Jon Steinhart | 1 Sep 2005 20:28

nmh release

Hi.  Things have been pretty quiet since I signed up to get a release out
a while back.  Sorry 'bout that; got pretty sick for a while.  I'm on the
mend and so it's time to get back to it.  I'm going to be away until the
middle of September so I'd like to aim for a trial release by the end of
the month, and a final release after we've all had a chance to use it.

It's my opinion that this release should tie up any loose ends so that
there's a usable release out there that is better than 1.0.4.  This
release should be the last in the 1. line.  After this, we should start
a 2. series that incorporates oft-discussed code base improvements.  The
2. series should be the home for new features.

So, the question for now is, are there any outstanding critical issues for
a final 1. release?  I'm asking about major problems that a lot of people
would notice and would keep a release from being usable.  I'm not
particularly interested in minor issues unless someone is willing to
provide a fix.

I'm sure that y'all will let me know whether or not you agree with above
and we'll go from there.  Please let's try to stay focused on the topic.

Jon

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r help | 1 Sep 2005 01:31
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on ubuntu/postfix nmh comp fails

hi

i installed the ubuntu nmh package but when i try to
'comp' an email
message, i get the error

post: problem initializing server; [BHST] premature
end-of-file on pipe
send: message not delivered to anyone

which i dont understand.  mailx works fine in sending
emails.

any help would be appreciated.

-gong

		
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Albert Bertram | 2 Sep 2005 16:34
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Re: nmh release

There is a minor issue involving sending mail bcc when using sasl 
authentication which is fixed by patch #3913.  I think should be it should 
integrated.  We've been using this patch on our production interactive 
servers here at the University of Michigan, and have had no problems 
because of it; rather it does fix the problem of being unable to send 
messages bcc when authenticating to the smtp server.

Any chance we could get the patch into this next release?

Albert

On Thu, 1 Sep 2005, Jon Steinhart wrote:

> Hi.  Things have been pretty quiet since I signed up to get a release out
> a while back.  Sorry 'bout that; got pretty sick for a while.  I'm on the
> mend and so it's time to get back to it.  I'm going to be away until the
> middle of September so I'd like to aim for a trial release by the end of
> the month, and a final release after we've all had a chance to use it.
>
> It's my opinion that this release should tie up any loose ends so that
> there's a usable release out there that is better than 1.0.4.  This
> release should be the last in the 1. line.  After this, we should start
> a 2. series that incorporates oft-discussed code base improvements.  The
> 2. series should be the home for new features.
>
> So, the question for now is, are there any outstanding critical issues for
> a final 1. release?  I'm asking about major problems that a lot of people
> would notice and would keep a release from being usable.  I'm not
> particularly interested in minor issues unless someone is willing to
> provide a fix.
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Paul Fox | 26 Sep 2005 15:36
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mime-aware repl'ying


does anyone have a trick (via .mh_profile, mhl.reply, or
alternate draft edit script) to cause replies to messages which
contain multiple mime parts to only include and quote the first
plaintext part?  i'm sure we've all been frustrated when someone
sends some text and an attached image, and repl gives a draft
that consists of many megabytes of quoted b64encoded gobbledygook.

my plan if no one has another suggestion is to create a draft
edit script which notices that the original message has mime parts,
and have it then reconstruct a new draft (in place of the old one)
containing just the header and the  quoted part i want.

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Oliver Kiddle | 26 Sep 2005 17:50
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Re: mime-aware repl'ying

Paul Fox wrote:
>  
> does anyone have a trick (via .mh_profile, mhl.reply, or
> alternate draft edit script) to cause replies to messages which
> contain multiple mime parts to only include and quote the first
> plaintext part?  i'm sure we've all been frustrated when someone

I've got a trick which sort-of does that.

I have `-editor zprompter' in .mh_profile for repl. zprompter is a zsh
script I've written that is a bit like prompter. Among other things, it
does:
  exec 3>$1
  ...
  if [[ -n $editalt ]]; then
    mhshow -part 1 -form mhl.null -file $editalt | sed -e '1 d' -e 's/^/> /' >&3
  fi

`-part 1' is not perfect. It doesn't even limit things to plain text
but it works with HTML too given the right filters to pass to pass HTML
through lynx -dump. There was also a patch I posted last December that
you'd you want to apply (or get nmh from CVS).

Oliver

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Paul Fox | 26 Sep 2005 22:19
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Re: mime-aware repl'ying


 > I have `-editor zprompter' in .mh_profile for repl. zprompter is a zsh
 > script I've written that is a bit like prompter. Among other things, it
 > does:
 >   exec 3>$1
 >   ...
 >   if [[ -n $editalt ]]; then
 >     mhshow -part 1 -form mhl.null -file $editalt | sed -e '1 d' -e 's/^/> /' >&3
 >   fi

thanks.  given this start, and some ideas from the mhonarc script
mha-mhedit (which does a more complete job of text extraction), i
came up with the following.  add it as "repl:  -edit
mh.repledit".  make sure that your replcomps file ends in a blank
line to make extracting the header part of the draft easy.  also,
be sure and include a new "mh.repledit-next:  vi" or whatever
line in .mh_profile, to keep this from being run twice on your
message.

cat >mh.repledit <<EOF
#!/bin/sh

SIGFILE=$HOME/.signature
DRAFT=$1
CURRENT=$(mhpath cur)

# if the message being replied to is multipart, only quote the
# first part.  the first part will be quoted, regardless of its type.
if [ "$(sed  -e '/^$/,$d' $CURRENT |
	egrep -i '^content-type:[[:space:]]*multipart\/mixed' )" ]
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chewie | 27 Sep 2005 00:31

Re: mime-aware repl'ying

Paul wrote:
> if [ "$(sed  -e '/^$/,$d' $CURRENT |
> 	egrep -i '^content-type:[[:space:]]*multipart\/mixed' )" ]

This should be '...(mixed|alternative)'

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Paul Fox | 27 Sep 2005 00:45
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Re: mime-aware repl'ying

 > Paul wrote:
 > > if [ "$(sed  -e '/^$/,$d' $CURRENT |
 > > 	egrep -i '^content-type:[[:space:]]*multipart\/mixed' )" ]
 > 
 > This should be '...(mixed|alternative)'
 > 

yes.  and i think the "mhshow -part 1" should be (for my
purposes) "mhshow -type text/plain", since that's usually what i
want, and it will pick up the text even if it's not part 1. 

and the "sed -e '1,2d'" is because of the mshow profile entry i
have for text parts -- you might want to delete that sed
altogether, or maybe have it delete one line.

thanks for your suggestions -- i'm sure i'll be tweaking this
script for years to come.  :-)

paul
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Jon Steinhart | 27 Sep 2005 18:55

nmh 1.1 release candidate 4

I've built a new release candidate from the CVS and uploaded it to savannah.
Please give it a try.  I'll give it a few weeks and if there are no complaints
I'll make it an official 1.1 release.

Jon

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Josh Bressers | 27 Sep 2005 19:48
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Re: nmh 1.1 release candidate 4

> I've built a new release candidate from the CVS and uploaded it to savannah.
> Please give it a try.  I'll give it a few weeks and if there are no complaints
> I'll make it an official 1.1 release.

Might I suggest we call it 1.2 to avoid confusion.  As this archive.org
page points out, there is a 1.1 tarball floating around:
http://web.archive.org/web/20041025220226/http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/nmh/

I have used the nmh-1.1.tar.gz to create the Fedora Core nmh packages, so
having a new nmh tarball with the same version is going to cause some pain
for any packagers who have used that source.

Thanks for the update, I look forward to it.

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