D | 2 May 08:54 2007
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Re: pop3 trouble during install

>> Hello everyone

>>

>> 

>>

>> I got as far as part11 in the install guide. When I try to run "telnet

>> localhost 110" I get an error message and get thrown out of the telnet

>> dialogue.

>>

>> It looks like so:

>>

>> -ERR usage: popup hostname subprogram

>>

>> Connection to host lost.

>>

>>

>> I'm using CentOS5, going through the QMR for RedHat installation.

 

> Can you provide for us the contents of

>

 

> /var/qmail/supervise/qmail-pop3d/run

>

 

> thanks

 

#!/bin/sh

PATH=/var/qmail/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin

export PATH

exec tcpserver -H -R -v -c100 0 110 qmail-popup mail.mymail.com #changed the hostname here

\

/home/vpopmail/bin/vchkpw qmail-pop3d Maildir 2>&1

 

 

D | 2 May 11:23 2007
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RE: Re[2]: pop3 trouble during install

Funny. I'm laughing

Any SERIOUS suggestions please?

-----Original Message-----
From: Niamh Holding [mailto:qmr@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 9:06 AM
To: qmr@...
Subject: Re[2]: [qmr] pop3 trouble during install

Hello D,

Wednesday, May 2, 2007, 7:54:14 AM, you wrote:

D> #changed the hostname here

Well done!

--

-- 
Best regards,
 Niamh                            mailto:qmr@...

D | 2 May 12:57 2007
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RE: Re[4]: pop3 trouble during install

I see. Well, thank you very much for this great piece of wisdom.

-----Original Message-----
From: Niamh Holding [mailto:qmr@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 11:20 AM
To: qmr@...
Subject: Re[4]: [qmr] pop3 trouble during install

Hello D,

Wednesday, May 2, 2007, 10:23:41 AM, you wrote:

D> Any SERIOUS suggestions please?

Don't obfuscate.

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-- 
Best regards,
 Niamh                            mailto:qmr@...

D | 2 May 14:48 2007
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RE: pop3 trouble during install


-----Original Message-----
From: Jason Scheffler [mailto:jscheffler@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:38 PM
To: qmr@...
Subject: Re: [qmr] pop3 trouble during install

D wrote:
> I see. Well, thank you very much for this great piece of wisdom.
> 

When you're done pouting D you should read this url:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and then ask your
question again and this time don't hide information. Help us help you.

Pouting? Well, I thank you guys for the great amount of help I've received
here. The only info I've removed was the actual fqdn, which doesn't matter
much for the problem at hand. 
I've found a solution, but trying QMR out turned out to be too much of a
disappointment, especially because of the treatment I've received here. 
You keep on having your snobbish fun guys, but I'm moving back to postfix.

Cheers

D | 2 May 15:35 2007
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RE: pop3 trouble during install


-----Original Message-----
From: marlowe [mailto:marlowe@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 2:25 PM
To: qmr@...
Subject: Re: [qmr] pop3 trouble during install

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D wrote:
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jason Scheffler [mailto:jscheffler@...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:38 PM
> To: qmr@...
> Subject: Re: [qmr] pop3 trouble during install
> 
> D wrote:
>> I see. Well, thank you very much for this great piece of wisdom.
>>
> 
> 
> When you're done pouting D you should read this url:
> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and then ask your
> question again and this time don't hide information. Help us help you.
> 
> 
> Pouting? Well, I thank you guys for the great amount of help I've received
> here. The only info I've removed was the actual fqdn, which doesn't matter
> much for the problem at hand. 

Really, how do you know it doesn't matter for the problem at hand?  I
was under the delusion you didn't know the answer to your question.  Ah,
I got, you were simply testing us.

As for why obscuring DNS information is bad, take a read of this

http://homepages.tesco.net/J.deBoynePollard/FGA/dont-obscure-your-dns-data.h
tml

By hiding your DNS information, you prevented us from being able to
conduct any remote troubleshooting.  While you may think why does it
matter if I change the script to protect the guilty, you may have edited
out the source of the problem.  However we will never know.

> I've found a solution, but trying QMR out turned out to be too much of a
> disappointment, especially because of the treatment I've received here. 

I will bury my desire to paraphrase mtnbkr's IRC signing about MS not
being the answer, it being the question in the answer is no.  Please
explain to me how you were badly treated.  You asked a poorly worded
question and several people suggested ways to you in which you might ask
your question again in the hopes of gaining an answer.  God, such cruel
people, trying to teach you something, how dare they?

I get what is going on, you were under the impression that you had paid
us, so you expected us to read your mind.  My apologies, I didn't
receive the memo or your check.  Maybe you could resend them.  If you
think this list is cruel, wait til you move into the real world of
mailing lists.  This list is exceptionally mild.  I highly recommend
Attrition's Going Postal for a view of real abuse.

> You keep on having your snobbish fun guys, but I'm moving back to postfix.

To quote Alan Alda as Hawkeye Pierce,

"The instrument has yet to invented that can measure my indifference to
that remark"

Patrick
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I could go into explaining why and how I did whatever I did. I could also go
into giving examples of how help and support is being provided in other
places and communities.
But seriously, there is no point in continuing this conversation - I've seen
what this mailing list is like, and I see no point in staying. Especially
when there are much friendlier communities out there.

Cheers.

D | 2 May 17:03 2007
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RE: pop3 trouble during install


-----Original Message-----
From: Derek Whitten [mailto:derek@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 3:52 PM
To: qmr@...
Subject: Re: [qmr] pop3 trouble during install

D wrote:
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: marlowe [mailto:marlowe@...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 2:25 PM
> To: qmr@...
> Subject: Re: [qmr] pop3 trouble during install
> 
> D wrote:
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jason Scheffler [mailto:jscheffler@...] 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2007 1:38 PM
>>> To: qmr@...
>>> Subject: Re: [qmr] pop3 trouble during install
>>>
>>> D wrote:
>>>> I see. Well, thank you very much for this great piece of wisdom.
>>>>
>>>
>>> When you're done pouting D you should read this url:
>>> http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and then ask your
>>> question again and this time don't hide information. Help us help you.
>>>
>>>
>>> Pouting? Well, I thank you guys for the great amount of help I've
received
>>> here. The only info I've removed was the actual fqdn, which doesn't
matter
>>> much for the problem at hand. 
> 
> Really, how do you know it doesn't matter for the problem at hand?  I
> was under the delusion you didn't know the answer to your question.  Ah,
> I got, you were simply testing us.
> 
> As for why obscuring DNS information is bad, take a read of this
> 
>
http://homepages.tesco.net/J.deBoynePollard/FGA/dont-obscure-your-dns-data.h
> tml
> 
> By hiding your DNS information, you prevented us from being able to
> conduct any remote troubleshooting.  While you may think why does it
> matter if I change the script to protect the guilty, you may have edited
> out the source of the problem.  However we will never know.
> 
>>> I've found a solution, but trying QMR out turned out to be too much of a
>>> disappointment, especially because of the treatment I've received here. 
> 
> I will bury my desire to paraphrase mtnbkr's IRC signing about MS not
> being the answer, it being the question in the answer is no.  Please
> explain to me how you were badly treated.  You asked a poorly worded
> question and several people suggested ways to you in which you might ask
> your question again in the hopes of gaining an answer.  God, such cruel
> people, trying to teach you something, how dare they?
> 
> I get what is going on, you were under the impression that you had paid
> us, so you expected us to read your mind.  My apologies, I didn't
> receive the memo or your check.  Maybe you could resend them.  If you
> think this list is cruel, wait til you move into the real world of
> mailing lists.  This list is exceptionally mild.  I highly recommend
> Attrition's Going Postal for a view of real abuse.
> 
>>> You keep on having your snobbish fun guys, but I'm moving back to
postfix.
> 
> To quote Alan Alda as Hawkeye Pierce,
> 
> "The instrument has yet to invented that can measure my indifference to
> that remark"
> 
> Patrick

I could go into explaining why and how I did whatever I did. I could also go
into giving examples of how help and support is being provided in other
places and communities.
But seriously, there is no point in continuing this conversation - I've seen
what this mailing list is like, and I see no point in staying. Especially
when there are much friendlier communities out there.

Cheers.

I suppose you were following qmailrocks too weren't ya?  It is no secret
that the
qmailrocks site is OLD, OUTDATED and a good amount of info on that site is
just WRONG.

Yes, of course I was following the QMR guide. When one of the steps didn't
work, I looked it up on the forums, and after not finding anything, I posted
the question here. 

Everything is working now, thanks to opennet.ru and howtoforge.com, but QMR
isn't an option anymore, at least not for me.


Gmane