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Re: Template bug

Hello,

David Maus wrote:
> 
> At Sun, 10 Jul 2011 16:03:52 +0100,
> Simon Brown wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > When writing mail I use templates to setup the To and CC based on the
> > parent folder and this works well. Sometimes however I have to change
> > to a different template. C-c C-j changes the template to which ever I
> > select and all looks well.
> >
> > However when I submit the mail, it reverts to the original
> > template. What am I getting wrong?
> 
> I think I fixed this problem in CVS trunk:
> 
> ,----
> | 2011-01-09  David Maus  <dmaus <at> ictsoc.de>
> |
> | * wl-template.el (wl-template-select): Reset draft config exec
> | flag when selecting template.
> |
> | Reset `wl-draft-config-exec-flag' so template specific configuration
> | is applied when sending the message.  Not resetting causes WL to use
> | configuration of previous template that matched the draft buffer
> `----
I have the same problem. I noted rules considering the to: header

Re: Template bug

Hi,

> > > When writing mail I use templates to setup the To and CC based on the
> > > parent folder and this works well. Sometimes however I have to change
> > > to a different template. C-c C-j changes the template to which ever I
> > > select and all looks well.
> > >
> > > However when I submit the mail, it reverts to the original
> > > template. What am I getting wrong?
> > 
> > I think I fixed this problem in CVS trunk:
> > 
> > ,----
> > | 2011-01-09  David Maus  <dmaus <at> ictsoc.de>
> > |
> > | * wl-template.el (wl-template-select): Reset draft config exec
> > | flag when selecting template.
(snip)
> I have the same problem.

I think actual commit does not make WL to avoid modification of a
draft message before sending.

Cf. https://github.com/wanderlust/wanderlust/commit/c14cbb86da450737613fb3e88f71f515167d19ee#diff-1

>  <at>  <at>  -97,6 +97,7  <at>  <at>  Entering WL-Template mode calls the value of `wl-template-mode-hook'."
>    (interactive "P")
>    (unless wl-template-alist
>      (error "Please set `wl-template-alist'"))
> +  (setq wl-draft-config-exec-flag t)

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wanderlust and mew - which might be best choice for me?

Hello:

No, it's not my intention to start a religious debate. I am, however, 
having a difficult time finding much of anything about these two mua 
modes on the net.  I have used various gui clients in the past but they 
seem bent on ever increasing bloat.  Nor am I a fan of webmail. Mutt 
would be my default "go to" TUI based mua but figured I'd investigate 
mail in emacs. I need to manage multiple IMAP accounts with lots of 
folders. I store my mail server side so I can access from multiple 
machines - typically workstations with 24x7 connections. Hence offline 
imap stores, pop, maildir, usenet, etc. are pretty much not even on my 
radar. I like my mail in ascii but also need to be able to view 
html'ized nonsense and open various attachments.  My background is as a 
sysadmin rather than programmer and I don't want to have to become an 
e/lisp expert just to get my mua configured. I've also only recently 
switched to emacs so there's still a big learning curve ahead.

Mew appears to be more actively maintained and has better documentation 
but it also appears that Wanderlust may be preferred of the two. Perhaps 
because of MH support and allegedly superior IMAP support.  Such 
references are pretty dated, however, so I don't know how relevant to 
current times. Mew and Wanderlust otherwise appear to be pretty similar 
and I'd appreciate it if someone would compare and contrast their 
differences and similarities in the context of my use case.

TIA-- Ken

Re: wanderlust and mew - which might be best choice for me?

to be honest, pretty nose to nose.  but if you are newish to emacs,
wellllll .....

one is maintained by a really meticulous hacker, though he has recently
gone over to the weird side (haskell) :)

the other by a linux-philosophy mob with git and all that cruft i have
no desire to learn, and a bit of oversight from tokyo.  but i can pull a
cvs every year or two and survive.

but if you are newish to emacs, wellllll .....

i chose wanderlust because a long-term co-worker, who is a far better
elisp hacker than i, runs it and i can whine.  this was a couple of
months before i moved to tokyo and to the desk next to the author of
mew.  and now i work with the author of mutt too.  but i have not even
gotten him to move to emacs for his own use, so not much hope of mutt in
emacs.

but if you are newish to emacs, wellllll.  i guess you can kinda treat
mew or wl as a black box and just do a few setqs.  and this list does
get some tasty copy and pastes.

randy

Re: wanderlust and mew - which might be best choice for me?

At Wed, 09 May 2012 13:56:02 -0600,
Ken Gunderson wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> 
> No, it's not my intention to start a religious debate. I am, however, 
> having a difficult time finding much of anything about these two mua 
> modes on the net.  I have used various gui clients in the past but they 
> seem bent on ever increasing bloat.  Nor am I a fan of webmail. Mutt 
> would be my default "go to" TUI based mua but figured I'd investigate 
> mail in emacs. I need to manage multiple IMAP accounts with lots of 
> folders. I store my mail server side so I can access from multiple 
> machines - typically workstations with 24x7 connections. Hence offline 
> imap stores, pop, maildir, usenet, etc. are pretty much not even on my 
> radar. I like my mail in ascii but also need to be able to view 
> html'ized nonsense and open various attachments.  My background is as a 
> sysadmin rather than programmer and I don't want to have to become an 
> e/lisp expert just to get my mua configured. I've also only recently 
> switched to emacs so there's still a big learning curve ahead.
> 
> Mew appears to be more actively maintained and has better documentation 
> but it also appears that Wanderlust may be preferred of the two. Perhaps 
> because of MH support and allegedly superior IMAP support.  Such 
> references are pretty dated, however, so I don't know how relevant to 
> current times. Mew and Wanderlust otherwise appear to be pretty similar 
> and I'd appreciate it if someone would compare and contrast their 
> differences and similarities in the context of my use case.

Hi Ken,

Re: wanderlust and mew - which might be best choice for me?

At Wed, 09 May 2012 21:54:13 -0700,
Erik Hetzner wrote:
> 
> At Wed, 09 May 2012 13:56:02 -0600,
> Ken Gunderson wrote:
> > 
> > Hello:
> > 
> > No, it's not my intention to start a religious debate. I am, however, 
> > having a difficult time finding much of anything about these two mua 
> > modes on the net.  I have used various gui clients in the past but they 
> > seem bent on ever increasing bloat.  Nor am I a fan of webmail. Mutt 
> > would be my default "go to" TUI based mua but figured I'd investigate 
> > mail in emacs. I need to manage multiple IMAP accounts with lots of 
> > folders. I store my mail server side so I can access from multiple 
> > machines - typically workstations with 24x7 connections. Hence offline 
> > imap stores, pop, maildir, usenet, etc. are pretty much not even on my 
> > radar. I like my mail in ascii but also need to be able to view 
> > html'ized nonsense and open various attachments.  My background is as a 
> > sysadmin rather than programmer and I don't want to have to become an 
> > e/lisp expert just to get my mua configured. I've also only recently 
> > switched to emacs so there's still a big learning curve ahead.
> > 
> > Mew appears to be more actively maintained and has better documentation 
> > but it also appears that Wanderlust may be preferred of the two. Perhaps 
> > because of MH support and allegedly superior IMAP support.  Such 
> > references are pretty dated, however, so I don't know how relevant to 
> > current times. Mew and Wanderlust otherwise appear to be pretty similar 
> > and I'd appreciate it if someone would compare and contrast their 
> > differences and similarities in the context of my use case.

Re: wanderlust and mew - which might be best choice for me?

At Thu, 10 May 2012 00:36:26 -0600,
Ken Gunderson wrote:
> Hi Erik:
> 
> Good to see that life does still exist in Wanderlust :) 
> 
> I decided that Wanderlust looked to be the more featureful of the
> two and decided to take it for a test drive. Took more hours than
> I'd want to admit just to access my one of my accounts. The docs
> were less than clear regarding .folders file.  At least for
> me. Found some example files on the 'net and as you may surmise from
> the headers I at least now have minimal functionality working.
> Looks worthy of further exploration. Need to figure out how to wrap
> at 72 chars though, so pardon the long line length.
> 
> Thanks for your perspective-- Ken

Hi Ken,

I don’t think it is unusual to take a few hours just to get started
with WL, unfortunately.

My advice is to never edit your ~/.folders file by hand. For some
reason many tutorials seem to suggest doing this. I don’t know
why. All the functionality is available in the WL folder manager, and
then you don’t have to worry about the syntax of the ~/.folders file.

M-q is emacs for wrap paragraph.

best, Erik

Re: wanderlust and mew - which might be best choice for me?