John Levine | 1 Jun 03:13 2009

Re: Autoreply best way

>What is the best to auto-reply without increasing spam ? 
>- Don't do auto-reply at all ?

In my experience, the majority of auto-replies are useless.  A message
saying I'm not going to get a response is not noticably more informative
than no response.  

>- Carefully detect incoming spam and reject delivery (and so autoreply) ?

In addition to spam filtering, there's a bunch of well known
heuristics specific to autoresponders that greatly reduce the amount
of blowback.  The most important are to reply only when the
recipient's address is on the To: line, and to send a response to any
particular address no more than about once a week.

R's,
John

PS: At some point I want to set up a web site called
come-rob-my-house.com where I post all of the random out-of-office
replies I get.

Kulkarni Shantanu | 1 Jun 08:49 2009

Re: rblsmtpd & qq[solved]

* Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh <mohsen <at> pahlevanzadeh.org> [090601 12:09]:
> Dear Markus,
> Thank you, you solved my problem.Bu i have a question: Where can i find
> rbl sources?

Your questions are not clear, but this might be of help.
http://www.dnsbl.com/

I have written,
http://www.shantanukulkarni.org/rbl-compare.html
about rbls I use.

Shantanu
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Kulkarni Shantanu | 1 Jun 10:34 2009

Re: creating high traffic

* Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh <mohsen <at> pahlevanzadeh.org> [090601 13:48]:
> Dear all,
> Where does rblsmtpd cached lists? 
> If it read from -r everytime that run is run, it create a high volume
> traffic.

Install a local rbl server like rbldns. See,
http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/rbldns.html

> I confused.......

And you will be if you don't read the docs. Do yourself a favour, read,
re-read and re-read "Life with qmail" at
http://lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html

Do some homework or if you are lazy or don't have time, hire a
consultant. List of consultants is at, 
http://www.qmail.org/top.html#paidsup

Do also read,
http://pyropus.ca/personal/writings/12-steps-to-qmail-list-bliss.html
especially points - 1,3,4,5,6,7,10.

Shantanu
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Gary L Burnore | 1 Jun 14:07 2009

RE: rblsmtpd & qq[solved]


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh [mailto:mohsen <at> pahlevanzadeh.org]
> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2009 2:34 PM
> To: Markus Stumpf
> Cc: qmail <at> list.cr.yp.to
> Subject: Re: rblsmtpd & qq[solved]
> 
> Dear Markus,
> Thank you, you solved my problem.

He solved one of your problems. I agree with him that you have others you'll
need to address. Re-read his post for most of them and then the List rules
for two others:  Do not top post.  Do not quote the entire article to which
you're replying.

Gary L. Burnore
gburnore <at> databasix.com

Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh | 1 Jun 02:22 2009

Re: creating high traffic

Dear Kulkarni,
I have a server under load.I installed it 2 years ago & according to my
remembering, i don't remember that lwq writes anything on "caching" in
rblsmtpd.
Yours,
Mohsen
On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 14:04 +0530, Kulkarni Shantanu wrote:
> * Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh <mohsen <at> pahlevanzadeh.org> [090601 13:48]:
> > Dear all,
> > Where does rblsmtpd cached lists? 
> > If it read from -r everytime that run is run, it create a high volume
> > traffic.
> 
> Install a local rbl server like rbldns. See,
> http://cr.yp.to/djbdns/rbldns.html
> 
> > I confused.......
> 
> And you will be if you don't read the docs. Do yourself a favour, read,
> re-read and re-read "Life with qmail" at
> http://lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html
> 
> Do some homework or if you are lazy or don't have time, hire a
> consultant. List of consultants is at, 
> http://www.qmail.org/top.html#paidsup
> 
> Do also read,
> http://pyropus.ca/personal/writings/12-steps-to-qmail-list-bliss.html
> especially points - 1,3,4,5,6,7,10.
> 
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Oliver Welter | 1 Jun 15:33 2009
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Monitor progress of ezmlm list


Hi All,

I hope this is not to much OT...
I am running an ezmlm managed list with about 12k users.
I wonder if there is a trick to monitor how many messages already have
been put into the qmail-queue. Besides - is there a possibility to
interfere with the delivery on the ezmlm side, namely stop the delivery
of unprocesed messages?

The background: Today a customer called me to stop the delivery because
he notice a mistake in his mail and wanted to know how many people
already got the wrong information.

best regards

Oliver

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Charles Cazabon | 1 Jun 17:42 2009
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Re: Monitor progress of ezmlm list

Oliver Welter <mail <at> oliwel.de> wrote:
> 
> I hope this is not to much OT...

Well, there's a separate list for ezmlm, but this is somewhat qmail-related.

> I am running an ezmlm managed list with about 12k users.
> I wonder if there is a trick to monitor how many messages already have
> been put into the qmail-queue.

qmail-qstat and qmail-qread will give you all the information you could want.
Note that with standard ezmlm and qmail, you're probably talking about (in this circumstance) *one*
message, with 12000 recipients, not 12000 messages.

> Besides - is there a possibility to interfere with the delivery on the ezmlm
> side, namely stop the delivery of unprocesed messages?

It's non-trivial, but not spectacularly difficult.  You have to shut
qmail-send down (cleanly), and remove the message from the queue (possibly
with a helper program), then restart qmail-send.  It shouldn't be something
you're doing on a regular basis; needing to do it once is a lesson for your
customer to either double-check their messages before sending, or enable
moderation on the list so that they have to read and approve their own
postings to the list, giving them an opportunity to catch errors.

Charles
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Kyle Wheeler | 1 Jun 17:08 2009
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Re: creating high traffic


On Monday, June  1 at 12:43 AM, quoth Mohsen Pahlevanzadeh:
>Where does rblsmtpd cached lists?

rblsmtpd does not "cache lists". It merely queries the DNS server. 
Your DNS server should cache things.

>If it read from -r everytime that run is run, it create a high volume
>traffic.

No, reading from -r every time rblsmtpd is run does NOT create high 
volumes of traffic. If it queries every single blacklist (which it 
does) and if you have a lot of blacklists (which it appears that you 
do), that will create a lot of DNS queries. However, if you have a 
caching DNS server (you should), that should reduce the amount of 
traffic generated.

Generally, though, it is a very bad idea to use a lot of remote 
blacklists. People who run large email servers either do not use such 
blacklists OR they periodically create local copies of those 
blacklists (not all blacklists allow you to create a local copy).

If you are having problems, however, it is probably because you are 
querying several blacklists that no longer exist. Checking 
non-existent blacklists takes quite a while because your server has to 
wait for each request to a non-existent blacklists to time out.

~Kyle
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John Jones | 3 Jun 01:23 2009

Qmail-pop3d authentication problem

Hi

   I have been running qmail for several years. Recently, I had to bring up a hot backup server after a mail server crashed. The admin I put on this did NOT do a full job of installing qmail and I have had nothing but headaches re-tracing her steps. Anyway, I have the basic install of qmail up and running (it is sending and receiving emails). The trouble comes in with Qmail-pop3d. It is failing to authenticate from remote connections using user accounts and passwords I KNOW exist. I am using Maildir format. Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks
JJ

Here is a local test of qmail-popup....
 
# ./qmail-popup /bin/checkpassword id
+OK <7154.1243953583 <at> /bin/checkpassword>
user
********
+OK
pass ************
uid
=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root),1(bin),2(daemon),3(sys),4(adm),6(disk),10(wheel)
[root <at> ?????? bin]#
 
Here is the contents of /var/qmail/supervise/qmil-pop3d/run file
#!/bin/sh
exec /usr/local/bin/softlimit -m 5000000 /usr/local/bin/tcpserver -v -R -H -l 0 0 110 /var/qmail/bin/qmail-popup ??????.?????.com /bin/checkpassword /var/qmail/bin/qmail-pop3d Maildir 2>&1
 
Ownership of /bin/checkpassword
 
-rwx------   1 root root  14496 May  3 18:15 checkpassword
 
Contents of /var/log/qmail/pop3d/current
 
<at> 400000004a23d0aa36065c44 tcpserver
: status: 0/40
<at> 400000004a23d0c82b4dda84 tcpserver
: status: 1/40
<at> 400000004a23d0c82b4f9bbc tcpserver
: pid 2204 from 24.229.11.254
<at> 400000004a23d0c82b4fca9c tcpserver
: ok 2204 0:64.34.95.49:110 :24.229.11.254::39066
<at> 400000004a23d0d5148b162c tcpserver
: end 2204 status 256
<at> 400000004a23d0d5148b1a14 tcpserver
: status: 0/40
<at> 400000004a23d66c21ad50a4 tcpserver
: status: 1/40
<at> 400000004a23d66c21af63e4 tcpserver
: pid 2312 from 24.229.11.254
<at> 400000004a23d66c21af9a94 tcpserver
: ok 2312 0:64.34.95.49:110 :24.229.11.254::44751
<at> 400000004a23d67809e9123c tcpserver
: end 2312 status 256
<at> 400000004a23d67809e91a0c tcpserver
: status: 0/40
<at> 400000004a244a6f3781f40c tcpserver
: status: 1/40
<at> 400000004a244a6f3783e424 tcpserver
: pid 4287 from 24.229.11.254
<at> 400000004a244a6f37841304 tcpserver
: ok 4287 0:64.34.95.49:110 :24.229.11.254::43634
<at> 400000004a244a700b545654 tcpserver
: end 4287 status 256
<at> 400000004a244a700b545a3c tcpserver
: status: 0/40
<at> 400000004a25223e0cb60164 tcpserver
: status: 1/40
<at> 400000004a25223e0cb7ed94 tcpserver
: pid 6773 from 24.229.11.254
<at> 400000004a25223e0cb8205c tcpserver
: ok 6773 0:64.34.95.49:110 :24.229.11.254::44882
<at> 400000004a25224f2b1fd544 tcpserver
: end 6773 status 256
<at> 400000004a25224f2b1fdd14 tcpserver
: status: 0/40
<at> 400000004a25225408aa681c tcpserver
: status: 1/40
<at> 400000004a25225408ac2954 tcpserver
: pid 6782 from 24.229.11.254
<at> 400000004a25225408ac5834 tcpserver
: ok 6782 0:64.34.95.49:110 :24.229.11.254::46376
<at> 400000004a25226c11abdf54 tcpserver
: end 6782 status 256
<at> 400000004a25226c11abe724 tcpserver
: status: 0/40
Markus Stumpf | 3 Jun 16:17 2009
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Re: Qmail-pop3d authentication problem

On Tue, Jun 02, 2009 at 07:23:43PM -0400, John Jones wrote:
> # ./qmail-popup /bin/checkpassword id
> +OK <7154.1243953583 <at> /bin/checkpassword>

you've got the command line wrong. It should read:

# ./qmail-popup example.com /bin/checkpassword id

Please try again and see if you get any errors.
All else looks correct at first glance.

	\Maex


Gmane