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Re: Login form - iOS keyboard hinting

On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:35:54 -0800
Nick Sayer <nsayer <at> kfu.com> wrote:

> It probably would break a strict validation (4.0 Transitional, at
> least, doesn't list them). But every browser I've tried has either
> recognized the new types or fallen back to type='text' for unknown
> ones. 

(Why follow up off-list?)

Tomas — what Nick mentions above was my point. If it breaks HTML4
validation but nothing else, then I wouldn't mind adding it.

However, Paul mentioned in the discussion in thread "Changing STABLE
DOCTYPE?" that a <!DOCTYPE html> DTD can be added to the new scheme
easily. Is that still the case? Then we would also achieve HTML4
validation.

Alexandros

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Paul Lesniewski | 1 Feb 12:27

Re: Login form - iOS keyboard hinting

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Alexandros Vellis <avel <at> noc.uoa.gr> wrote:
> On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:35:54 -0800
> Nick Sayer <nsayer <at> kfu.com> wrote:
>
>> It probably would break a strict validation (4.0 Transitional, at
>> least, doesn't list them). But every browser I've tried has either
>> recognized the new types or fallen back to type='text' for unknown
>> ones.
>
> (Why follow up off-list?)
>
> Tomas — what Nick mentions above was my point. If it breaks HTML4
> validation but nothing else, then I wouldn't mind adding it.

I think everything else in SM validates, or at least that's the idea.
Breaking validation intentionally is contrary to the project
goals/spirit.  At best, it should be a non-default configuration.

> However, Paul mentioned in the discussion in thread "Changing STABLE
> DOCTYPE?" that a <!DOCTYPE html> DTD can be added to the new scheme
> easily. Is that still the case? Then we would also achieve HTML4
> validation.

Yes, it's easier, but still requires code changes.  IMHO, if some
client uses initial-caps on a text input, the client vendor needs to
be shot.  That's the most ridiculous thing I've heard.  (But you can
still allow logins in this case by making sure to configure SM to
convert logins to lower case (insert caveats about IMAP servers with
case-sensitive accounts))

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Paul Lesniewski | 1 Feb 14:25

Re: Login form - iOS keyboard hinting

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:27 AM, Paul Lesniewski <paul <at> squirrelmail.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 3:12 AM, Alexandros Vellis <avel <at> noc.uoa.gr> wrote:
>> On Tue, 31 Jan 2012 08:35:54 -0800
>> Nick Sayer <nsayer <at> kfu.com> wrote:
>>
>>> It probably would break a strict validation (4.0 Transitional, at
>>> least, doesn't list them). But every browser I've tried has either
>>> recognized the new types or fallen back to type='text' for unknown
>>> ones.
>>
>> (Why follow up off-list?)
>>
>> Tomas — what Nick mentions above was my point. If it breaks HTML4
>> validation but nothing else, then I wouldn't mind adding it.
>
> I think everything else in SM validates, or at least that's the idea.
> Breaking validation intentionally is contrary to the project
> goals/spirit.  At best, it should be a non-default configuration.
>
>> However, Paul mentioned in the discussion in thread "Changing STABLE
>> DOCTYPE?" that a <!DOCTYPE html> DTD can be added to the new scheme
>> easily. Is that still the case? Then we would also achieve HTML4
>> validation.
>
> Yes, it's easier, but still requires code changes.  IMHO, if some

You can also simply use version 1.5.2 and make your own template set
that uses whatever kind of doctype and input tags that you want.

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gmardon | 3 Feb 23:51

Spam Filters

Which of the spam filters listed here is best to use:

http://squirrelmail.org/plugins_category.php?category_id=3

Thanks,

G

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gmardon | 3 Feb 23:58

Spam Filters

I should have said that I am using SquirrelMail 1.4.22 and that I am on an
iMac running OS 10.5.8 and another running 10.7.2

Thanks,

G

> Which of the spam filters listed here is best to use:
>
> http://squirrelmail.org/plugins_category.php?category_id=3
>
> Thanks,
>
> G
>

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Paul Lesniewski | 4 Feb 01:06

Re: Spam Filters

>> Which of the spam filters listed here is best to use:
>>
>> http://squirrelmail.org/plugins_category.php?category_id=3
>
> I should have said that I am using SquirrelMail 1.4.22 and that I am on an
> iMac running OS 10.5.8 and another running 10.7.2

Impossible to say unless you specify if you are running server-side
filtering software and if so, what kind.  You should make these kinds
of inquiries on the plugins mailing list.  Remember not to top-post
when you reply.

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gmardon | 4 Feb 01:26

Spam Filters

Hi Paul,

Thank you for your quick reply.  Unfortunately what you wrote is all Greek
to me.  I do not know what top-post means (hope I am not doing that here).

I do not think I am running server-side filtering software but I am not
sure.  Part of the time I am using Sq mail I am at home and connect to the
internet via AT&T U-verse.  The rest of the time I am at work at Baylor
College of Medicine (BCM) and am connecting to the internet through their
data lines.  I do not know if either AT&T or BCM is running server-side
filtering software.

Does this help?

I am getting so much viagra and other related spam that it is really
annoying and would love to be able to set up a few filters to get rid of
at least some of it.

Thank you,

G

>>> Which of the spam filters listed here is best to use:
>>>
>>> http://squirrelmail.org/plugins_category.php?category_id=3
>>
>> I should have said that I am using SquirrelMail 1.4.22 and that I am on
>> an
>> iMac running OS 10.5.8 and another running 10.7.2
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Paul Lesniewski | 4 Feb 01:35

Re: Spam Filters

On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:26 PM,  <gmardon <at> worldwidegenomics.com> wrote:
> Hi Paul,
>
> Thank you for your quick reply.  Unfortunately what you wrote is all Greek
> to me.  I do not know what top-post means (hope I am not doing that here).

You are.  The words are self-descriptive, but when you subscribed to
this mailing list you received a message that told you you needed to
read the posting guidelines.

> I do not think I am running server-side filtering software but I am not
> sure.  Part of the time I am using Sq mail I am at home and connect to the
> internet via AT&T U-verse.  The rest of the time I am at work at Baylor
> College of Medicine (BCM) and am connecting to the internet through their
> data lines.  I do not know if either AT&T or BCM is running server-side
> filtering software.

SquirrelMail is not your service provider.  You'll need to ask your
service provider for support.  Please see:

http://squirrelmail.org/support/enduser.php

> I am getting so much viagra and other related spam that it is really
> annoying and would love to be able to set up a few filters to get rid of
> at least some of it.

Your service provider should do a better job of spam filtering.

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gmardon | 4 Feb 15:53

Spam Filters

Dear Paul,

I cannot imagine a more rude, unhelpful, and arrogant pair of responses. 
Perhaps there is some major trauma in your life and this is affecting the
way you interact with people but it is not really directed at them. 
Otherwise:

Take a good look in a mirror.

Hope you can turn it around for your sake.

G

> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:26 PM,  <gmardon <at> worldwidegenomics.com> wrote:
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> Thank you for your quick reply.  Unfortunately what you wrote is all
>> Greek
>> to me.  I do not know what top-post means (hope I am not doing that
>> here).
>
> You are.  The words are self-descriptive, but when you subscribed to
> this mailing list you received a message that told you you needed to
> read the posting guidelines.
>
>> I do not think I am running server-side filtering software but I am not
>> sure.  Part of the time I am using Sq mail I am at home and connect to
>> the
>> internet via AT&T U-verse.  The rest of the time I am at work at Baylor
>> College of Medicine (BCM) and am connecting to the internet through

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Richard Roy | 4 Feb 16:12

Re: Spam Filters

You sent your support question to a development mailing list. I found your continued misuse when informed to be rude and arrogant.

To chastise Paul who has spent countless hours helping the community is beyond words. If we wasted our time with folks like you development would stop and good folks would quit.

An apology is in order.

gmardon <at> worldwidegenomics.com wrote:

Dear Paul,

I cannot imagine a more rude, unhelpful, and arrogant pair of responses.
Perhaps there is some major trauma in your life and this is affecting the
way you interact with people but it is not really directed at them.
Otherwise:

Take a good look in a mirror.

Hope you can turn it around for your sake.

G

> On Fri, Feb 3, 2012 at 4:26 PM, <gmardon <at> worldwidegenomics.com> wrote:
>> Hi Paul,
>>
>> Thank you for your quick reply. Unfortunately what you wrote is all
>> Greek
>> to me. I do not know what top-post means (hope I am not doing that
>> h ere).
>
> You are. The words are self-descriptive, but when you subscribed to
> this mailing list you received a message that told you you needed to
> read the posting guidelines.
>
>> I do not think I am running server-side filtering software but I am not
>> sure. Part of the time I am using Sq mail I am at home and connect to
>> the
>> internet via AT&T U-verse. The rest of the time I am at work at Baylor
>> College of Medicine (BCM) and am connecting to the internet through
>> their
>> data lines. I do not know if either AT&T or BCM is running server-side
>> filtering software.
>
> SquirrelMail is not your service provider. You'll need to ask your
> service provider for support. Please see:
>
> http://squirrelmail.org/support/enduser.php
>
>> I am getting so much viagra and other related spam that it is really
>> annoying and would love to be able to set up a few filters to get rid of
>> at least some of it.
>
> Your service provider should do a better job of spam filtering.
>
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