RE: pop3 trouble during install
From: Derek Whitten [mailto:derek@...]
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: [qmr] pop3 trouble during install
> -----Original Message-----
> From: marlowe [mailto:marlowe@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 2:25 PM
> To: qmr@...
> Subject: Re: [qmr] pop3 trouble during install
> D wrote:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jason Scheffler [mailto:jscheffler@...]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:38 PM
>>> To: qmr@...
>>> Subject: Re: [qmr] pop3 trouble during install
>>> D wrote:
>>>> I see. Well, thank you very much for this great piece of wisdom.
>>> When you're done pouting D you should read this url:
>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and then ask your
>>> question again and this time don't hide information. Help us help you.
>>> Pouting? Well, I thank you guys for the great amount of help I've
>>> here. The only info I've removed was the actual fqdn, which doesn't
>>> much for the problem at hand.
> Really, how do you know it doesn't matter for the problem at hand? I
> was under the delusion you didn't know the answer to your question. Ah,
> I got, you were simply testing us.
> As for why obscuring DNS information is bad, take a read of this
> By hiding your DNS information, you prevented us from being able to
> conduct any remote troubleshooting. While you may think why does it
> matter if I change the script to protect the guilty, you may have edited
> out the source of the problem. However we will never know.
>>> I've found a solution, but trying QMR out turned out to be too much of a
>>> disappointment, especially because of the treatment I've received here.
> I will bury my desire to paraphrase mtnbkr's IRC signing about MS not
> being the answer, it being the question in the answer is no. Please
> explain to me how you were badly treated. You asked a poorly worded
> question and several people suggested ways to you in which you might ask
> your question again in the hopes of gaining an answer. God, such cruel
> people, trying to teach you something, how dare they?
> I get what is going on, you were under the impression that you had paid
> us, so you expected us to read your mind. My apologies, I didn't
> receive the memo or your check. Maybe you could resend them. If you
> think this list is cruel, wait til you move into the real world of
> mailing lists. This list is exceptionally mild. I highly recommend
> Attrition's Going Postal for a view of real abuse.
>>> You keep on having your snobbish fun guys, but I'm moving back to
> To quote Alan Alda as Hawkeye Pierce,
> "The instrument has yet to invented that can measure my indifference to
> that remark"
I could go into explaining why and how I did whatever I did. I could also go
into giving examples of how help and support is being provided in other
places and communities.
But seriously, there is no point in continuing this conversation - I've seen
what this mailing list is like, and I see no point in staying. Especially
when there are much friendlier communities out there.
I suppose you were following qmailrocks too weren't ya? It is no secret
qmailrocks site is OLD, OUTDATED and a good amount of info on that site is
Yes, of course I was following the QMR guide. When one of the steps didn't
work, I looked it up on the forums, and after not finding anything, I posted
the question here.
Everything is working now, thanks to opennet.ru and howtoforge.com, but QMR
isn't an option anymore, at least not for me.