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Jonathan Angliss | 1 Dec 2003 05:26
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Re: Developer Meeting

Hello Stefan,
On Sunday, November 30, 2003, Stefan Sels wrote...

> As idea I would suggest to hookup (like our plugins) it to another
> meeting. I will attend Defcon 12[1] and Interzone III[2] and could
> organize some meeting time/space there.

While I don't disagree, a conference would be excellent, and I'd love
to attend, but funding is often an issue when it comes to things like
this. It's been discussed before, and we were hoping to piggy-back on
other conferences (as you've suggested) so that we can get some word
in there too. I believe one of the big PHP ones was what was looked
into, but that has come and gone. Another factor is time... I really
wish I had more of it, so if anybody has any lurking around they don't
mind sharing, I'd love to borrow it ;)

It'd be great if we could get some corporate sponsorship from
somewhere too, that'd certainly help a bit, even if it amounts to
knocking a little off of the hotel prices ;)

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Stefan Sels | 1 Dec 2003 09:06

Re: Developer Meeting

<quote who="Jonathan Angliss">

> While I don't disagree, a conference would be excellent, and I'd love
> to attend, but funding is often an issue when it comes to things like
> this. It's been discussed before, and we were hoping to piggy-back on
> other conferences (as you've suggested) so that we can get some word
> in there too. I believe one of the big PHP ones was what was looked
> into, but that has come and gone. Another factor is time... I really
> wish I had more of it, so if anybody has any lurking around they don't
> mind sharing, I'd love to borrow it ;)

Sure. Time and Money is a Problem. I remember a guy who started about
selling t-shirts and starting talking about something like a fondation.
(for squirrelmail!) But this is not easy to do. There are legel rules for
stuff like this.

Maybe we could even join a another Foundation ? (Like the one PHP is on).
I am not sure if that is something that we want. I know the Projekt for a
long time (though I did not contribute that much code) and there a always
people coming and going. Anybody rembering the gift voucher for Luke ;) ?

I stated this last year already. If I get my company to pay me to work on
Squirrelmail, that would be nice. I am working for an eMail company now so
maybe they switch from their commercial product to SM one day ....

> It'd be great if we could get some corporate sponsorship from
> somewhere too, that'd certainly help a bit, even if it amounts to
> knocking a little off of the hotel prices ;)

Yep. We might speek with the Zend people. I met them at the German PHP
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Rick Castello | 1 Dec 2003 09:22
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Re: Developer Meeting

Stefan Sels said:
> <quote who="Jonathan Angliss">
>
>> While I don't disagree, a conference would be excellent, and I'd love
>> to attend, but funding is often an issue when it comes to things like
>> this. It's been discussed before, and we were hoping to piggy-back on
>> other conferences (as you've suggested) so that we can get some word
>> in there too. I believe one of the big PHP ones was what was looked
>> into, but that has come and gone. Another factor is time... I really
>> wish I had more of it, so if anybody has any lurking around they don't
>> mind sharing, I'd love to borrow it ;)
>
> Sure. Time and Money is a Problem. I remember a guy who started about
> selling t-shirts and starting talking about something like a fondation.
> (for squirrelmail!) But this is not easy to do. There are legel rules for
> stuff like this.

     We *are* looking into getting legal status for SquirrelMail, so
     we can accept donations, etc.  There will be more to announce here
     soon, I promise.

>> It'd be great if we could get some corporate sponsorship from
>> somewhere too, that'd certainly help a bit, even if it amounts to
>> knocking a little off of the hotel prices ;)
>
> Yep. We might speek with the Zend people. I met them at the German PHP
> Conference and they told me that Squirrelmail is pusing PHP itself because
> people want a webmail solution and get SM recommended.

     We did speak with Zend.  They wanted to support us, but wanted us
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Jeroen van Disseldorp | 1 Dec 2003 14:31
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Re: Bug in folder subscription?

Fri, 28 Nov 2003 "Jonathan Angliss" <jon <at> squirrelmail.org> wrote:
>> Subscribing to folders with SM fails however. Squirrelmail displays the
>> correct foldernames in the "subscribe" listbox, but after subscribing
>> to them, the names are messed up. Upon examination of the
>> .subscriptions file I notice that it is completely messed up too.
>
> Messed up in what way?  Can you give an example line?  What version of
> SM are you using? What about PHP? What webserver?

How silly of me to forget: SM 1.4.2, Apache 2.0.48/PHP 4.3.3 on Debian
unstable (up-to-date).

> When you look at the subscription folder, view the source of the page,
> scroll down to where the subscript section is, you should see a few
> options like this:
>
>  <option value="folder"> folder </option>
>
> Is the one in the "" messed up? Does your folder name contain special
> characters (such as " + etc).

No, the names in between "" are correct. The only special characters
I use are "-" and spaces.

Here's some output of the way in which things are messed up:

$ cat ~/Maildir/.subscriptions
xs4all
rked
ux show
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Jonathan Angliss | 1 Dec 2003 15:44
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Re: Re: Bug in folder subscription?

Hello Jeroen,
On Monday, December 01, 2003, Jeroen van Disseldorp wrote...

> Here's some output of the way in which things are messed up:

> $ cat ~/Maildir/.subscriptions
> xs4all
> rked
> ux show
> in.Extremadura
> urgh
> t

> I've also included a screenshot of how this looks in Squirrelmail. The
> shot was taken after I had selected all on the right side and clicked
> subscribe.

> Do you think this is caused by Squirrelmail or IMAP?

Aha!... By any chance, the folders aren't missing the first 4 letters
are they? For some reason, the names seem truncated, even though I
don't know what they are... it's just a stab in the dark. If they are
missing letters at the begging, it's your PHP installation. Upgrade to
the latest version... there is a bug id on PHP (I can search my
archives if you need it) which involves the POST variables being cut
off.

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Jonathan Angliss | 1 Dec 2003 16:14
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Re: Re: Bug in folder subscription?

Hello Jeroen,
On Monday, December 01, 2003, Jeroen van Disseldorp wrote...

>> Aha!... By any chance, the folders aren't missing the first 4
>> letters are they? [..] If they are missing letters at the begging,
>> it's your PHP installation. Upgrade to the latest version... there
>> is a bug id on PHP (I can search my archives if you need it) which
>> involves the POST variables being cut off.

> Yes they are cut off, but not necessarily only the first 4
> characters. For some folders a whole lot more is cut off.

> If you could send the PHP bug number, I can check whether the bug
> description matches my situation.

  http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=19404

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Jeroen van Disseldorp | 1 Dec 2003 16:05
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Re: Re: Bug in folder subscription?

Hi Jonathan,

> Aha!... By any chance, the folders aren't missing the first 4 letters
> are they? For some reason, the names seem truncated, even though I
> don't know what they are... it's just a stab in the dark. If they are
> missing letters at the begging, it's your PHP installation. Upgrade to
> the latest version... there is a bug id on PHP (I can search my
> archives if you need it) which involves the POST variables being cut
> off.

Yes they are cut off, but not necessarily only the first 4 characters.
For some folders a whole lot more is cut off.

If you could send the PHP bug number, I can check whether the bug
description matches my situation.

Thanks, Jeroen

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Simon White | 2 Dec 2003 14:55
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DSN (MDN) RFC compliance suggestions, offer of help

Hello

I have an installed Squirrelmail running, version 1.4.2 - latest stable.

I've had a few errors back from people with MDN set, and the reason for
that is the code to generate these messages is not RFC compliant. I've
analysed the sources and would be happy to give a hand in this, but I
don't want to tread on toes, so here's my analysis.

The envelope sender is created, in the case of SMTP delivery, thus:

--- Deliver_SMTP.class.php ---
/* Ok, who is sending the message? */
   fputs($stream, 'MAIL FROM:<'.$from->mailbox.' <at> '.$from->host.">\r\n");

Therefore, any empty string passed to the $from->mailbox and $from->host
hash will in fact generate the command

MAIL FROM:< <at> >

Deliver_SMTP.class.php always adds the  <at> , which stops us from being able
to set an empty envelope sender (bear with me, I will explain why we
want to do this in a moment).

based on v1.4.2 :

Empty strings are passed if the user has no profile, and since the code in
read_body.php makes the $from->mailbox equal to "" in this case:-

--- read_body.php ---
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Jonathan Angliss | 2 Dec 2003 16:26
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Re: DSN (MDN) RFC compliance suggestions, offer of help

Hello Simon,
On Tuesday, December 02, 2003, Simon White wrote...

> Hello

> I have an installed Squirrelmail running, version 1.4.2 - latest stable.

> I've had a few errors back from people with MDN set, and the reason for
> that is the code to generate these messages is not RFC compliant. I've
> analysed the sources and would be happy to give a hand in this, but I
> don't want to tread on toes, so here's my analysis.

> The envelope sender is created, in the case of SMTP delivery, thus:

> --- Deliver_SMTP.class.php ---
> /* Ok, who is sending the message? */
>    fputs($stream, 'MAIL
> FROM:<'.$from->mailbox.' <at> '.$from->host.">\r\n");

> Therefore, any empty string passed to the $from->mailbox and $from->host
> hash will in fact generate the command

> MAIL FROM:< <at> >

  I believe this has already been fixed in CVS after I had a field day
  because I thought it was already ported back from devel. Marc/Alex
  can you confirm?

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Simon White | 2 Dec 2003 16:33
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Re: DSN (MDN) RFC compliance suggestions, offer of help

02-Dec-03 at 09:26, Jonathan Angliss (jon <at> squirrelmail.org) wrote :
> > MAIL FROM:< <at> >
> 
>   I believe this has already been fixed in CVS after I had a field day
>   because I thought it was already ported back from devel. Marc/Alex
>   can you confirm?

Sorry my email was too long.

Main point : in MDN, MAIL FROM should always be the null sender "<>" and
never anything else. Skip the bit about read_body.php and concentrate on
the points I made about Deliver_SMTP - I checked after my email and this
also applies to Deliver_Sendmail or whatever the class for calling the
sendmail binary directly is called. Don't know much about IMAP delivery,
never encountered that before, but I'm sure the principle is the same.

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