the tapes are. Do any of you have any Modern English
concert recordings?
> Richard
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Bill | 7 May 2011 17:02
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Re: Modern English live

Sorry, I can't help you there. But if they did a live broadcasat in 1990 it had to be either WFNX or maybe WBCN.
Wbcn has changed format now and is a sports radio station.

--- In 4ad-l <at> yahoogroups.com, Richard Anvil Peat <richard.anvil <at> ...> wrote:
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> Hi guys,
> Very interesting you guys talking about radio stations and mentioning Modern English. I current manage
the bands fan forum and help with their website (www.modernenglish.me). I'm sure you are all aware the
original line up (minus the drummer) reformed last year. One thing I am trying to do is collect together any
concert recordings. I know one of the Boston radio stations (WXRF or whatever can never remember which
letters) broadcast a gig in 1990 (one track ended up as a B side) but despite trying to contact the station
and even the engineer who recorded it no-one knows where the tapes are. Do any of you have any Modern English
concert recordings?
> Richard
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Bill | 7 May 2011 17:06
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projekt music

Is anyone else interested in or know anything about this record label? Any info would be much appreciated.

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Richard Anvil Peat | 15 May 2011 17:02
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Help in finding UK Gig venues for Modern English


Hello,
If you've had a look at the Modern English website (www.modernenglish.me) you will have seen the band have 4
gigs set up for next month in Colchester, Tunbridge Wells, Wimbledon and Paris. They would like to add more
dates and venues. If you can suggest any venues in the UK or Europe or forward this email onto anyone you know
in the UK /Europe who are interested in 4AD/indie/80's bands please email me at forum <at> modernenglish.me
They are aware they are not as well know in the UK and Europe than the US so a venue size of about 200 would be
best (no stadiums and no pubs please). 
Thanks,
Richard
Apologies to those of you in the US but plans are already being made for a US tour in September.
  		 	   		  

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