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qpopper-request | 1 Jun 2003 09:02
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Qpopper Monthly Help File

         M O N T H L Y   Q P O P P E R   L I S T   H E L P

This is a routine monthly reminder of how to unsubscribe or use other
list commands.

First off, when you subscribe to a mailing list, you almost always get
a first message from the list admin telling you about the mailing list,
and explaining how to unsubscribe.  It is always a good idea to keep
these messages, since you never know when you will need to unsubscribe.
This is particularly useful when you change email addresses, because it
is difficult to unsubscribe from a list after you have a different
mailing address.

Every message sent by the list includes headers that you can just click
on to subscribe, unsubscribe, get help, or see the archives (if the
list has archives).

If you have tried this method, and the mailing list software won't let
you unsubscribe, it is probably because your address has changed.  In 
this case, please send a message to 
<mailto:listmaster <at> lists.pensive.org> stating which list (or lists) 
you want to unsubscribe from, and what you think your previous address
was.  There is a human (me) who will then try to take care of your 
request, often within a few days.

The list server in use (called AutoShare), offers several options which
you can set for yourself.  These options affect how the list sends you
messages.

The available options are:
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Grigorios G. Papazoglou | 5 Jun 2003 11:28
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poppassd fails

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Hi. I have poppassd installed. It used to work fine,
but now it complains like this:

user <at> srv: /usr/local/sbin # telnet localhost 106
Trying ::1...
telnet: connect to address ::1: Connection refused
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
200 srv poppassd v4.0.5 hello, who are you?
user me
200 your password please.
pass mypassword
200 your new password please.
newpass mynewpassword
500 Unable to change password
Connection closed by foreign host.

Here are the permissions (I didn't change them yet to see
if this was the cause of the problem):

-rwsr-xr-x   1 root     root      188280 Jun  5 12:10 poppassd
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McGraw, Robert P. | 5 Jun 2003 21:56
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Proble with qpopper and virtual IP addresses

I am having a problem running qpopper on a virtual host name.

1. Running qpopper 4.0.5

2. Running Solaris 5.9 on a Sun Netra

3. Have set up the following in the ifconfig.

 le0 hostname.xxx.yyy.edu 
 le0:1 mailhost.xxx.yyy.edu
 le0:2 pophost.xxx.yyy.edu

Problem:

I can "telnet pophost.xxx.yyy.edu 110" and connect to the pophost and go
through the test pop login. This connects and shows messages with the list
command.

If I use pophost.xxx.yyy.edu as the incoming server name in a mail reader,
such as exchange, it will not make a connection. I do not even see any debug
info in the log files. If I use hostname.xxx.yyy.edu in the mail reader it
will work just fine. 

I can ping, telnet into, and  nslookup on the virutal IP address so I
believe they are set up correctly  working correctly 

What would cause the virutal IP address not to work and the real IP to work
in a mail reader. It seems like it is getting confuse in the sending and
receiving of packets when it goes to the virtual IP address.
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The Little Prince | 5 Jun 2003 22:22

Re: Proble with qpopper and virtual IP addresses

On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, McGraw, Robert P. wrote:
> 
> If I use pophost.xxx.yyy.edu as the incoming server name in a mail reader,
> such as exchange, it will not make a connection. I do not even see any debug

exchange is a mail server, not a mail reader.
outlook is a mail reader.

> 
> I can ping, telnet into, and  nslookup on the virutal IP address so I
> believe they are set up correctly  working correctly 

the same ip/host that's configured in your mail reader?

you can telnet into the ip/host on port 110 from the SAME machine that 
the mail reader is on?

--Tony
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Anthony J. Biacco                            Network Administrator/Engineer
thelittleprince <at> asteroid-b612.org              http://www.asteroid-b612.org

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Kenneth Porter | 5 Jun 2003 22:55

Re: Proble with qpopper and virtual IP addresses

--On Thursday, June 05, 2003 1:22 PM -0700 The Little Prince
<thelittleprince <at> asteroid-b612.org> wrote:

> exchange is a mail server, not a mail reader.

Not entirely true. Exchange can "pull" mail from a POP3 server not unlike
fetchmail.
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Alan Brown | 5 Jun 2003 23:25

Re: Proble with qpopper and virtual IP addresses

On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Kenneth Porter wrote:

> > exchange is a mail server, not a mail reader.
>
> Not entirely true. Exchange can "pull" mail from a POP3 server not unlike
> fetchmail.

Not only that, it's the preferred method for incompetent "expert
consultants" setting up dialup boxes, as they seem to think that ETRN is
too hard.

I'll leave to your imaginations the horrors of what happens when
messages come into the POP box with multiple recipients in the Bcc lines
and no To: entry matching the domain of the Exchange server, after the
messages get to the Exchange box.
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Chuck Yerkes | 6 Jun 2003 01:04

Re: POP Administration Utilities to deal with mailbox size

Quoting Paul Carpenter (paul <at> dodgenet.com):
> The Exim MTA has the ability to limit mailbox sizes.  
> 
> The garbmail program can scan a POP mailbox and delete mail that is 
> older than a specified age.

Is that MTA based or a script?

Perl also has mailbox managing tools.
You might just roll your own.

> 
> On Friday 30 May 2003 11:21 am, Jeremy Fitz wrote:
> > Hi:
> >
> > Does anyone know of any tools or strategies to deal with POP mailboxes?
> > Specifically, I'm looking to contstrain the maximum size of a user's
> > mailbox, however other tools might include patching Qpopper to force
> > "Delete From Server", etc.
> >
> > Just wondering wether there's a toolbox for POP Mailbox Admins.
> >
> > Thanks
> > j
> 
> -- 
> Paul Carpenter
> paul <at> dodgenet.com
> DodgeNet, Inc.
>
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The Little Prince | 6 Jun 2003 01:05

Re: Proble with qpopper and virtual IP addresses

On Thu, 5 Jun 2003, Kenneth Porter wrote:

> --On Thursday, June 05, 2003 1:22 PM -0700 The Little Prince
> <thelittleprince <at> asteroid-b612.org> wrote:
> 
> > exchange is a mail server, not a mail reader.
> 
> Not entirely true. Exchange can "pull" mail from a POP3 server not unlike
> fetchmail.
> 

yeah, but wouldn't that make it a puller or fetcher then? :-)

--Tony
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Anthony J. Biacco                            Network Administrator/Engineer
thelittleprince <at> asteroid-b612.org              http://www.asteroid-b612.org

       "You find magic from your god, and I find magic everywhere" 
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McGraw, Robert P. | 6 Jun 2003 15:34
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NEWQUESTION - Problem with qpopper and virtual IP addresses

Below is the original message about having problems with virtual IP
addresses

Anthony J. Biacco (thelittleprince)  responded asking if I could telnet from
the same machine that I was having outlook problems and I responded with

	You did hit on something that I did not think about.  When I telnet
to the pophost I am doing it from another UNIX hosts, yet the Outlook
problem is on a WinXP laptop that I use for my desktop. So I started a cmd
window and tried to telnet from my Window workstation to pophost and it does
not work. My mind was tunneled in thinking it was the pophost side and not
the exchange side. As a matter of fact I fixed a persons Netscape mail,
which runs on a UNIX system, and he was able to read his email using
pophost. 

	When I "telnet pophost.xxx.yyy.edu 110" from my PC WinXP laptop
which has a static IP address, it just hangs just like it does in Outlook.

	I can "ping pophost" from my PC WinXP laptop and it works just fine.
I can also do nslookup on names and I get back the correct info.

	SO HUMMMM. Any ideas what would cause this.

	Thanks againg for your help. That is why I like groups. Sometime you
get stuck looking at the problem one way and others see it another way.

SOOOO now the question is what would keep my PC WinXP laptop from not being
able to telnet into pophost.xxx.yyy.edu

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The Little Prince | 6 Jun 2003 15:47

Re: NEWQUESTION - Problem with qpopper and virtual IP addresses

On Fri, 6 Jun 2003, McGraw, Robert P. wrote:

> 
> 	When I "telnet pophost.xxx.yyy.edu 110" from my PC WinXP laptop
> which has a static IP address, it just hangs just like it does in Outlook.
> 
> 	I can "ping pophost" from my PC WinXP laptop and it works just fine.
> I can also do nslookup on names and I get back the correct info.
> 
> 	SO HUMMMM. Any ideas what would cause this.
> 

sounds like a firewall blocking it, to me. Either on the laptop or on the 
through-gateway. router access-lists, xp ip security filters, norton, 
blackice defender, etc..
Might as well, also, try telnetting to the virtual ip (not the hostname) 
on 110. (yeah, i know the ping and nslookup worked for the hostname, but 
ya never know, and i never trust a forward DNS resolution for debugging).

--Tony
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Anthony J. Biacco                            Network Administrator/Engineer
thelittleprince <at> asteroid-b612.org              http://www.asteroid-b612.org

       "You find magic from your god, and I find magic everywhere" 
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> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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